edd1974:
Snap shot of article in today’s daily mail.
In Germany protesters glued themselves to floor at vw factory.
VW basically turned lights out went home and.left them.there untill next day.
When the police them got involved
JeffA:
I dunno - in 100 years Ive a feeling these protestors will be looked on like we look at Schindler. At least they tried.
In a 100 years it’s more likely that these deranged useful idiots will be rightly blamed for contributing to the casualties caused by energy rationing and nuclear disaster and a developed country sent back to the stone age.
All based on a false pretext that CO2 can create a runaway greenhouse effect, as cover for a wealth redistribution scam to benefit ‘developing countries’ at our expense.
Who told you the greenhouse effect is false?
You think all the hottest years ever happening recently is just coincidence?
JeffA:
I dunno - in 100 years Ive a feeling these protestors will be looked on like we look at Schindler. At least they tried.
In a 100 years it’s more likely that these deranged useful idiots will be rightly blamed for contributing to the casualties caused by energy rationing and nuclear disaster and a developed country sent back to the stone age.
All based on a false pretext that CO2 can create a runaway greenhouse effect, as cover for a wealth redistribution scam to benefit ‘developing countries’ at our expense.
Who told you the greenhouse effect is false?
You think all the hottest years ever happening recently is just coincidence?
If CO2 is supposedly a greenhouse gas how do you explain the difference in temperature of Venus v Mars both at 95% CO2 atmospheric content.
As opposed to Earth’s 0.04% ■■?.
Spare us the biased and rigged weather data.
No one is capping any oil and gas wells anytime soon because the governments know the whole thing is a bs scam.
So yes I do believe that Earth’s temperature variations are natural coincidence all based on normal parameters as expected at Earth’s atmospheric pressure and distance from the Sun.
All of which explains why Mars is a lot colder than Earth let alone Venus and the winter of 81/82 was as cold as it gets here unless you’re going to try to deny those facts too.
Carryfast:
If CO2 is supposedly a greenhouse gas how do you explain the difference in temperature of Venus v Mars both at 95% CO2 atmospheric content.
As opposed to Earth’s 0.04% ■■?.
Spare us the biased and rigged weather data.
No one is capping any oil and gas wells anytime soon because the governments know the whole thing is a bs scam.
So yes I do believe that Earth’s temperature variations are natural coincidence all based on normal parameters as expected at Earth’s atmospheric pressure and distance from the Sun.
All of which explains why Mars is a lot colder than Earth let alone Venus and the winter of 81/82 was as cold as it gets here unless you’re going to try to deny those facts too.
Not content with re-writing immunology, TN now does astrophysics too? Marvellous!
In case you weren’t aware, Venus is closer to the Sun than earth, and the sulphuric acid clouds are partly responsible for it’s intense atmospheric temperature, also it’s atmospheric pressure is almost 100 times that of Earth (93 to be more accurate), so the Co2 and H2SO4 atmosphere is massively more dense than ours and heat is more easily trapped.
Conversely Mars is further away from the Sun, so it gets less light and heat, and it’s atmosphere is about 100 times thinner than earth so it cannot retain heat as well. In fact it loses it’s heat so rapidly it’s been calculated that if you were on the martian equator at noon, the difference between the temperature at foot level and head level would be like summer versus winter.
Carryfast:
If CO2 is supposedly a greenhouse gas how do you explain the difference in temperature of Venus v Mars both at 95% CO2 atmospheric content.
As opposed to Earth’s 0.04% ■■?.
Spare us the biased and rigged weather data.
No one is capping any oil and gas wells anytime soon because the governments know the whole thing is a bs scam.
So yes I do believe that Earth’s temperature variations are natural coincidence all based on normal parameters as expected at Earth’s atmospheric pressure and distance from the Sun.
All of which explains why Mars is a lot colder than Earth let alone Venus and the winter of 81/82 was as cold as it gets here unless you’re going to try to deny those facts too.
Not content with re-writing immunology, TN now does astrophysics too? Marvellous!
In case you weren’t aware, Venus is closer to the Sun than earth, and the sulphuric acid clouds are partly responsible for it’s intense atmospheric temperature, also it’s atmospheric pressure is almost 100 times that of Earth (93 to be more accurate), so the Co2 and H2SO4 atmosphere is massively more dense than ours and heat is more easily trapped.
