Franglais:
It looks to me like those protesting have broken laws and are being charged by the police.
It is up to the law, in a law abiding society, to run it`s course.
It isn`t up to vigilantes to break further laws.
You think laws are too vague or penalties insufficient?
Then voice your opinion. Write to your MP. Go on a march.
(Maybe they won`t listen to you? Glue yourselves to the road then! )
Do the same or more, and you are as bad as, or worse, than these.
When one side has complete control of the law what can you do?
I dunno - in 100 years Ive a feeling these protestors will be looked on like we look at Schindler. At least they tried.
Franglais:
It looks to me like those protesting have broken laws and are being charged by the police.
It is up to the law, in a law abiding society, to run it`s course.
It isn`t up to vigilantes to break further laws.
You think laws are too vague or penalties insufficient?
Then voice your opinion. Write to your MP. Go on a march.
(Maybe they won`t listen to you? Glue yourselves to the road then! )
Do the same or more, and you are as bad as, or worse, than these.
Ok, so…‘‘Write to your MP’’
Let’s take an issue that affects us as an example.
How many ‘letters to MPs’’ have been written by individual and groups of drivers about the overnight UK truck parking situation?
How many petitions to MPs have been organised and sent on the same subject?
How many years has this gone on for?
How many different MPs have been the recipients of these letters, petitions and phone calls, after being replaced when the old one has been voted out?
Has parking improved because of the above?
Waste of [zb] time and energy.
Think the other guys had the best ideas, deploy a couple of snipers, or ‘’‘necklace’’ em with a Michelin.
Oscar2:
No it didn’t, much to the annoyance of the Home Secretary. Apparently it failed with the help of Labour, Liberals etc. So what was this Tory majority doing? Did they not hear of the Dartford incident? I checked both main news channels when this started and not one of them reported it. Must be an edict from the Government not to give them publicity. D Mail reported the commons vote .
It didnt pass because it gave the police terrifying powers they could have applied to anyone they didnt like. Suella braverman is utterly deranged.
JeffA:
I dunno - in 100 years Ive a feeling these protestors will be looked on like we look at Schindler. At least they tried.
In a 100 years it’s more likely that these deranged useful idiots will be rightly blamed for contributing to the casualties caused by energy rationing and nuclear disaster and a developed country sent back to the stone age.
All based on a false pretext that CO2 can create a runaway greenhouse effect, as cover for a wealth redistribution scam to benefit ‘developing countries’ at our expense.
Both remanded in custody until 17th November. Hopefully a horrible Victorian jail too.
As one of them is from New Zealand, hopefully he’ll get deported from the UK for having a criminal record- if he’s convicted.
Either way, those two idiots are in prison cells until atleast then.
I also hope the French company that own law the QE2 bridge sues them too for the loss of earnings.
Highways England (HE) operates the crossing on behalf of the Secretary of State for Transport, whoever that might be at the moment
The Dartford Crossing is therefore owned by the government.
A spokesman for HE said: "The belief that the crossing was owned by the French was because up until 2009, the company contracted with operating the crossing was called Le Crossing, although they are not a French company, but part of Ringway Babtie Ltd
RIPPER:
Just to put the record straight for a few people
Highways England (HE) operates the crossing on behalf of the Secretary of State for Transport, whoever that might be at the moment
The Dartford Crossing is therefore owned by the government.
A spokesman for HE said: "The belief that the crossing was owned by the French was because up until 2009, the company contracted with operating the crossing was called Le Crossing, although they are not a French company, but part of Ringway Babtie Ltd
From the same article you’re sourcing.
Under the original agreement when the bridge was built in 1991, tolling was supposed to stop once it had paid for itself, which was almost 15 years ago.
In February 1999, the government announced the Dartford Crossing would be free of toll charges by the end of 2003.
But in 2001, it was revealed that the government had backtracked out of the initial agreement, and there was outrage from all angles.
The powers to introduce a charge were agreed by Parliament in the Transport Act 2000, and the charge was introduced in 2003 following a consultation exercise.
To those of you thinking life will be sweeter when Labour take power, this was only 3 years after Blair rose to power and the song Things Can Only Get Better by D:Ream was played instead of the sound card every night on BBC1.
Party of the people my arse. It’s actually frightening how bad politics has become in this country. There is literally no one worth voting for.
