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OUT OF HOURS BULLY'S TRUCKSTOP BAR (INTERACTIVE)
6035

Thank you…I do my best.:smiling_face_with_sunglasses:

And enhanced by yourself in your own inimitable way I notice, by as ever you choosing to find an unintended interpretation for effect, and one to suit yourself and your never ending agenda, to try and convince us all that your pi55 poor pathetic lefty way is the way to go.
Keep it up…and congratulate your brain washers for their success.
But enough of my ..‘‘Lovely Phraseology’’…
I’ll put it in one easy sentence…
You knew EXACTLY what I meant…■■■■ !

(You should also be ashamed of yourself for defending that murderous piece of sh. however tenuously you did it.)

6036

Go on then…where and when have I defended any murderer?
Tenuously or otherwise.

6037

Butting in here for a second, I for one certainly ain’t defending Farage, Starmer, Trump, Putin, Biden, or Mrs Robinson. Not sure which one you refer to.
Can we all agree that unless we use clear words and phrases that support some murdering scumbag, that we’re not, just because we may or may not defend or support the group that the murdering pustule of a scumbag also happens to either belong to, or identify with.

We’re all human

Seriously. We need to be careful on a public forum where our words night be taken out of context and used against us to send us untried to Starmer’s or Trump’s latest gulag. We wouldn’t want anyone mistaking us for a hotbed of far right extremist fascist noddies. We’re all intelligent and can make better sentences to express our dismay at the failings of various political leaders like Starmer and Trump.

And as for the violent scumbags up and down the country, the rapists, murderers, child molesters etc etc. Surely to high heavens we are agreed that they are the lowest of the low. Do we really need to preface each and every argument about immigration, war, benefits or whatever, with some sort of declaration, an Orwellian 2 minutes of hate.

And if we commit the mistake of making a bigger point about the ethnicity of a criminal, we’re actually failing our own children. Because, we risk teaching them that only some types of people commit specific crimes, when we all know, we really do know that criminals, whether abusers, rapists, murderers or whatever come from every section of society. You can hardly call randy andy a recent immigrant can you? Politicians of every creed have been caught doing wrong over the years. Teachers, doctors, police, scout masters. And more recently the public’s eye has been opened to the female perp. So by telling children to watch out for that dodgy looking dark skinned geezer, they risk been attacked by a white woman. Never mind about all the catholic nuns that systematically abused children, vulnerable orphaned or abandoned children entrusted into their care.

Or do some of you suffer from confirmation bias? You know when you subconsciously notice only the cases which confirm the specific bias you have but ignore any other cases that demonstrate cases involving people not highlighted on your hitlist? Or worse, imagine that when some otherwise decent white people are arrested, charged and convicted of some heinous crime, that it’s a setup, or that they have suffered two tier justice. Oh ffs, grow up about two tier justice, the facts speak for themselves, black defendants still get treated worse at every stage of the system. Facts, not opinions, not GB fake news or rather opinion pieces that get tweeted as news.
me back to bed zzzzzzzzz

6038

Rather different to the narrative from Starmer and co on the riots. No evidence of far right involvement, no evidence of far right thugs brought in from far and wide to stoke up tensions and yet not a squeak from Liebour on how they themselves spread malicious untruths to suit THEIR agenda.

6039

The emphasis of that part of the discussion was when you asked how we had been misled.
The situation with that murderer was pointed out to you when it was attempted to be played down by the govt, by referring to him as a choirboy with no terrorist tendencies or terrorist materials, or radical religion, the official narrative to which you as ever believed and have defended before.

So rather than focus on my attempt at humour to illilustrate that narrative, instead of refuting it you went into your smart arse mode trying to be clever.
So you obviously still believe the official narrative which essentially excuses him of his motives…terrorism.

If ever I was accused of even tenuously supporting an explanation or an excuse for a piece of sh like him, I’d be jumping on it.

6040

Just waded through the 99% word soup,.all I can say as far as watching out for myself…
You look after you and I will look after me, thanks for the life coaching, but dont call me I’ll call you (…never.)

6041

I’m calling bull on that; profiling is employed by every law enforcement body worldwide. It does not mean that they ignore those who don’t fit the profile.

Experience has taught me that both Uber and Addison Lee drivers are highly likely to do something stupid around my vehicle, that doesn’t mean that I disregard every other vehicle.

6042

you suffer with those idiots too huh

6043

Everyone in their orbit suffers with those idiots mate.

6044

That is over-interpreting the article.
It does not say there was “no evidence of far right involvement”.

It says “The police inspectorate found no conclusive evidence the disorder was co-ordinated by extremist groups”

6045

if you want to quote the article quote the article not the bit you think you can twist to support the offical narrative

The police inspectorate found no conclusive evidence the disorder was co-ordinated by extremist groups but said it was mostly incited by “disaffected individuals, influencers or groups” online.

A report published on Wednesday said most of those involved were local and the violence “was mainly unrelated to their ideology or political views”.

“Some of the main reasons for the widespread disorder were social deprivation, austerity and the economic downturn, political policies and decisions on migration and asylum, and decreasing trust and confidence in policing,” it said.

But although the causes were “complex”, the “overwhelming speed and volume of online content further fuelled its spread,” inspectors found.

■■■■ all about far right

6046

Just keep taking your tablets franglais😂

6047

So…why accuse me of that? On what evidence?
What have I said?

Have I pushed him being a choir boy? Have I said he had no terrorist tendencies?

I have said the Police stated he did not conform to the definition of terrorism and that Starmer had asked for an inquiry about whether the definition should be changed.

6048

So are you still saying the Southport atrocity had nothing to do with terrorism, let alone Islanic based terrorism.
Or did your lefty blinkers fall off for a minute and you saw the light…before hurriedlly replacing them of course after discovering you are constantly being connned.

6049

Yes. Which does not change my quote.

Exactly so…It does not rule out far right involvement which was @truckpro suggestion.

6050

you really are desperate to toe the offical line. there is no mention of far right because it wasnt far right. the far right had nothing to do with it. as stated in the article that you still refuse to address it was caused by the government policies of lying about him being a welsh choir boy. when anyone with a brain cell knew it was a terrorist attack. and dont bother saying but he wasnt charged as a terrorist. the reason he wasnt was because it would of made the government look even more foolish and given credence to what everyone was saying and has been saying for the last 15-20 years

6051

Logic Class. Day 1, Lesson 1.
Absence of evidence, is not evidence of absence.

6052

clear statements are clear statements…

if i say this is a tomattoe i dont have to say it isnt a lemon a swede a wall a carrot a speaker a computer a keyboard a door etc etc etc

why because i told you it was a frigging tomatoe

6053

That was not a Gov lie.
He was a choir boy…But so what?

6054

and again you show your support for his actions by perpetrating the lie just like you support sex offenders and the ■■■■ of young girls

you sir are disgusting
do not address me again