Conversely Mars is further away from the Sun, so it gets less light and heat, and it’s atmosphere is about 100 times thinner than earth so it cannot retain heat as well. In fact it loses it’s heat so rapidly it’s been calculated that if you were on the martian equator at noon, the difference between the temperature at foot level and head level would be like summer versus winter.
So it’s actually all about atmospheric pressure/density and distance from the Sun. CO2 content of the atmosphere has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with it.
In case you weren’t aware thats exactly what I said in addition to the difference between the top of Mont Blanc and Chamonix is Summer and Winter.Let alone Kilimanjaro.
The truth is if we burn every last gallon of oil and cubic metre of gas and tonne of coal it ain’t going to cook the planet and the government knows it.The whole thing is a wealth redistribution scam.
So we just keep burning oil and coal and Roberts your fathers brother?
No problem with CO2 dissolving into the oceans and making them too acidic for life to survive either then? Just keep burning and everything’s jackanory?
JeffA:
So we just keep burning oil and coal and Roberts your fathers brother?
No problem with CO2 dissolving into the oceans and making them too acidic for life to survive either then? Just keep burning and everything’s jackanory?
Earth has had far higher levels of CO2 in its atmosphere by a magnitude of thousands of times more before humans even existed.
0.04% is at the minimum range to sustain vegetation which is what recycles any excess CO2 into oxygen, on a net oxygen gain basis, including CO2 from burning of fossil fuel.
Which is why Earth has massively more oxygen than CO2 despite the best efforts of volcanoes to destroy the atmosphere in that regard.
So what do you lot want to do.Bury it under Soviet style housing estates and burn trees for biomass electricity generation which you then laughably call green together with your nuke power.
Fossil fuel is just a far better form of biomass fuel in the form of long dead trees which can play no further part in the photosynthesis cycle.Unlike living ones.
You anti fossil fuel climate scam believers are anything but green and should stop trying to laughaby claim the environmental moral high ground in that regard.
As it stands all you lot have to offer the planet is a nuke and biomass fuelled, urban concrete covered nightmare, at £1 per kWh for the privilege.All based on the bs theory that CO2 is a greenhouse gas which cooked Venus.Then when that theory gets busted by the fact of Mars’ atmosphere and temperature you try to move the goalposts to acidic sea water supposedly caused by less CO2 from burning long dead trees than volcanoes chuck out in a year.
JeffA:
So we just keep burning oil and coal and Roberts your fathers brother?
No problem with CO2 dissolving into the oceans and making them too acidic for life to survive either then? Just keep burning and everything’s jackanory?
Earth has had far higher levels of CO2 in its atmosphere by a magnitude of thousands of times more before humans even existed.
0.04% is at the minimum range to sustain vegetation which is what recycles any excess CO2 into oxygen, on a net oxygen gain basis, including CO2 from burning of fossil fuel.
Which is why Earth has massively more oxygen than CO2 despite the best efforts of volcanoes to destroy the atmosphere in that regard.
So what do you lot want to do.Bury it under Soviet style housing estates and burn trees for biomass electricity generation which you then laughably call green together with your nuke power.
Fossil fuel is just a far better form of biomass fuel in the form of long dead trees which can play no further part in the photosynthesis cycle.Unlike living ones.
You anti fossil fuel climate scam believers are anything but green and should stop trying to laughaby claim the environmental moral high ground in that regard.
As it stands all you lot have to offer the planet is a nuke and biomass fuelled, urban concrete covered nightmare, at £1 per kWh for the privilege.All based on the bs theory that CO2 is a greenhouse gas which cooked Venus.Then when that theory gets busted by the fact of Mars’ atmosphere and temperature you try to move the goalposts to acidic sea water supposedly caused by less CO2 from burning long dead trees than volcanoes chuck out in a year.
JeffA:
So we just keep burning oil and coal and Roberts your fathers brother?
No problem with CO2 dissolving into the oceans and making them too acidic for life to survive either then? Just keep burning and everything’s jackanory?
Earth has had far higher levels of CO2 in its atmosphere by a magnitude of thousands of times more before humans even existed.
0.04% is at the minimum range to sustain vegetation which is what recycles any excess CO2 into oxygen, on a net oxygen gain basis, including CO2 from burning of fossil fuel.
Which is why Earth has massively more oxygen than CO2 despite the best efforts of volcanoes to destroy the atmosphere in that regard.
