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Starmer and this Labour government will be defined by their first 3 months in charge last summer, the Southport cover up, winter fuel allowance scandal and denying free speech by locking up people for social media posts stand out.

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bloody disaster if you ask me. Or wake up call to charmer starmer. I don’t think the tories are actually as bothered as they pretend about been thrashed silly, losing as many councils, mayoraltys and councillors across the country. Interesting though how the labour losses are matched by Green and Liberal gains, almost as if it’s the traditional tory voters who have switched to reform, rather than labour voters on mass. But obviously we can’t be certain about which each voter actually did, just how the figures make it look though.

Labour need to have some long hard discussions with themselves and decide if it is starmer who is the liability, or if this blip can be weathered and corrected in time for the next election. Tories know they are more shafted than labour because reform politicians for starters are mostly ex tory, and if tory voters have felt that the tory party under the last 3 leaders has failed to achieve even basic aims, then fartage is laughing all the way to the bank as he knows from the example trump is setting, that he only needs to dogwhistle and not actually deliver on promises.

Disappointing that the communist party also got wiped out though. Oh well, I’ll just drown in my sangria until it runs out. Tomorrow is a new day. Reform on Tuesday will have to start the mammoth task of cutting costs, delivering on promises, keeping their voters happy, and avoiding their new toys from going bankrupt. Good luck on that, they’re probably actually seriously stuffed and won’t stand a chance of balancing the books, and keep the voters happy. Councils have to provide certain services by law, most councils have cut back on the “woke” projects as much as they can. So I await these magic bunny rabbits to start popping out of fartage’s top hat presently

Good comments Newlion.

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Smash the gangs was just a slogan to make it appear to joe public they actually cared or wanted to stop all this.

They scrapped the Rwanda scheme on day 1. Rwanda may have worked, it may not. But having no deterrent definitely won’t work! Even if they manage to smash a gang another will pop up in it’s place because it’s too lucrative for them financially. It’s pretty simply logic, if you have no illegals wanting to come here there is no opportunity for the gangs to profiteer

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The average rate to get across the channel is £6000 per passenger, the boats can hold 70 passengers, the gangs are making a tax free fortune, they can do five trips or more per day.

£420,000 per crossing.

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rwanda did work… they started running off to Ireland and the boats slowed down. What labour also did on day one was change the immigration law back so that people entering the country illegally can get asylum.

They have got a plan flood the place with illegals and retire to an island with all the back handlers.

Good money that!

In terms of illegall immigration the only thing that Starmer has ‘‘smashed’’ so far is the record for the number of these scumbags landing here willy nilly.successfully…(I feel some official stats from Comical Ali coming on giving me a detailed breakdown over the last 14 years pointing out how many came over when the Tories ran the same sh show…just to prove me wrong and make things appear more acceptable :roll_eyes:)

Also that new Reform mayor councillor whatever, and the msm interview designed to discredit her with racial connotations…:roll_eyes:
Can somebody enligjten me what exactly would be WRONG with providing just minimal accommodation in form of a tent for shelter, whilst providing food and drink?
Is that not the requirement of a ‘‘refugee’’…‘REFUGE’ ?
you would think a genuine refugee would be both relieved and delighted.
(I’m talking as if they were actually 'genuine refugees btw…not bogus ones with a hidden agenda).

Where does it say in whatever regulations that govern all this crap, that we have to fall over ourselve to provide second to none facilities and benefits?
Are other countries (who clearly do NOT do the same) covered by these same rules?

Here is a sensible and logical solution from Nigel (my hero :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:) Farage.
Let the actual govt and home office run the illegal immigrant situation and call the shots in our country, :flushed_face: …wow how radical eh? , instead of the present scenario…ie The ECHR and the lucrative lefty lawyers doing everything in their power to continue and ecacerbate the problem…we are a small island ffs,.we are FULL.

Here’s ‘‘Herbert off you tube’’ (and ‘‘Karen’s mate’’ :grin:…morning Franglais :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:) giving his own personal take on the Islamic culture…admittedly a bit biased and negative, hut just go with it for the purpose of the discussion.

