Nothing at all clear about your posts.
What “non-substance bravado”?
Maybe Starmer is blowing smoke into Trump’s orifices. If he is and the vain fool, gives us a better deal because of that, then well done Starmer. A freebie dinner in Buck House is a small price to pay if we get a good deal.
Can you not grasp it yet ffs man ??
I am all for Starmer getting a good deal for our country despite the fact that I hate HIM and the Labour Party in it’s present form.
Unlike yourself I aint got a fixation nor obsession about it, that makes me bitter and twisted …Trump, Johnson, TR/YL et all, which makes me prioritise that hatred over everything else.
Yeah only to you in your deliberate obtuseness.
He was all for giving it large about Trump in his speeches…would not have him in his house for dinner and such b/s.
But in real life actually meeting up he was a snivelling weasel…false bravado a bit like yours.
Does that make my post '‘clear’ now for you.
you really cant deal with anything negative about starmer can you. if you cant find some piece of propaganda to back up your arguments you pretend to be thick… a typical lefty hypocritical tactic btw. something you claim to despise.
2016
He went on to call comments made by Mr Trump “absolutely repugnant,” adding that “for me, his views edge towards treating a whole community as a suspect community.
“Of course I would not want to have Donald Trump round for dinner to express his views,” he added
The years following Trump’s election in 2016 saw Sir Keir continue to take digs at the president, both in Jeremy Corbyn’s shadow cabinet and as leader of the opposition.
In June 2018, he tweeted: “Humanity and dignity. Two words not understood by President Trump,” referring to footage of children detained in cages at US immigration centres.
The following year, he said: “An endorsement from Donald Trump tells you everything you need to know about what is wrong with Boris Johnson’s politics.”
the ginger nightmare
Ms Rayner has been openly critical of Mr Trump on multiple occasions in posts shared on X.
During the Capitol Hill riots in 2021, she tweeted: “The violence that Donald Trump has unleashed is terrifying, and the Republicans who stood by him have blood on their hands.”
Later that same month, following Joe Biden’s inauguration as president, Ms Rayner expressed her relief and optimism, writing: “I am so happy to see the back of Donald Trump, but even more so to see @KamalaHarris as VP.”
abbot after her sex change…
In 2017, Mr Lammy called Mr Trump a “racist and KKK/neo-Nazi sympathiser”.
A year later, the Tottenham MP wrote in Time magazine that he would be protesting against the then government’s “capitulation to this tyrant in a toupee”, referring to Mr Trump’s first official visit to the UK.
“Trump is not only a woman-hating, neo-Nazi-sympathising sociopath,” Mr Lammy wrote, “he is also a profound threat to the international order that has been the foundation of Western progress for so long.”
maybe if you had taken that second you saved on the other thread by typing “2morrow” and done some research you wouldnt look the fool
incidentally all three of the most senior members of the labour party have flip flopped on their attitudes something that you claim is a mark for being untrustworthy and a liar. therefore unless you are a hypocrite you should treat them with the same contempt for your imagined issues with johnson
@cooper1203 and @robroy
OK I see what you mean and you do have a point.
Starmer and the rest of Labour have no love for Trump as a man nor as a leader. When in opposition they are free to speak the truth.
When in power they should be more guarded and speak for the good of the country as a whole not just their own party stance.
Are they lying to or misleading Parliament or the UK public? No.
Is Starmer rolling over and telling Trump he is right about everything? No.
But when he opposes Trump’s ideas he does so in less colourful language. Diplomacy is normal even if we don’t like the necessity of it.
And since we are mentioning Brexit in relation to the new India and (not yet clear) US deals let’s look at a few figures. The headline costs of Brexit — UK Trade and Business Commission.
Brexit has cost the UK about 5% in GDP as of 2024.
The Aus NZ deals stand to make the UK 0.01% of gdp in over many years.
The India deal aboiut 0.1%
The US deal looks like putting us back to where were this time lasty year.
The deals we have made post Brexit come nowhere near repairing the economic damage done by Brexit.
Why do Brexiteers cheer and whoop for every new trade deal no matter how small and distant, when we gave away a huge one right on our doorstep? Mad.
We gave away a fat pheasant in our hands, and have successfully grasped 3 other birds. All of them underfed sparrows.
So what your saying is its ok to be two faced when it suits your mates.
yes repeatedly the indian deal is one example.
yes he is rolling over and giving up his “principles” he has the option to stand up and say im not going to trade with you until you do x y or z
if someone is absolutely disgusting or a neo nazi that you despise stand by your statements.
An example. if i say something that you disagree with would you have more respect for me if i was hypocritical about it or would you think i was using my right hand too much?
your beloved eu has stoped people joining because of their human rights in their country or some other issue they disagree with, So are you saying they should of let turkey for example join if they promised to be good? or do you think they were right in saying go away and sort out xyz then you can join.
His first duty is to the country as a whole.
Would you prefer him to cut off all UK trade with the US because he doesn’t like Trump’s stance on Gaza?
Grow up!
at least he would have a back bone…and if i agreed with him about trump i wouldnt want to deal with him there is the rest of the world. there is nothing that america produces that isnt available else where and there is nothing we produce that other countries dont want. something that the moaning minies that are blaming everything on trump fail to grasp
In typical Lefty style you claim to know much better and much more than anybody else who has a different pov..
Newsflash mate…
You know the far end of f.all about it like the rest of us,.apart from what they try, and in your case succeed, to convince us.
Any chance you can rely that to Starmer and the rest of the incompetent shower of s**t we’ve had since last July!
Who tf is cheering and whooping exactly.
The only noise I hear are you and the rest of the bleaters STILL moaning on about it.
As I have told you countless times the rest of us just keep our heads down and get on with the way it has bern interpreted and inplemented by those doing the organisation of it with an agenda for us all turn against it.
As for the deal that was on our doorstep, it was the cluster ■■■■ of grief, cost and problems that went with it that was wrong
Obviously you aren’t aware of the Southport terrorist atrocity last year or the Muslim r4pe gangs scandal then?
Of course I am aware of those issues.
Has anyone in this Government mislead or lied to the public or Parliament?
Yes. I just cited 2 examples of this government doing exactly that with Southport and the Muslim r4pe gangs. Of course it’s much easier to just play dumb when it’s not what you want to hear.
Nooooo
A Welsh choirboy with no terrorist tendencies…and definitely NOT a Moslem.
I personally believe ALL of that.
All a misunderstanding …the ricin was in fact ‘rice pudding’ and it was not a copy of the KORAN, it was a record by DURAN DURAN.
How to tell when Kipper Starmer is lying…his lips move.
Kipper = 2 faces no guts.
Nah it’s only Boris who tells lies…apparently. 
Looks like Franglais is sitting this one out … rather than admit he got this one wrong!
Either that or he believes what I just said rather than the truth…
He’s maybe a bit confused and actually thinks that I am quoting the official version of the events put out by Starmer 
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So he’s hardly likely to question it now is he? 
Lovely bit of phraseology.
Just as good as the Kelly Anne Conway’s “alternative facts”.
