Pulled by VOSA

A new lorry parked beside me in a well weathered W reg Foden got the full works from Vosa: They said “morning” to me and left me alone. Driver of new motor was gobby to them and was whinging abiut "ignoring the bag of “■■■■” nextdoor. The bagofshit must’ve been a green light wagon.

davhems:
vosa have had powers to stop for a few years now and they also work on a traffic light system . so if your companys got a good annual test record and not had any probs at previous road checks it will come up green on there computer and they tend to just have a quick wander round.any new operator is automatically put on red until they prove there being good lads.

Yes, we are in the orange on both road worthiness and overall traffic score, nearly in the red on the one! Down to a few mot failures I think :frowning: but nearly in the green on the other.

NathanB:
A new lorry parked beside me in a well weathered W reg Foden got the full works from Vosa: They said “morning” to me and left me alone. Driver of new motor was gobby to them and was whinging abiut "ignoring the bag of “[zb]” nextdoor. The bagofshit must’ve been a green light wagon.

Thats it. Similar to plod, its not worth being a ■■■■■■■■■, will get you into alot of grief. Whats the point!

I’ve been told that usually get pulled for either vehicle checks or tacho checks, they can range from quick to full checks depending on the day, one day you’ll get an mot next day a 5 min walk round. Green light companies as they are known usually just have quick checks to keep you in the green. Also politeness does go a long way as Vosa in the last few months have apparently been told to educate where possible, oh and if you see Vosa looking at you as you drive by give them a friendly wave and put a smile on their face unless of course you have something to hide. :laughing: but if you look away as you pass they will wonder why. :smiling_imp:

Longman5978:
I’ve been told that usually get pulled for either vehicle checks or tacho checks, they can range from quick to full checks depending on the day, one day you’ll get an mot next day a 5 min walk round. Green light companies as they are known usually just have quick checks to keep you in the green. Also politeness does go a long way as Vosa in the last few months have apparently been told to educate where possible, oh and if you see Vosa looking at you as you drive by give them a friendly wave and put a smile on their face unless of course you have something to hide. :laughing: but if you look away as you pass they will wonder why. :smiling_imp:

Our gravel pit’s a public weighbridge and one day they were there when one of drivers asked them if they knew the layby they were sitting in was used by “slipperyfists!”

Longman5978:
oh and if you see Vosa looking at you as you drive by give them the bird and put a smile on their face unless of course you have something to hide. :laughing: but if you look away as you pass they will wonder why. :smiling_imp:

FTFY :laughing:
Joking aside, would that not be construde as taking the ■■■■? (the wave i mean, not the bird :laughing: )

Or do what I done at Stafford, I was pulled for vehicle checks, as Mr Vosa come over i told him where to find all of the roadworthy defects that had been deemed safe down to the chunks missing off the tread of inner edge of tyres and also produced my walk round check sheet stating all of the noted damage, 2 bits he had even missed on a quick check, I was wished a good day! ( with a notice & no fine for the missing mudguard ripped off by the dreaded night drivers ) :slight_smile:

I’ve had the same pointless stops a few times with nothing but a few questions. It’s nothing to do with attitude, they are simply meeting their targets at the end of their shift but don’t want the hassle of finding a fault.

There is no other logical reason why they’d stop a N. Irish V8 Scania 4x2 pulling a fridge and not bother checking tachos or weight. :unamused:

Gembo:

Longman5978:
oh and if you see Vosa looking at you as you drive by give them the bird and put a smile on their face unless of course you have something to hide. :laughing: but if you look away as you pass they will wonder why. :smiling_imp:

FTFY :laughing:
Joking aside, would that not be construde as taking the ■■■■? (the wave i mean, not the bird :laughing: )

I asked the same question to an ex Vosa officer and he said believe it or not it makes their day as most of the time by the time you get to them they already know if your coming in or not, I was worried about getting done for not having both hands on the steering wheel, lol. Being brave I tried it out a few weeks ago at Ross and it works, he waved back and was grinning like a Cheshire cat!

Longman.

Longman5978:
I asked the same question to an ex Vosa officer and he said believe it or not it makes their day as most of the time by the time you get to them they already know if your coming in or not, I was worried about getting done for not having both hands on the steering wheel, lol. Being brave I tried it out a few weeks ago at Ross and it works, he waved back and was grinning like a Cheshire cat!

Longman.

Cheers, Longman.

