Possibly a Driver Shortage?

Drift:
I would start at the CV stage Pimp as thats the first port of call, once they are charmed with that its the personal charm that needs to impress :sunglasses:

'Personal charm ’ is a bit of a hard one especially when applying for jobs afar/international. I’ve got different CVs as a have multiple qualifications, some are professionally done so all I do is update when I need to but still nothing:(
I live in Kent & yes I’ve gone & knocked on doors in person smartly dressed.

Timing is everything. If you ask an employer whom someone is leaving in a week, but they don’t know about it - you’ll get knocked back.
Ask after they’ve already put feelers out - and you’ll be invited to apply via normal channels, meaning someone else will get it first.

Only asking during that short moment of “unknown as yet opportunity” pays off when it comes to “knocking on doors”.

Speculative applications to yards that block book drivers is probably a better bet, even if it means you’ll just be “one of many” - since we all only need a single job for ourselves after all


I’ve noticed that if the higher ranking yard manager happens to work a later shift than the HR officer (nearly always a woman working 9-5) then you can get a more positive result by turning up at a suitable part of the late manager’s shift - ie not during dispatch, or their lunch break!
Imagine being told at a 9pm interview that “seeing as you’re already dressed for work (PPM) - if you can start to cover the vacant 10pm run tonight - the job is yours!”

Flexibility & Suitability. Turning up in a suit during office hours to chat up the HR girl isn’t any good imho - especially if you’re below par with wimmin like I am. :blush: A woman has never offered me a job in my life, and I’ve never got a job that involved meeting one in the application process either.

Winseer:

Left hand down!:

Andrejs:
muffets

:smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

“Muffet” is the surname of a sports-car driving son of a gaffer from “Carry On Loving”.
“Moffet” is a fork truck on your arse like “Palfinger”
“Palfinger” doesn’t paint your girlfriend with gold paint - it just allows self-tipping in fields.
“Donald Moffat” is an actor famous for bushy eyebrows, and playing a robot in the TV series “Logan’s Run”.
“Moffat” is a town in Scotland.

Andrejs - I love the way you talk. Keep on posting there y’hear! :smiley:

Poetry, just sheer ■■■■■■■■ poetry dude.

Well today I had a phone call from someone offering me work with an immediate start. Completely out of the blue, no clue who they were and I’ve not driven for half a decade which they seemingly weren’t bothered about. Someone who I used to know years ago who I remembered after he had put the phone down had passed my number on to who I assume was his transport manager. Said I’d been thinking about getting back into it but after summer as I look after my lad and I’ve got DCPC modules booked at the end of August. They said they had two night shifts available either a 3pm start/1am finish or 7pm start/7am finish they could put me on temporarily if I wanted.

Must be getting bad.

Winseer:
Flexibility & Suitability. Turning up in a suit during office hours to chat up the HR girl isn’t any good imho - especially if you’re below par with wimmin like I am. :blush: A woman has never offered me a job in my life, and I’ve never got a job that involved meeting one in the application process either.

It may not be any good but one may not have much choice. Twice I’ve done it I’ve ended up with knowledge of jobs not advertised, got to know application processes & one lady even sat me down & gave me insight into current operations, contracts in the pipeline etc, again stuff I think will be valuable especially if I ever got to interview stage


A woman from tesco once offered me the job of smashing her back doors in on a naughtily basis but I turned her down, she can’t afford me:lol:

Today I received an email from an agency I left ( havining never got any work from them) over a year ago. The email offered several c+e jobs locally with the usual ÂŁ9.50 pH rate (ÂŁ10 for nights). I replied informing of my full employment, salary, shift, dqc, leave etc etc and thanked them.
Got a reply a few hours later begging me to give them a call as they had given me the standard rates in the earlier email and that, having over 23 vacancies to fill each day (I assume they meant c+e vacancies) I may well find they have possibilities for me both temporary and permanent
I might just call 'em and request a permanent job on £20ph,day work and no nights out!

Pimpdaddy:

Winseer:
Flexibility & Suitability. Turning up in a suit during office hours to chat up the HR girl isn’t any good imho - especially if you’re below par with wimmin like I am. :blush: A woman has never offered me a job in my life, and I’ve never got a job that involved meeting one in the application process either.

