Or maybe I will react to it…. like this..
Name….Ali Abdul.
Country…Iraq.
Any I.d…No I lost it.
Any criminal record…No.
Any past sexual offences…No.
Fine, that just about covers it, welcome to the UK.
Ok go down there turn right and you will see your 4 star hotel, meal served at 7., then feel free to go about your business in our community.
Yeah very efficient, very secure ….very responsible.
Never mind Farage where s Trump when you need him.
This is the Politics thread. Not just the Budget thread.
The only thing you seem to have commented about the budget is that you think it is all a load of crap, and that you are against the dropping of the two child cap. I made commentv about “your hero” actually also supporting that although you previously said it was welcomed by “baying lefties”, wasn’t it? And I further tried to discuss the subject of the child support but again you chickened out of any discussion about it, and whilst chucking a few insults around, ignored any attempt at a dialogue.
Farage? No, I am not “obsessed” with him. I leave that to those who indulge in hero worship.
He is a very vocal and well known figure in UK politics, so why wouldn’t he be a subject for discussion in a politics forum?
He and his views should be looked at, shouldn’t they?
Do the use the word “obsession” because nothing is ever vaguely ordinary in RobRoy World? It is all a melodrama?
Immigrants are all here to plant bombs and destroy the British way of life? Everyone in any form of official capacity is a money grabbing incompetent? Where a hundred thousand asylum seekers are the reason we are short of millions of houses?
Do you really live in a simple world where all wear either a black hat or a white hat?
A melodrama where everyone who says I am on your side really is, on your side? Where privately educated, lying, cheating spivs, who misappropriate tax payers funds are really on your side…because they say “I am on your side”?
I guess that last is a rhetorical question. You have Farage for a hero. In the pay of the Russian state for years. And taking money from owners of offshore companies.
He says he is for the UK but all his actions are against betterment of the majority of UK workers.
Of course they are…… on planet gullible and subservient they most likely are, a nirvana where no fraud is ever committed.
There’s none so blind as those who won’t see. (Stevie Wonders 1986)
Tell me oh great political sage why someone would pay to be smuggled out of the country? It’s not (yet) a totalitarian state, people are free to leave ya know.
So? Are you saying they are not being finger printed? Or that they are being finger printed but Border Force are taking a bung and not doing their job?
Where does that idea come from? Any evidence?
Ever heard of people trafficking? People are free in the UK, yes at the moment, but in other countries they are still used as commodities and moved about as goods.
Slaves do not need chains if they are fearful of consequences for their families in other places.
No great wisdom needed to see that, O great melodramatic one. 
lol lol lol. You are incredibly naive and deluded aren’t you?
You should enter the national gullibility championship, you’d win hands down.
For someone who knows nothing about me you seem to think you know a lot about me….btw in reality on that score you know the far end of f all about me.
Proof…the day I ‘‘chicken out’‘ of anything in any context that involves the likes of you, I’ll be having a serious word with myself.
You mention dialogue….you have proved beyond any doubt that your mind is totally closed, and that you are a deluded servile to the cause borg/useful idiot, your idea of dialogue is pushing your lefty bullcrap propaganda …..that nobody on here takes seriously anyhow.
Your typical lefty comment.about immigrants kinda proves it, no it aint black and white with me, unlike you I am a realist living in the real world, not some deluded idiot who bases his opinions on what he is told to believe.
Yeah and if something is worth criticising him about I will….you chose the scenario of some bloke down on his luck, conveniently ignoring the scroungers and foreigners who should have no right to claim benefits…..where as Farage is not.
As for the rest of your crap….what’s the point of addressing it….maybe apart from your ‘‘hundreds of thousands of immigrants’‘ not being responsible for shortage of homes crap…..yeah maybe not responsible but if they were not allowed in after breaking into our country those hundreds of thousands could be indigenous Brits being housed
Tell ya what, shove her lefty brainwash indoctrination up yer hole mate, I’m bored with your verbal diahreah.
