weeto:
Well, just been for a driving assessment with a big company, and I have to go from a 5 minute walk around for a unit and trailer, to 30 minutes for the same thing, any suggestions on how to fill in the extra 25 minutes? In view of the transport office, so no rude ones!
If you do it properly there’s no way you can do a walk round in 5 minutes if you’re also including checking load security. Takes me nearly 30 minutes from turning up to traffic office to driving out the gate, at least 20 minutes of that doing checks and retightening straps.
Ricekrispies:
I find it amazing that these company’s get any work done with all this [zb].
They get more work done because their wagons don’t get tugged by VOSA, run out of oil half way through the day or arrive at the destination with the load strewn all over the back of the trailer. Unlike the [zb]hole you work at they also don’t tend to schedule work so that you’re chasing yourself up your own backside trying to get the job done before you run out of time.
Mr Physick:
When are drivers going to learn… THE SLOWER YOU GO THE MORE YOU EARN ON HOURLY PAY
Why do all you thick [zb]s working for peanuts keep coming out with this crap? Charge or work for a good rate to begin with then you won’t need to drag it out to 80 hours a week to scratch a living. Why the ■■■■ would anyone with any sense WANT to work MORE hours than they have to? Do you not have any life outside work? Are you all that sad and lonely ffs?
It could take a good five minutes to find the sticker with the date that the tachograph was calibrated. Another three or four if you pump the brakes to check that the low air pressure warning actually works. Finding someone to check your stop lights will take another couple.
I always did what I thought was a thorough check of the thing within my knowledge but most time took 10 mins. 10 mins is actually a long time when you time your walk round. Spent some more time filling out paperwork then still had to fill time in for the company request to show 15 mins. Where it took ages was if their was a fault and had to find someone to patch it up.
I can do a full pretrip in 15mins, that’s all fluid levels, tyres, wheel nuts (checked with a hammer for a ding rather than a dong) air leaks on braking system and three sets of airlines, a brake stroke measurement to ensure the brakes are adjusted, all my lights, the general condition of the chassis, steering and suspension components and write it all up on my DVIR.
I also have 9 axles to check all that and 41meters to walk around.
30mins is taking the ■■■■, but if you’re paid by the hour, who cares? Just wander around and think of the money
weeto:
Well, just been for a driving assessment with a big company, and I have to go from a 5 minute walk around for a unit and trailer, to 30 minutes for the same thing, any suggestions on how to fill in the extra 25 minutes? In view of the transport office, so no rude ones!
If it’s like our place take some filler and white paint for the damage you’ll find.
mrginge:
Vosa only ask you to show 15mins, that will do me.
There is nothing in law saying you have to show 15 mins for daily checks. It’s just some company procedures.
No, but if a driver gets pulled and VOSA check his card - he’ll be in trouble if he’s shown pulling out of the yard within 2 minutes of putting his card in…
weeto:
Well, just been for a driving assessment with a big company, and I have to go from a 5 minute walk around for a unit and trailer, to 30 minutes for the same thing, any suggestions on how to fill in the extra 25 minutes? In view of the transport office, so no rude ones!
Most BC company’s I have found say they ALLOW 30min for PVI’s and would expect you to show at least 15min on the card (and that would be The card in the head not on a manual entry) this allows for ALL daily checks paperwork putting your tacho in doing manual entries ((yes that’s part of your daily checks )How many of you on agency regularly check how much paper is in the head and that the tacho function buttons work )) … if your pulling a fridge all the settings are correct and the control panel works rear steps work its surprising if you do a proper full PVI it takes more than 5 / 10mins after all its not a race to see who gets out the door first.
As for the guys that say more hours more money and the ones that say crack on with it … that’s not really the attitude as the guy that takes his time to do proper checks may pick up something that will save the company time money or even a contract ( its easier to cross dock a load at depot due to a defective trailer than to wait how ever many hour for a fitter to turn up because you didn’t notice an air bag was worn and went bang or the tread of a tyre had worn through … Time is money for both party’s down time costs the firm more than up time …
newmercman:
Do any of you have to do in trip inspections? Or pre trip every different trailer you use during the day? Or is a one time start of shift deal?
Does looking at the tyres as you walk to the back to unload count ?
newmercman:
Do any of you have to do in trip inspections? Or pre trip every different trailer you use during the day? Or is a one time start of shift deal?
Does looking at the tyres as you walk to the back to unload count ?
Only if you walk back down the other side on the way back…
newmercman:
Do any of you have to do in trip inspections? Or pre trip every different trailer you use during the day? Or is a one time start of shift deal?
Does looking at the tyres as you walk to the back to unload count ?
I once worked with a bloke who was pulled in the rubber room for taking too long on his daily checks,this bloke could string any job out just to make his 9 hr shift up[day man],next day after his bollocking he ask for a torque wrench so he could check every wheel nut on his checks just to be awkward ,any other firm they would have laughed and told to ■■■■ off,but this was asda and run by people who have never seen a lorry ,he ended up taking nearly all his shift doing checks just to be difficult ,the same fella used to do 45 on mways. ,he was crackers
I can do prestart checks in 5 minutes if I want to get away. If I’m still at work the day before when it’s loaded, I strap the pallets and do up the curtains then so I know the load’s secure. Then in the morning I can just do a quick check. Oil etc is done via the computer, start engine up and go through light checks, walk around and check tyres. Mirrors are already set for me as I’m the only driver unless I’m off.
Stick coffee in travel mug, get my map and sat nav ready and off-If I hang around too long some of the other drivers want to open my door and talk ■■■■■■■■.
I will take longer on Mondays or if I didn’t drive the lorry the day before.
newmercman:
Do any of you have to do in trip inspections? Or pre trip every different trailer you use during the day? Or is a one time start of shift deal?
Every time we change a trailer just exactly as you should do. One I picked up today on the return run had a faulty shuttle valve on the brakes so a couple of minutes after you put the park brake on it dumped all the air out. If I’d have just hooked up, chucked my susies on and run the first I’d find out about it was down the road.
)) … if your pulling a fridge all the settings are correct and the control panel works rear steps work its surprising if you do a proper full PVI it takes more than 5 / 10mins after all its not a race to see who gets out the door first.
