I suppose you have the person who has his house paid for and the kids gone will sometimes be happy working for minimum wage No Pressure easy going and no overheads
Then you have another guy in the same boat but will gladly do 60 hours a week at minimum wage, if you think about it for a second he don’t need to do all them hours, but in his head he thinks he’s earning great money for all them hours
Then you have the guy who is greatful to be able to earn minimum wage because he don’t know any better, let’s call them (follow the pack)
Then you have the guy who has to be told to go home because there’s not enough hours in the day for him
How could conditions ever change when you have so many different ways people do the job
Just browsing Indeed for the going rate around that area. Seems to be about right for Class 1. Between £8.50 to £10.00 per hour seems the going rate in the Yorkshire area for days. Kit seems good. Only deciding factor is what they’re like to work for. Money’s in the ballpark, so I reckon someone will snap up the Shipley’s job straight away.
It cracks me up when a job website says pay ranges between £8.50 - £17.00 per hour. I’d love to see what days and hours you have to work for £17 p/h!
£17 quid will be double time on sunday
I worked a bank holiday at christmas which worked out at £29.40 hour. Perhaps they include that in the "up to £17/hour.
Harry Monk:
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xichrisxi:
Rowley010:
I get Just over 9 quid an hour basic. I did leave for short time and was on £11 per hour. But in that job the contract hours were 40, current job it’s 50, current job get paid for every hour straight through, other one deducted breaks, current one does average holiday pay, that one was doing basic holiday pay, current one pays for your cpc and you get paid for the day while you do it. Other one you had to pay for each cpc course and you didn’t get paid for the day when you did it meaning you had to do it on a day off!I’ve obly just started there but it didn’t take long to work out that overall I actually was as well off on £9 per hour than £11 when you looked into the whole deal.
Swings and roundabouts eh
Just a quick note,everyone has to do average holiday pay now…think it’s an average of your last 12 weeks iirc.
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We’res that written down in employment law then.
It’s in the Working Time Directive.
That’s more akin to “Improved Holiday Pay” meaning you get some extra added to “regular” holiday pay, as a result of doing bits and pieces of overtime - so an average amount of overtime is worked out.
I’d be horrified to find that in any full-time PAYE job - I got to lose money if I dared to take holidays anywhere away from “exactly 6 days break at the end of each 13 week period”.
What is this “Legal Island” thing anyways? The site reads like a Remainer’s interpretation of EU vs UK laws, no doubt to make-up and scare us with whenever it suits them.
There are NO plans to scrap holiday pay in the UK for full time workers.
“Workers Rights” as enshrined in EU law that are worth keeping - were the UK’s transplanted to the EU in the first place. Our good ideas don’t go in the dustbin therefore, once Brexit is completed.
Big Business interpretation of the WTD actually involves staff being told “Sorry bud, no overtime for you - because you’d go over your WTD average!”
This is especially bad news for those people who are paid for a 48 hour week as standard, and essentially do more like 55-60 hours, mitigating enough away in Breaks and POA to stay “Legally to the 48 hour limit” otherwise.
Not much bloody good if you are then effectively banned from ever getting paid overtime - is it?
eagerbeaver…you forgot : I wouldnt get out of bed for that.
Each driver works to his own level, so you phone up for a job, get the interview…go down, and they say its 100 hours a week…and £9 an hour.+ 5 nights out, they pay for the parking…so joe bloggs adds it up and says
F.me, i`ve never had it so good…but when he starts getting a bit fed up with long hours, too many nights away,…he then mentions the £9 an hour as a ■■■■ rate…we all have a top line, and a bottom line…and to be honest, if i was satisfied with the take home, i take the job…with no debts, mortgage paid etc etc…i only need pocket money…but my wage wouldnt suit a guy with 3 kids a mortgage and credit cards maxed out. On the other hand i do have principles…and in this day and age £9 is a low rate…especially down south…and i doubt i would start with a company offering that…but with a mound of eastern europeans…an employer wouldnt take long to find a driver…even on £8 an hour…each to their own.its all about wants and needs.
truckyboy:
eagerbeaver…you forgot : I wouldnt get out of bed for that.Each driver works to his own level, so you phone up for a job, get the interview…go down, and they say its 100 hours a week…and £9 an hour.+ 5 nights out, they pay for the parking…so joe bloggs adds it up and says
F.me, i`ve never had it so good…but when he starts getting a bit fed up with long hours, too many nights away,…he then mentions the £9 an hour as a [zb] rate…we all have a top line, and a bottom line…and to be honest, if i was satisfied with the take home, i take the job…with no debts, mortgage paid etc etc…i only need pocket money…but my wage wouldnt suit a guy with 3 kids a mortgage and credit cards maxed out. On the other hand i do have principles…and in this day and age £9 is a low rate…especially down south…and i doubt i would start with a company offering that…but with a mound of eastern europeans…an employer wouldnt take long to find a driver…even on £8 an hour…each to their own.its all about wants and needs.
