Have you not read about those who work 4 on and 4 off? That is a three and a half day week. It exists in various industries including…wait for it…road transport !
Total hours in 4 days Transport compared to 4 days Public Sector.
OK then how about these 200 companies?
Full list of 200 UK companies who have adopted four-day working week - Manchester Evening News
What has Lowe, and what have you, seemingly against the betterment of ordinary workers?
If workers earn enough to live on, and a company does well, why do you seem to think even more is needed?
Give us a list.
Rupert Lowe does not come across as someone who is anti workers nor am I, it’s the workshy he is getting at.
He has consistently voted against the Workers Rights Bill.
What do you mean by workshy?
If someone earns enough in 4 days, and the job is done in 4 days, then why go in for a 5th or 6th day? The 5 day 40hr week is not written in stone. It has been common practise for a long time, but it is not a given.
What is wrong with working from home if you can do so?
Why is it necessary to travel in traffic, spending money and time, making things harder for those who cannot work from home. What advantage is there to being in one location every day?
It looks to me like a “dog in the manger” attitude from Lowe. He wants people to suffer for their pay.
I am not happy about paying large sums of money to those who can work, but chose not to. I do not think that happens very much. I do think that when it does happen a great big fuss is made about it.
If all benefits are cut then the genuinely needy will suffer along with the skivers.
I reckon it is better that some nasty lazy people get a free ride, rather than punish the ill, and temporarily out of work by putting them on the breadline.
Examples of the workshy amongst us?
How about this? The Worst in the European Parliament: How Truant Brexit MEPs are making a Mockery of Britain – Byline Times Those who moaned about how bad the EU was for the UK could not be bothered to turn up and make things better for their own country. But were happy to take the full pay and full pensions.
Oh and took funds for their own party, money which should have been for their constituents benefit. Money which the EU took back when it was discovered how it was being misused.
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I am not happy about paying large sums of money to those who can work, but chose not to. I do not think that happens very much.
I sincerely hope you are kidding with that statement !!
Nope. I am serious.
For years the figure was estimated at about 2% over payments, and less than 0.5% underpayments. That went up a lot in Covid years but is dropping again.
franglais did you read this?
come on man give us your take on it, have you any links to disprove these good honest facts from a long time ago and still ageless.
I’ve never seen that piece by Lincoln, but I reckon he has essentially described some most or all, of the fundamentals and concept of socialism, which most of us know never really works in the real world or in real terms, … irrespective of some of the sentiments involved.
So I reckon Franglais agreeing with it, and not refuting each bullet point in detail, supported by dubious biased links, is about as likely as me joining Man Utd supporters club.
Just to add another piece of wisdom and true words.
That’s me robroy since 1959 through good and bad, I live in hope of the glory days returning.
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And I always had you down as an ‘‘OK kind of guy’’ on here
Abe Lincoln is not The Messiah.
(Feel free to to look at Terry Jones in drag for a few minutes! 
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And Clarkson is much, much, further away from that.
And it seems that @robroy was near the mark about Lincoln…PolitiFact | A pro-capitalism quote misattributed to Abraham Lincoln resurfaces
Are memes from a few hundred years ago still relevant? Or from a few decades ago?
Why not? If the idea is sound let it stand, no matter who says it.
Notable I think that no one seems to be looking at what Labour or anyone is really saying, are they? They are all making ■■■■ up and ridiculing their made up sayings!
Straw men.
Anyone care to discuss what is really happening? As opposed to talking about fictions.
On the contrary…..I think virtually EVERYBODY is looking at Labour today in the country, even those of which I have mentioned before who are not usually politically orientated or even interested.
They are making a complete f.up, their competence levels are appalling,.they are out of their depth,.they have actually and amazingly alienated the type of class and people that their whole existence was based on…..their raison d’etre .
Now before you start we know the Tories were crap, but it ainr a political point scoring Top Trumps gsme pointing out aspects which are comparable or worse, it is THIS govt TODAY and where they are taking us that everybody is sitting up and taking notice of with fear and trepidation…..even life long usually staunch Labour voters, my own octogenarian Dad and Aunt who by coincidence brought it up today in fact in conversation, they are disgusted and ashamed of this govt…..to get back to you and the Tories, they hated them also, but this is on another level.
Now you can refute and compare with examples and links as much as you want, but that is the mood of the country,.I would go as far as to say that the hatred of Starner amongst his supposedlly ‘‘own’ working class far supersedes that of Thatcher in the 80s….but she was never meant to be ‘‘Champion of the working class’‘ where as Starmer IS !
Those people and yes ME, who is a non loyal mercenary voter, but who should be a Labour voter by my class,.would have loved to see Starmer be popular and succesful…..from a patriotic pov, but he has managed to become in 18 months as unpopular as the Tories were in 14 years.
You needn’t address my post with a long winded one….I get it, you don’t agree.
1 You can’t bring about prosperity by discouraging spending.
2 To earn money someone else has to spend that money.
3 It’s no good encouraging spending if that money is spent on imports at the expense of domestic jobs and unemployment benefits.
4 A services based economy won’t pay for manufacturing imports .
5 Socialism doesn’t work Nor does MonetaristThatcherism.US 1950’s/60’s style Fordist Capitalism does/did.
Yeah yeah yeah, it’s GBN, but it’s what I hear people say, almost on a daily basis, not just like minded political people either, not necessarily mates in Spoons….(or .not even in The famous Fox & Grapes) , but at work, in the street, overheard conversations, etc just generally. …..the mood of the country is at a low ebb because of Labour.
If you still have doubts about the real intentions of Muslims watch this Birmingham MP calling for Muslims to take over the UK 
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More sleaze and embarrasment for this ‘‘Whiter than white Transparent sleaze free govt’‘.
Sentenced to 2 years in jail no less.
Sound quality is terrible, but he is talking about “parties”.
Is he calling for Muslims to take over the UK? Or for “Your Party” and the “Gaza peace movement” to take over the UK?
Even GBN does not say he is calling for a Muslim takeover!
Quote from GBN “Independent MPs gathered in Birmingham to rally support for ‘Your Party’ and the Gaza cause.”
Saying it is Muslims trying to take over the UK is like saying that Hindus ruled the UK when Sunak was PM, or that Harold Wilson was trying to take over the UK for pipe-smokers.
Sunak is Hindu, and Wilson was a pipe smoker, but they were also more that those things.
Why look at someone and see only their colour/race/religion?