NathanB:
A new lorry parked beside me in a well weathered W reg Foden got the full works from Vosa: They said “morning” to me and left me alone. Driver of new motor was gobby to them and was whinging abiut "ignoring the bag of “[zb]” nextdoor. The bagofshit must’ve been a green light wagon.

Similar happened a few years ago. Vosa man was just finishing off checking my oldish unit when a nearly new motor came in to the side of me. The driver jumped out and started giving Vosa man some serious verbal diarrhoea at the top of his voice. I looked at my checker and said " He doesn’t look very happy". He replied “Don’t worry about it, he’s going to have a long time to calm down”. :wink:

Stan

Stanley Knife:

NathanB:
A new lorry parked beside me in a well weathered W reg Foden got the full works from Vosa: They said “morning” to me and left me alone. Driver of new motor was gobby to them and was whinging abiut "ignoring the bag of “[zb]” nextdoor. The bagofshit must’ve been a green light wagon.

Similar happened a few years ago. Vosa man was just finishing off checking my oldish unit when a nearly new motor came in to the side of me. The driver jumped out and started giving Vosa man some serious verbal diarrhoea at the top of his voice. I looked at my checker and said " He doesn’t look very happy". He replied “Don’t worry about it, he’s going to have a long time to calm down”. :wink:

Stan

proof it pays to keep the peace rather than stir the brown stuff!

Longman.

Longman5978:
proof it pays to keep the peace rather than stir the brown stuff!

Yep, I find that if I am polite and friendly towards VOSA, they normally don’t find my magnet. :wink:

Harry Monk:

Longman5978:
proof it pays to keep the peace rather than stir the brown stuff!

Yep, I find that if I am polite and friendly towards VOSA, they normally don’t find my magnet. :wink:

never checked my fuse box either. :wink:

Longman.

VOSA now do what is known as a “SIFT” Type stop this is copied verbatium from VOSA

A Sift is a visual assessment of the apparent condition of the vehicle. This assessment will involve a complete circuit of the vehicle and a visual inspection of readily accessible items without the need to involve the driver. However on occasions and under exceptional circumstances for example the time of day or weather conditions where one would expect certain equipment to be operational or switched on and they are not (e.g. headlamps, washers and wipers) the examiner will ask the driver to operate these, to ensure that they are operational and in good working order.

All VOSA vehicle examiner encounters are recorded electronically irrespective of check type or sift; this only applies to roadworthiness inspections not traffic enforcement functions.

If the vehicle is sifted no paperwork will be issued, if the vehicle is inspected and found to be clear then a PG35ECDN will be issued. If the driver assists in the inspection by operating brakes, rocking the steering etc that is deemed an inspection. Operators should instruct their drivers that if they undertake system operations they should request such documentation from the vehicle examiner. If this is not forthcoming then they should request the site manager and inform them that they have had their vehicle inspected and appropriate documentation was not issued.

On occasions some vocational drivers inform VOSA examiners that they do not have the time to wait for the issue of their documentation and leave the check sites without the appropriate paperwork. If an operator believes a sift has been undertaken and an electronic record not made the operator should refer in the first instance to VOSA’s complaints procedure.

VOSA is not the only enforcement agency who stop and inspect vehicles, however VOSA is currently the only agency who use the Operator Compliance Risk Score for enforcement targeting and the only agency who contribute to it at the roadside. An inspection carried out by an agency or force other than VOSA (e.g. police) will not be recorded on OCRS.

Hope this clears up why it seems to be a “Quickie” :slight_smile:

it really does pay to be polite. we all know, and they know that it can be annoying for someone to get pulled in.
some minor offences will be ignored, they may just say “keep an eye on that in future”. but if you’re an arse with them, then they’ll give you a fine.
i remember having a laugh with a copper at bamber bridge. he pulled me in, and then vosa took over, but just before the copper went off to get another lorry, i shouted “oi, hang on”.
“what’s up” he said.
“where’s my cup”
“what bloody cup” he replied.
“well all our other drivers have got a motorway police cup from being pulled”
“the thieving gits, no wonder we havn’t got any left, your lot have nicked em” :laughing:
we all had a good laugh.

i did one with customs at fleetwood. they were dipping tanks. they asked me to unlock them.
i said “just check that one then will you?”
“why, what’s wrong with the other?”
"it’s full of [zb]ing red :laughing: "

he only checked the one.

hardyd44:
VOSA now do what is known as a “SIFT” Type stop this is copied verbatium from VOSA

A Sift is a visual assessment of the apparent condition of the vehicle. This assessment will involve a complete circuit of the vehicle and a visual inspection of readily accessible items without the need to involve the driver. However on occasions and under exceptional circumstances for example the time of day or weather conditions where one would expect certain equipment to be operational or switched on and they are not (e.g. headlamps, washers and wipers) the examiner will ask the driver to operate these, to ensure that they are operational and in good working order.