Ah well then…so is it OK for someone down on his luck to suffer, just so long as others suffer too?
That seems to be Farage’s stance. Is it yours too?
So going to continue the conversation?
Or are you about to retire to the Fox and Grapes again? Or tell us about your inability to concentrate for long periods?
And in the @robroy edit…
As expected.
do you ever bother to think for a nano second before you fart out this cobblers. people trafficking only happens when people want to get from one place to another illegally. otherwise all the people smugglers would have to do is walk up to someone and say pay us thousands or your gerbil gets it.no need to spend money on actually transporting them or spend time on all the logistical organisation.
Yeah well you could always write it down in your sad assed ‘‘TN point scoring little victory book’’ ……if you consider it so.
Have a read back as to why it is pointless geting into a long conversation with you….clue read ythe bit about ‘Dialogue’ and ‘servile and deluded’ maybe that will sink in.
Nah I may discuss my other trait…..a zero tolerance approach to complete d/heads.
Yes I do. Usually a fair bit longer.
I suggest you try it too.
I don’t have that intolerance of idiots…
good to know you dont suffer with self loathing
When that should read: We have prepared a place especially for you to make your new homestead. You will be taken to St Kilda where you will be given two cows, six sheep and some hand tools. Weather permitting, a boat will call every two months to return those who no longer wish to stay in the UK to their country of origin.
Food for thought from a well respected and senior tier one operator.
Nb, the usual wet flannels can keep their pussy opinions to themselves. I don’t care as you’re irrelevant
THE FORK IN THE ROAD: BRITAIN’S DARKEST NIGHTMARE - AND ITS ROAD TO RECOVERY
By Chris Hunter QGM
I’ve spent most of my adult life in conflict zones - Northern Ireland, The Balkans, Iraq, Afghanistan, and many parts of Africa - watching, up close, how dissent becomes instability, how instability becomes societal fracture, and how societal fracture becomes war. I’ve seen countries slide from quiet frustration to burning streets, from political drift to armed factions, from fragile cohesion to outright collapse.
If there’s one truth I’ve learned in all those years on the ground, it’s this: no nation is immune. Not even ours. There are moments in a nation’s life when the timeline forks. When the choices we make - or fail to make - determine whether the next decade becomes a chapter of attainment…or a warning to future generations about how quickly a country can come apart.
Right now, Britain is at such a fork.
We don’t like saying that aloud. We’re British. We queue, we cope, we get on with things. We convince ourselves that “it can’t happen here.”
But history has a brutal habit of coming for nations that grow complacent. And if we continue down our current trajectory - politically divided, economically strained, socially fragmented, with a state that’s lost much of its capacity to enforce its own laws - the worst-case scenario isn’t just “a bit more tension.”
The worst-case scenario is collapse. Slow, steady, then suddenly.
Let me paint that picture first.
The Worst Case Scenario: The Cracks Become Fault Lines
It doesn’t begin with a civil war. It begins with fatigue.
Years of rising taxes, falling services, and political chaos leave people exhausted. The immigration system remains overwhelmed, with thousands arriving illegally each month, but the machinery of the state - courts, Home Office, policing - can no longer cope. Communities feel abandoned. Crime grows. Trust erodes.
Then the catalyst arrives.
Maybe it’s a major terror attack. Maybe it’s a policing failure caught on camera that ignites fury. Maybe it’s an economic shock that pushes struggling households over the edge. Maybe it’s simply the breaking point for a public who no longer believes the government can keep order.
And within hours, whole neighbourhoods ignite.
In some cities, police are pushed back. Their numbers too few, their morale too thin, their political backing too hesitant. What begins as a riot becomes a week-long running battle. Gangs, extremists and opportunists seize control of the streets after dark.
Communities retreat into themselves. Tribal lines harden. People start talking about “us” and “them” like it’s a foreign country they’re living in.
