I drive an automatic Man truck that has just been fitted out with telematics by Data Driven Logistics. This measures numerous parameters ie over speed, greenband driving, cruise control etc. All readings good (A grade) apart from 1. Under the heading Torque, I am getting (along with the other drivers) G’s, which apparently, is the lowest grade there is. I have no idea what this is, and how it can be improved. When I asked about this, I was told that this is…
" % of events where torque usage is more than 92% of that available"
Don’t believe so as we are told to drive it in “automatic” mode with the cruise control as the truck manufacturer is far more knowledgeable about the settings for the automatic gearbox than a lowly truck driver…!!!
Can’t wait for the absolute definition of this, and the explanation of quite how your supposed to attain correct torque or revs used with the Arsetronic Gearbox of Doom unless you drive it manually.
That’s it, bottle opened, popcorn on the hob, patiently waiting.
shirts:
Don’t believe so as there is a section called “over reving” which shows an A…
" % of events where RPM is greater than 1700 "
Over revving would be a too low gear, not too high, but as it’s an auto I don’t know what you can do about being in the wrong gear except use a manual mode and I bet that’s not allowed by the telemetrics.
shirts:
Don’t believe so as there is a section called “over reving” which shows an A…
" % of events where RPM is greater than 1700 "
Over revving would be a too low gear, not too high, but as it’s an auto I don’t know what you can do about being in the wrong gear except use a manual mode and I bet that’s not allowed by the telemetrics.
My mistake…got it ■■■ about face…You are correct in that that is also measured…
shirts:
Don’t believe so as there is a section called “over reving” which shows an A…
" % of events where RPM is greater than 1700 "
Over revving would be a too low gear, not too high, but as it’s an auto I don’t know what you can do about being in the wrong gear except use a manual mode and I bet that’s not allowed by the telemetrics.
That’s what I said…
If the op uses exhaust brake/retarder a lot (the correct method I might add) than this makes the engine rev higher…maybe the telematics isn’t picking this up? I know we had problems when ours were first installed with a similar issue.
Thinking about it, over 92% of available torque would be using full engine power instead of using the throttle gently to increase speed.
One of our lads has mates driving at his old place with this type of ■■■■■■■■, and they’ve been phoned before now during the shift to ask why they accelerated so fast away from xxwhateverxx, its complete and utter cobblers, the same company expect massive amounts of work done too whilst ticking all the telematics boxes and under a bullying attitude too hence why two of them are at our place already, presumably only those who already have their own magic wands need apply.
All this telematics being fitted to auto trucks is a load of crap! I really think we are now expected to concentrate more on saving a few quid on fuel than actually driving the bloody things! Trying to second guess whether the arescronic box is going to change gear at the correct moment is impossible. Give us proper trucks with proper manual gearboxes then test us I say!
I just don’t understand why they even need all this telematics crap! At the end of the day it’s surely to monitor fuel consumption which can be done for free and accurately with a calculator.
Personally I would either ask your company what it means or get them to ask the telemestrics company is they don’t know. Seems pointless having the system if nobody can interpret the results.
Then if it’s do to with gear selection ask how the hell you can be marked down for that in an Auto truck, you could even suggest they give you a manual truck at least then you’d deserve the blame for poor gear selection and you might even be able to do something to improve it.
Juddian:
Thinking about it, over 92% of available torque would be using full engine power instead of using the throttle gently to increase speed.
One of our lads has mates driving at his old place with this type of ■■■■■■■■, and they’ve been phoned before now during the shift to ask why they accelerated so fast away from xxwhateverxx, its complete and utter cobblers, the same company expect massive amounts of work done too whilst ticking all the telematics boxes and under a bullying attitude too hence why two of them are at our place already, presumably only those who already have their own magic wands need apply.
HA HA HA…Don’t you just love this…There is another section that says " harsh acceleration "
I know…
It’s when you put your foot to the floor ie pedal travel,what they want you to do is gently apply pressure to the “go” pedal at a slow and steady pressure and not just slamming your foot to the floor from stationary as this uses more fuel.
If you imagine the pedal with no pressure being applied is 0% and “foot to the floor” is 100% they want you keeping between 0% and 75% and not beyond.
nomiS36:
All this telematics being fitted to auto trucks is a load of crap!
Telemetrics and tracking doesn’t overly bother me, what does annoy me is companies who use it without understanding the environment their drivers are working in.
nomiS36:
I just don’t understand why they even need all this telematics crap! At the end of the day it’s surely to monitor fuel consumption which can be done for free and accurately with a calculator.
Until you get a driver that takes long routes to improve their mpg, and having been on both sides of the fence you’d be surprised how 2 different drivers on the same type of truck on same work can get very different results. This doesn’t just affect fuel consumption, but tyre wear, brakes, clutches and the whole longevity of the truck. But really management need to understand what the data means not take it at face value.
Too low. If we say gear x provides 1 to 100 y (units of torque, probably Nm), then for any gear X the driver is at 92y+ for t amount of time. By moving to gear x+1 the driver may be using 80y and gear x+2 60y.
My best attempt at an explanation. Don’t rev the ■■■■■■■■ off it drive.
nomiS36:
All this telematics being fitted to auto trucks is a load of crap!
Telemetrics and tracking doesn’t overly bother me, what does annoy me is companies who use it without understanding the environment their drivers are working in.
nomiS36:
I just don’t understand why they even need all this telematics crap! At the end of the day it’s surely to monitor fuel consumption which can be done for free and accurately with a calculator.
But really management need to understand what the data means not take it at face value.
Absolutely spot on, but i wouldn’t be holding me breath waiting for that to happen, unless you want to visit the cemetery and dig a few up who could, and they’d laugh their skeletal socks of at the utter balderdash of the whole thing and the sheer waste of money.
One size now fits all, this rubbish is here to stay, it keeps lots of people in non jobs selling this stuff and compiling data that means next to bugger all in the real world, but i suppose it gives lots of managers otherwise doing very little something to read.
As you rightly said, on its own its meaningless, i’ve known people who drive to get the fuel bonus triggered by these things yet their real fuel consumption can be among the worse in the fleet and the wear and tear on the lorry highest because they know not how to maintain progress sympathetically as a lorry driver should, and where the system penalises those who do the job properly.