All VOSA vehicle examiner encounters are recorded electronically irrespective of check type or sift; this only applies to roadworthiness inspections not traffic enforcement functions.

If the vehicle is sifted no paperwork will be issued, if the vehicle is inspected and found to be clear then a PG35ECDN will be issued. If the driver assists in the inspection by operating brakes, rocking the steering etc that is deemed an inspection. Operators should instruct their drivers that if they undertake system operations they should request such documentation from the vehicle examiner. If this is not forthcoming then they should request the site manager and inform them that they have had their vehicle inspected and appropriate documentation was not issued.

On occasions some vocational drivers inform VOSA examiners that they do not have the time to wait for the issue of their documentation and leave the check sites without the appropriate paperwork. If an operator believes a sift has been undertaken and an electronic record not made the operator should refer in the first instance to VOSA’s complaints procedure.

VOSA is not the only enforcement agency who stop and inspect vehicles, however VOSA is currently the only agency who use the Operator Compliance Risk Score for enforcement targeting and the only agency who contribute to it at the roadside. An inspection carried out by an agency or force other than VOSA (e.g. police) will not be recorded on OCRS.

Hope this clears up why it seems to be a “Quickie” :slight_smile:

Nice bit of info thanks, take it your the Vosa officer on this site?? (Or was the above just copied and pasted??) good day to you and I was joking about the fuse box :slight_smile:

Longman.

i think they still need plod to pull you in scotlandshire… unless the law has caught up in that part of the uk

Gembo:

Longman5978:
oh and if you see Vosa looking at you as you drive by give them the bird and put a smile on their face unless of course you have something to hide. :laughing: but if you look away as you pass they will wonder why. :smiling_imp:

FTFY :laughing:
Joking aside, would that not be construde as taking the ■■■■? (the wave i mean, not the bird :laughing: )

When switchlogic cruises past Vosa he tips his bowler hat forward to acknowledge them!

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Longman5978:

hardyd44:
VOSA now do what is known as a “SIFT” Type stop this is copied verbatium from VOSA

A Sift is a visual assessment of the apparent condition of the vehicle. This assessment will involve a complete circuit of the vehicle and a visual inspection of readily accessible items without the need to involve the driver. However on occasions and under exceptional circumstances for example the time of day or weather conditions where one would expect certain equipment to be operational or switched on and they are not (e.g. headlamps, washers and wipers) the examiner will ask the driver to operate these, to ensure that they are operational and in good working order.

All VOSA vehicle examiner encounters are recorded electronically irrespective of check type or sift; this only applies to roadworthiness inspections not traffic enforcement functions.

If the vehicle is sifted no paperwork will be issued, if the vehicle is inspected and found to be clear then a PG35ECDN will be issued. If the driver assists in the inspection by operating brakes, rocking the steering etc that is deemed an inspection. Operators should instruct their drivers that if they undertake system operations they should request such documentation from the vehicle examiner. If this is not forthcoming then they should request the site manager and inform them that they have had their vehicle inspected and appropriate documentation was not issued.

On occasions some vocational drivers inform VOSA examiners that they do not have the time to wait for the issue of their documentation and leave the check sites without the appropriate paperwork. If an operator believes a sift has been undertaken and an electronic record not made the operator should refer in the first instance to VOSA’s complaints procedure.

VOSA is not the only enforcement agency who stop and inspect vehicles, however VOSA is currently the only agency who use the Operator Compliance Risk Score for enforcement targeting and the only agency who contribute to it at the roadside. An inspection carried out by an agency or force other than VOSA (e.g. police) will not be recorded on OCRS.

Hope this clears up why it seems to be a “Quickie” :slight_smile:

Nice bit of info thanks, take it your the Vosa officer on this site?? (Or was the above just copied and pasted??) good day to you and I was joking about the fuse box :slight_smile:

Longman.

There are at least 4 people on this forum who have identified themselves as Vosa bods geebee45 for example.

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