It may not be any good but one may not have much choice. Twice I’ve done it I’ve ended up with knowledge of jobs not advertised, got to know application processes & one lady even sat me down & gave me insight into current operations, contracts in the pipeline etc, again stuff I think will be valuable especially if I ever got to interview stage


A woman from tesco once offered me the job of smashing her back doors in on a naughtily basis but I turned her down, she can’t afford me:lol:

Don’t knock what you ain’t tried! :smiley:

Winseer:
Don’t knock what you ain’t tried! :smiley:

I tried it alright, tesco went & zb’ed it up though


Pimpdaddy:

Drift:
I know, I only applied for 5 :wink:

I’ve sent off more than 50 applications in the last year, nothing
:frowning:

That’s because there’s no real driver shortage right■■? :wink:

Andrejs:
Drivers Shortate can be just in some companies-hiab,muffets,tipped.Because now drivers like just drive truck from A TO B.to many agency have one problem-now to many drivers jump from agency to agency with out serius reason.agency not easy found good flexibly drivers who understand who agency -it is not full time job.somebody must do job for short notice and and.and every years to many new passed drivers will come to this game.because money still not bad.clean,easy job(yes sometime can be bad day,same any job)

Ha. The company I work for pull B trains of grain barley fertilizer and anything else that can be bottom tipped and I’ve noticed a few that when you tell em that they actually gotta climb inside the hoppers to clean them they looked shocked. Quite a few not all but a fair few want simple easy pin to pin work no physical work involved. I drive double drop and step decks and love it to bits bit of a challenge. You can ram your tarps though lol (rope and sheet to you old buggers)

taffytrucker:
That’s because there’s no real driver shortage right■■? :wink:

If there was I’d be in a decent job.:wink:

Maybe there is a shortage - blue arrow agency are knocking on doors like cheap hookers at donnington services touting for business right this minute. Never seen that before.

They didn’t seem to appreciate my viewpoint on their industry either.

so here it is again driver shortage bo###cks ive been driving all my adult life and ime sick of hearing it I work for one of the so called top company’s in the uk our wage’s are crap we get hardly any overtime getting dragged home all the time to save the company money and now the driver cpc more teaching your granny to ■■■■ egg’s , I understand no one espcialy youngster’s want to drive truck’s who can blame them long hours (remember the working time directive less hour’s more time off more crap)and back to the dcpc I was told last year after September I will be able to name my price more crap It will just get extended or even better scrapped you boy’s in London might get it but not north of Watford, I wish I had listened to my mother god rest her don’t be a lorry driver son she told me do I sound angry#### yes I am good luck to anybody who can get a decent wage in this job :unamused:

taffytrucker:
That’s because there’s no real driver shortage right■■? :wink:

There is a shortage of decent drivers it would appear.

Conor:

taffytrucker:
That’s because there’s no real driver shortage right■■? :wink:

There is a shortage of decent drivers it would appear.

ha theres always been a shortage of decent driver’s try telling your boss after he gets off the floor in fits

Pimpdaddy:

Winseer:
Don’t knock what you ain’t tried! :smiley:

I tried it alright, tesco went & zb’ed it up though


I wasn’t talking about the Tescos bit here
 :smiling_imp: :smiling_imp:

Winseer:
I wasn’t talking about the Tescos bit here
 :smiling_imp: :smiling_imp:

Sorry, what were you talking about?

Conor:
There is a shortage of decent drivers it would appear.

I wonder what exactly a decent driver is


A decent driver depends on who you are in relation to them:

To themselves: A decent driver is one who’s financially secure, is content with their job, and is likely to stay in it until retirement. Their employer likes them back, because they are honest and reliable.

To other Drivers: A decent driver is one that doesn’t grass them up when THEY screw up, and one you can approach with your questions without being laughed at, because they pull seniority/superiority upon you at all times in the workplace.

To Full time Employers: A decent driver gets on with it, doesn’t complain, and is reliable. They’d only stump up if something dangerous or illegal were happening, so can be trustworthy and act as yard’s “Sheriff” on an unpaid basis as well.

To Zero Hours Employers: A decent driver takes any and every job offered them. Money is no object. Working maxed-out hours is what counts.

To the Public: A decent driver is the one they’ve never met. They only get to actually meet drivers in bad circumstances rather than good. When was the last time a driver got invited to a posh garden party as a result of their road maneuver saving lives? To the public - a driver is a “negative re-enforcement occupation”. :cry:

I am a decent driver
I keep my pants on, most of the time anyway :wink: :laughing: :laughing:

samsgrandad:
so here it is again driver shortage bo###cks ive been driving all my adult life and ime sick of hearing it I work for one of the so called top company’s in the uk our wage’s are crap we get hardly any overtime getting dragged home all the time to save the company money and now the driver cpc more teaching your granny to ■■■■ egg’s , I understand no one espcialy youngster’s want to drive truck’s who can blame them long hours (remember the working time directive less hour’s more time off more crap)and back to the dcpc I was told last year after September I will be able to name my price more crap It will just get extended or even better scrapped you boy’s in London might get it but not north of Watford, I wish I had listened to my mother god rest her don’t be a lorry driver son she told me do I sound angry#### yes I am good luck to anybody who can get a decent wage in this job :unamused:

I totally agree with you.The job has gone to the dogs or has it. Im taking semi retire ment in August after 43 years in the job. I put my name down with a few agencies for one or two days a week max. Three rang me yesterday, two twice. Both putting thier rates UP. on each call.As they where that desperate for EXPERIENCED, clean licence holders.End of next month I will play all of them off against each other for what suits me.