So what do you lot want to do.Bury it under Soviet style housing estates and burn trees for biomass electricity generation which you then laughably call green together with your nuke power.
Fossil fuel is just a far better form of biomass fuel in the form of long dead trees which can play no further part in the photosynthesis cycle.Unlike living ones.
You anti fossil fuel climate scam believers are anything but green and should stop trying to laughaby claim the environmental moral high ground in that regard.
As it stands all you lot have to offer the planet is a nuke and biomass fuelled, urban concrete covered nightmare, at £1 per kWh for the privilege.All based on the bs theory that CO2 is a greenhouse gas which cooked Venus.Then when that theory gets busted by the fact of Mars’ atmosphere and temperature you try to move the goalposts to acidic sea water supposedly caused by less CO2 from burning long dead trees than volcanoes chuck out in a year.
Do you have any qualifications in this? Or are you self-taught? Because just about every scientist on earth disagrees with you.
JeffA:
So we just keep burning oil and coal and Roberts your fathers brother?
No problem with CO2 dissolving into the oceans and making them too acidic for life to survive either then? Just keep burning and everything’s jackanory?
Earth has had far higher levels of CO2 in its atmosphere by a magnitude of thousands of times more before humans even existed.
0.04% is at the minimum range to sustain vegetation which is what recycles any excess CO2 into oxygen, on a net oxygen gain basis, including CO2 from burning of fossil fuel.
Which is why Earth has massively more oxygen than CO2 despite the best efforts of volcanoes to destroy the atmosphere in that regard.
So what do you lot want to do.Bury it under Soviet style housing estates and burn trees for biomass electricity generation which you then laughably call green together with your nuke power.
Fossil fuel is just a far better form of biomass fuel in the form of long dead trees which can play no further part in the photosynthesis cycle.Unlike living ones.
You anti fossil fuel climate scam believers are anything but green and should stop trying to laughaby claim the environmental moral high ground in that regard.
As it stands all you lot have to offer the planet is a nuke and biomass fuelled, urban concrete covered nightmare, at £1 per kWh for the privilege.All based on the bs theory that CO2 is a greenhouse gas which cooked Venus.Then when that theory gets busted by the fact of Mars’ atmosphere and temperature you try to move the goalposts to acidic sea water supposedly caused by less CO2 from burning long dead trees than volcanoes chuck out in a year.
Do you have any qualifications in this? Or are you self-taught? Because just about every scientist on earth disagrees with you.
Science is not a “priesthood”.
What is said is judged on the evidence supporting it. Not on the person saying it.
Einstein was a great scientist, but he had problems with the ideas of quantum physics.
The quantum theory wasnt left behind because the greatest mind didnt like it. It was advanced because the evidence supported it.
Bellamy is not an idiot for getting man made climate change wrong.
But just because he got many other things right, that doesn`t mean he got everything right.
JeffA:
So we just keep burning oil and coal and Roberts your fathers brother?
No problem with CO2 dissolving into the oceans and making them too acidic for life to survive either then? Just keep burning and everything’s jackanory?
Earth has had far higher levels of CO2 in its atmosphere by a magnitude of thousands of times more before humans even existed.
0.04% is at the minimum range to sustain vegetation which is what recycles any excess CO2 into oxygen, on a net oxygen gain basis, including CO2 from burning of fossil fuel.
Which is why Earth has massively more oxygen than CO2 despite the best efforts of volcanoes to destroy the atmosphere in that regard.
So what do you lot want to do.Bury it under Soviet style housing estates and burn trees for biomass electricity generation which you then laughably call green together with your nuke power.
Fossil fuel is just a far better form of biomass fuel in the form of long dead trees which can play no further part in the photosynthesis cycle.Unlike living ones.
You anti fossil fuel climate scam believers are anything but green and should stop trying to laughaby claim the environmental moral high ground in that regard.
As it stands all you lot have to offer the planet is a nuke and biomass fuelled, urban concrete covered nightmare, at £1 per kWh for the privilege.All based on the bs theory that CO2 is a greenhouse gas which cooked Venus.Then when that theory gets busted by the fact of Mars’ atmosphere and temperature you try to move the goalposts to acidic sea water supposedly caused by less CO2 from burning long dead trees than volcanoes chuck out in a year.
Do you have any qualifications in this? Or are you self-taught? Because just about every scientist on earth disagrees with you.
David Bellamy studied Botany 60 years ago. Do you have anyone who has actually studied climate science?