Judging by their court appearance they now know the public feeling. The gallery made their feelings known. Even doing an interview on the court steps is a no. My mate was there they won’t be trying that stunt again.
As I said, just leave them, ignore them, get on with life.
we have no guys in this country police dont want to do any work unless its an easy nick or they are forced to and all that happends if they do turn up with no publisity is a talking to.
bring back the 60’s - 80’s with real protestors that knew when the police came it ment they were going to get thrown in the back of a van and given a good kicking . then when they got to the station another one.
I would put money on the two on dartford bridge will be released on the 17th with time servedand the courts excuse will be our hands are tied we can only go by sentencing laws. So all it has done is cost the tax payer to keep them for 4 weeks
in fact thinking on it an apropriate punishment would be to make them live in a lifestyle they want no heat and electric. nothing bought from the shops. can only eat what you grow in the back garden or raise ie chickens/sheep only wear what you can make from the animal skins. no work unless they can work from home however the work has to be completly green no road infostructure or teaching as both lead either direcrtly or indirectly to poloution. Bet that would make 4 weeks on remand in the worst prison look like a month in the carabian.
As I said, just leave them, ignore them, get on with life.
we have no guys in this country police dont want to do any work unless its an easy nick or they are forced to and all that happends if they do turn up with no publisity is a talking to.
bring back the 60’s - 80’s with real protestors that knew when the police came it ment they were going to get thrown in the back of a van and given a good kicking . then when they got to the station another one.
I would put money on the two on dartford bridge will be released on the 17th with time servedand the courts excuse will be our hands are tied we can only go by sentencing laws. So all it has done is cost the tax payer to keep them for 4 weeks
Too right !
Send in the Police to enforce the Gov point of view against protesters and union members.
Let courts decide sentencing, not have to obey the law of the land.
God Bless Engerland.
As I said, just leave them, ignore them, get on with life.
we have no guys in this country police dont want to do any work unless its an easy nick or they are forced to and all that happends if they do turn up with no publisity is a talking to.
bring back the 60’s - 80’s with real protestors that knew when the police came it ment they were going to get thrown in the back of a van and given a good kicking . then when they got to the station another one.
I would put money on the two on dartford bridge will be released on the 17th with time servedand the courts excuse will be our hands are tied we can only go by sentencing laws. So all it has done is cost the tax payer to keep them for 4 weeks
Too right !
Send in the Police to enforce the Gov point of view against protesters and union members.
Let courts decide sentencing, not have to obey the law of the land.
God Bless Engerland.
who said anything about the police doing what they or the gov wanted■■? if i walked down to my local supermarket and took a baseball bat to the most expencive car i could find i would deserve to be arrested yes? thatis the law of the land. If i stopped people going to do thier shopping i would be arrested for breach of the peace but if i do the same thing waving a banner complaining about humans ■■■■■■■ thats allowed.
Have you ever seen the “sentancing laws” Its not as simple as you did x so your punishment is y all sorts of things are taken into account because of bleeding heart liberals and all to often the phrase maximum sentance is trotted out with out any meaning behind it. This is why you see one person get 3 years probation and another get 5 years inside for the same offence swayed by public opinion.
How do you define “the scum” as you put it? Are people not allowed to move from London to Kent?
Depends. sell up because your sick to death with the self entitled me me me attitude and want to contribute to your comunity etc fine. I know several people that have done just that infact one of them said when we were discussing this said they wouldnt go back even for a day for all the tea in china. very few are like this.
The majority either move out because they cant afford to live there or sell up so they can buy some pile in kent but have no intrest in acting like a cival human being. think belongs to them and everyone else should get out thier way. These lsat two groups are the ones that cause the issues.
cooper1203:
The majority either move out because they cant afford to live there or sell up so they can buy some pile in kent but have no intrest in acting like a cival human being. think belongs to them and everyone else should get out thier way. These lsat two groups are the ones that cause the issues.
Translates as want to invade the home counties for Lebensraum but want to bring the City’s character and identity and all it stands for with them thereby defeating the object.
Which is why London is now well on its way to the Channel coast with calls to expand its borders to within sight of the South Downs and if those of us born and bred in the home counties like Surrey and Kent object they call us NIMBYS.They couldn’t make it up.
In Germany protesters glued themselves to floor at vw factory.
VW basically turned lights out went home and.left them.there untill next day.
When the police them got involved
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