Within a month, the country has zones the police barely enter. Not because they don’t care - but because they can’t. Courts are backlogged for years. Prisons are full. The state begins to lose coherence.
Foreign actors flood social media with disinformation designed to inflame tensions. Fake videos circulate, each one designed to widen the cracks.
And inside that chaos, something darker grows.
Small extremist factions - some Islamist, some far-right, some just violent opportunists - begin operating like insurgent cells. Bombings. Assassinations. Arson attacks. Tit-for-tat reprisals. The kind of daily rhythm of violence the UK hasn’t seen since the darkest days of Northern Ireland - but now across multiple cities, not one province.
The government declares emergency powers. Troops deploy to support police. Curfews are enforced. International confidence evaporates. Businesses flee. Foreign investment dries up. Supply chains falter. And a generation grows up knowing only fear, anger and division.
This is not a civil war in the traditional sense. It’s worse: a nation splintering from within, neighbourhood by neighbourhood, until what remains is a flag and a memory.
If we continue sleepwalking - politically, socially, economically - this is the road Britain will take. And it is not as far away as people think.
The Alternative Future: Leadership and collective responsibility
But the timeline is not fixed. Not yet.
There’s another version of the next decade - one rooted in realism, collective courage and competence rather than denial. In this future, Britain doesn’t drift. It decides.
It strengthens its borders with the same seriousness it applies to national defence. Illegal immigration drops sharply because the system finally works. It reforms its policing and justice system - not with slogans, but with manpower, resources, and political cover that allows them to enforce the law without fear or favour. It rebuilds the social contract: one rule for all, one shared set of values, one nation - not a patchwork of communities living parallel lives under parallel norms. It invests in integration - real integration - where English language, civic duty and shared identity matter again. It renews the economy by stripping away pointless bureaucracy, incentivising enterprise, and unleashing the kind of innovation Britain is world-class at when it tries. It modernises the military - not to posture, but to deter. To keep threats abroad, not at our doorstep.
And above all, it restores trust.
Not through PR. Not through empty statements. But through delivery.
When the bin is collected on time, trust grows. When the police answer the call, trust grows. When the law is enforced consistently, trust grows. When the border is protected, trust grows. And bit by bit, the country comes back together. Bit by bit, the future begins to look less like a threat, and more like an opportunity.
This scenario requires leadership. Real leadership. Not the kind that thinks in headlines, but the kind that thinks in generations. The kind that understands that multiculturalism without cohesion becomes fragmentation. That immigration without control becomes crisis. That defence without investment becomes delusion. And that a nation without shared values becomes a battleground.
The Choice Ahead
We’re approaching a decisive chapter. On one path, Britain becomes a cautionary tale - a country that believed it was immune to the forces ripping others apart, until the cracks became fault lines and the fault lines became fires. On the other path, Britain remembers who it is. A nation built on grit, fairness, duty, decency, and the quiet determination to do what’s right even when it’s hard.
The future is not written, but the window to shape it is closing; and if we want the optimistic scenario, we need to choose it now - deliberately, urgently, and collectively.
Because countries don’t fall apart overnight. They fall apart gradually…until one day, they can’t be put back together. But they also grow the same way - step by step, decision by decision, year by year. And then they prosper.
The fork is here. The choice is ours. And history is watching.
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Pah !….’’The wisdom of vast experience’’ from ‘‘Chris Hunter Senior Tier 1 Operator’’ ….my arse.
We’ve got Franglais 
Correct me if I’m wrong but I thought bigamy was illegal in this country, ….Not for everybody apparentlly.
#ensuringvotes.
Our apologist will be along soon to explain (and justify 
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Where did Maoster say they are previous asylum claimants.
What would be the point of smuggling anyone out without the re entry motive and if every entry and benefits claim has been biometric checked and cross referenced.
Whatever is on offer to them l here is clearly better than what’s on offer to them in France and it’s not difficult to see how our immigrationbbenefits system could be subverted as an earner and an industry for traffickers.
