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The last coal fired station in the UK closed last year…

Some fit people were OK, and some fit people died of Covid. If your family escaped then I am happy for you.
The field hospitals were instigated when it was unknown what would happen.

Having some vulnerable people in my immediate family I thought it better to forgo a family Christmas dinner in order to try and give them a few more years of healthy life. They did survive until the vaccines were rolled out. We have had some Xmases together since then.

I somehow managed to survive the immense hardship of not being in my first choice location for few days…
Maybe I am tougher than you?

the biggest scam nonsense is shipping wood pellets all the way from the 51st state to burn in Drax. And getting grants and subsidies to do so. Absolute scandal. Likewise all this clearing forests for producing palm oil that is then used as eco derv.

I’m an eco warrior, but do the efffing maths. Likewise solar farms. Just more money siphoned from the taxpayer into big business hands. Yes I do support wind farms in the right place, but solar farms when even now new houses are still been built without even a paltry 4Kw installation is nuts and crooked. Then big business will switch hats yet again and try getting fracking started again.
No wonder the average person is confused about UK energy policy when they’re seeing all this crap going on. And as for server farms for AI. DON’T GET ME STARTED

Bitcoin mines..?
:flushed_face:

Who funds the scientists? Surely you aren’t naive enough to believe that they’ll risk their funding by disagreeing with their financial backers views?

Scientists thrive on grants and are also partial to a bit of recognition. Seeing as Covid has been mentioned you saw them daily popping up on the media gleefully toeing the line because all of a sudden every man and his dog was throwing cash at them. Can you imagine being a scientist knowing that your work is probably vital but at the end of your career nobody will miss you or know who you were and then suddenly tv cameras and microphones are being thrust into your face?

Instant stardom.

Providing you don’t vary from the script that is.

Swoon what a hero.

A few days?..
Not how I remember it, I was firloughed for about 7 weeks,.and it carried on way after that.

Yep maybe you are mate sadly we will never know

Christmas lasts for a few days in my book.
I don’t get put to bed by my parents saying “Only 49 more sleeps until Father Christmas is here” anymore.

I worked all through it. A truly bizarre time.

Giving up an Xmas party was not too big a price to pay to minimise the risk to others less healthy and older than me.
Not everyone thought the same way obviously.

You want to “score points” by telling us all how you care more about your own short term pleasure than the long term health of others? Carry on.

Never mind! There is a good chance that I imported some of the stuff that you consumed at your parties.
No need for thanks, nor a standing ovation. :grinning:

technically, they’re two breeds of the same monster. Bit coin mining just requires sheer brute force computation, no AI just endless number crunching. Seems the US is creeping into the lead there because they don’t care about wasting energy on pretend money (never mind the allegations that trump only became interested in fake coins when someone pointed out it’s a VERY good way of pumping illegal money around with little effort and risk)

AI is the biggest threat though to everyone except the gits who own the AI program and the servers it runs on. But just like the threat to democracy from corrupt politicians that some people are blind to, many people are also blind to the threat to decent jobs that AI could do, badly but none the less. And automation takes most the other jobs away, leaving very little jobs at all in the future.

I simply don’t know what 8 billion people are gonna do for a living in another 10 years time.

Furlough and shutdown.Yet another example of divide and conquer. I did laugh somewhat at a few complainers who after furlough couldn’t get a new job, tried signing on the dole only to find out the torygraph, mirror, sun and the other ass wipe rags have been lying about how easy it is to get the dole, and how much it is.

Just the sort of whinging snowflakes who would have condemned the mighty unwashed unemployed previously for getting too much money. I remember hearing an australian religious leader quoting another fake tory supporting red top story that all unemployed people were entitled to a free TV and laptop.

People actually believe all this crap about other lifes they know nothing about, because they read it in the papers. Yeah, the biased papers. Papers owned by a few wealthy gits with axes to grind.

Wasn’t this the 1950’s vision of a future paradise?

And there we have it.

If we keep to the same 19th century model of economies we will fail.
If an increasingly small number of people have an increasingly large amount of wealth and power there will be a revolution.
Billions are not going to be happy merely surviving on a pittance, whilst some live in unearned splendour.

The papers, yes, m and now of course privately owned TV, and Radio, (GBN, TalkRadio, etc) and now with YouTube etc it is even easier and cheaper for crap to be disseminated.

GBN is of course privately funded from Qatar.
I wonder why a non UK taxpayer chose to pay politicians more than their Parliamentary salary to appear on a loss making channel?

Is it really?

Legatum Limited , also known as Legatum , is a private investment firm, headquartered in Dubai, United Arab Emirates.[1] Legatum was founded in 2006 by Christopher Chandler. Legatum owns the British broadcaster GB News.[1]

GB News has it’s own offices in London. But follow the trail, to see who has control over it.

So how is Qatar, Dubai franglais?

My error.
Dubai it is.

Silly me.
For Qatar you turn left out of the GBN Office and, follow the A2 to Dover, and carry on for about 4,300miles.
For Dubai you need fuel for another 50 or so miles.

Yes silly you.

Do you not?
I thought everything you did said and thought was dictated to you.:joy:
Again …You knrw exactly what I meant, the whole covid panto x 2 lockdowns and all the rest of the over reaction lasted far too long.
As for vulnerable relatives…I kept away, other than doing a bit of shopping for them and dropping at the front door…, and I lived to tell the tale doing tactical extrene shopping in amongst all the danger.:joy:

Why would I feel the need to score points against YOU exactly…that is your game on here not mine.
I aint so insecure mate.

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Well, and which epidemiologist are you quoting there? Or is it Dr RR’s very own expertise shining through?
Or maybe the spin from a radio/TV/YT sponsored by…who?
Murdoch? Isolated from the world on a warm island, whilst his editors told all us plebs to get back to our crowded offices etc?

Speaking of Fishers, nah, fisherpersons, nah, fisherthems, oh bollox fishermen the picture below shows a 2500 tonne Dutch super trawler scraping the English Channel of fish over several days. Fully laden it’s heading back to port to unload. Meanwhile the 4 tonne camera fishing vessel can’t catch bluefin tuna because only 15 UK boats are allowed to according to EU rules. It is permitted to catch bass, but only up to a small quota which incidentally is less than the Dutch boat accidentally killed whilst fishing for other things in one day alone.

Today the prime minister ensured that this situation will continue through to 2038 calling it a win win! It’s certainly a win win for the
Dutch and the French. For the UK it’s an unmitigated disaster.

The above was posted by the skipper of a UK registered fishing vessel.

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It is exactly what it has been for the past 5 years, as negotiated by Johnson.

If you think his Brexit deal was an unmitigated disaster? I find it hard to argue against that.

A 2,500ton vessel will have more by-catch than a 4ton vessel is allowed?
Who could have predicted that?