Good point TB, thanks for the reminder.
OP…I wouldn’t get out of bed for that
Adonis.:
Don’t work for them if you don’t like what they pay.A.
Well said that man
Although there will be idiots who are willing to work for disgustingly low pay if they can have a flashy truck
Pat Hasler:
Adonis.:
Don’t work for them if you don’t like what they pay.A.
Well said that man
Although there will be idiots who are willing to work for disgustingly low pay if they can have a flashy truck
Sometime people work 60 hours per week and 30 hours from this 60 hours he sleep at work.and earn 600.Another company pay 10per hours but all shift just 8-9hours and no waiting time .Drivers want work but he can earn just 400 per week before tax.Not in all company drivers work long shift all the time.
Since the UK govt pay tax credits to those on lower pay, is it not possible that a guy on minimum wage with say for instance two children is better off earning less? Working tax abd child tax credits would probably make a £9 ph job equate to more like £12ph+. Any pay rise will equal less tax credits…catch 22.
Happy to be corrected on this if im wrong…
AndrewG:
Since the UK govt pay tax credits to those on lower pay, is it not possible that a guy on minimum wage with say for instance two children is better off earning less? Working tax abd child tax credits would probably make a £9 ph job equate to more like £12ph+. Any pay rise will equal less tax credits…catch 22.
Happy to be corrected on this if im wrong…
Absolutely correct. Not sure it would add that much but does add up and even family allowance is stopped if earn to much now
kcrussell25:
AndrewG:
Since the UK govt pay tax credits to those on lower pay, is it not possible that a guy on minimum wage with say for instance two children is better off earning less? Working tax abd child tax credits would probably make a £9 ph job equate to more like £12ph+. Any pay rise will equal less tax credits…catch 22.
Happy to be corrected on this if im wrong…Absolutely correct. Not sure it would add that much but does add up and even family allowance is stopped if earn to much now
Daytrunker has packed in heavies for that very reason. Drives a van for Iceland part time for £9 per hour.
Think he said he works 20 hours or so and is no worse off after tax credits are added.
Good on him. A smart fella is Jeff.
eagerbeaver:
kcrussell25:
AndrewG:
Since the UK govt pay tax credits to those on lower pay, is it not possible that a guy on minimum wage with say for instance two children is better off earning less? Working tax abd child tax credits would probably make a £9 ph job equate to more like £12ph+. Any pay rise will equal less tax credits…catch 22.
Happy to be corrected on this if im wrong…Absolutely correct. Not sure it would add that much but does add up and even family allowance is stopped if earn to much now
Daytrunker has packed in heavies for that very reason. Drives a van for Iceland part time for £9 per hour.
Think he said he works 20 hours or so and is no worse off after tax credits are added.Good on him. A smart fella is Jeff.
He is until there are not enough of us working full time to pay enough taxes to pay all the benefits…
That’s a general comment, not a dig at daytrunker
AndrewG:
Since the UK govt pay tax credits to those on lower pay, is it not possible that a guy on minimum wage with say for instance two children is better off earning less? Working tax abd child tax credits would probably make a £9 ph job equate to more like £12ph+. Any pay rise will equal less tax credits…catch 22.
Happy to be corrected on this if im wrong…
If drivers get 9 per hours and work 50hours per that he get about 23-25k per years.I think no any tax credit if he get 25k.Much more wages was damaged by this limited company and Vat tax.Due this Vat and low tax driver can working from agency for 9 pound but takes home same who work full time for 11-12.Now Vat time finished.
kcrussell25:
eagerbeaver:
kcrussell25:
AndrewG:
He is until there are not enough of us working full time to pay enough taxes to pay all the benefits…
That’s been the case since Blair took office and made far worse if that were possible by the party currently masquerading as conservative under Cameron and now May, hence the elephant in the room, the national debt which is currently perilously close to £2trillion, or £2000billion, or £2,000,000,000,000 if that helps makes it any more clear just how for up the crapper we are