Setting aside the usual 2 tier aporoach to Islamists and Christians on the streets promoting their beliefs for starters…(neither of which groups I personally have any time for btw…both religious 'kin nut jobs in my book)
When you consider that the vast majority of these scumbags who arrive here illegally, subscribe to that primitive culture, it kinda gives an insight into what was discussed on here previously about sex offences by these people, …and the evident and blatant disegard they have for our laws and our women when they settle here…

It also gives an insight into the warped sick minds of the Asian r4pe gang animals.

Now this vid is going to have our lefties undoubtedly clutching at their pearls and crown jewels,.and I can virtually hear the shouts of ‘‘racist’’ being aimed at me for posting it.:joy:
However it has got to the stage now from my pov, that those sort of reactions by those SORT of people assure me that I am right…
So cheers in advance bring it on.:grin:

There’s numerous videos out there of protest marches when someone asks one of the protesters would you take a refugee or failed asylum seeker in to your home and everyone replies with an excuse of they have no room or can’t do it.

If the application for asylum has been rejected and refused by the government, they are still entitled to what’s on offer such as free legal aid, housing/accomodation, spending money, £300 maternity grant, driving lessons or a grant to pay for lessons and the test fee, the full list is available on the government website.

Is the UK the only country to do this?

Well done to Premier Inn.

In a different hotel the comedian Jim Davidson booked a hotel online for an evening event, on arrival he saw shoes left outside the bedroom doors, he cited he was not told the premises was an accommodation provider for our cross channel dingy hoppers so he refused to stay there and got a full refund, he said they could have warned him on their website prior to making a booking.

The question is, would stay in a hotel with them or not, would you be concerned if you had teenage daughters, I certainly would be?

This ^^^^ is exactly why voters are rejecting both Tories and Labour!

Despite voter “revolts” in Britain, across the EU and across the Atlantic the chattering classes still maintain that it’s “just a protest vote” and maintain that the electorate will soon learn to behave and vote the “correct” way. It’s the patronising and condescending attitude that is making these politicians unelectable. The public have spoken numerous times now and voiced their discontent yet are still seemingly being ignored and treated like errant children who need to be shown the correct way by the grown ups.

The truth is that the majority of people are prepared to put up with lying and cheating politicians and their pet projects right up to the point where it becomes an issue that threatens the voters actual way of life. We’ve long ago reached that point with our scummy WEF backed politicos who not only allow but actively encourage an invasion by stealth on a daily basis, coupled to things like that idiot Millibands net zero drive. Yet they still bleat that “they didn’t understand what they were voting for”.

Yes we bloody well did! For too long the liberal elite have had a disproportionately large say in the lives of ordinary people who want nothing more than to work, feed their families and sleep securely in their beds at night.

The social engineering experiment is over, the voters have spoken and will continue to speak until politicians listen and until liberal pant4e wetters are consigned to the dustbin of history!

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What I’d like to know is at what point do the lefty welcome all illegals brigade actually come to their senses and say enough is enough the country cannot cope. Or are they so entrenched in their brainwashed state of mind that numbers have absolutely no relevance to their “we are open to all and sundry, come on in”.

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With the ultra politically sensitive scandal of the Muslim Grooming Gangs made up of pedo’s, this Liebour minister dismisses the seriousness of it.

An apology tendered so everthing is all hunky dory!

they dont land here they get escorted by the french navy to just into international waters then they call up the british coastguard and we bring them the rest of the way. After we have given the navy their life jackets back of course.

there are no official stats to prove you wrong
1/1/18 to 30/4/18 there were 7 illegals
1/1/19 to 30/4/19 there were 279 illegals
1/1/20 to 30/4/20 there were 1,023 illegals
1/1/21 to 30/4/21 there were 2,113 illegals
1/1/22 to 30/4/22 there were 6,691 illegals
1/1/23 to 30/4/23 there were 5,946 illegals
1/1/24 to 30/4/24 there were 7,567 illegals
1/1/25 to 30/4/25 there were 11,074 illegals

that is an increase of 158,200% compared to 2018, an increase of 3,969% compared with 2019, an increase of 1,082% compared to 2020, an increase of 524% compared to 2021, an increase of 165% compared to 2022, an increase of 186% compared to 2023 and lastly an increase of 146% compared to last year.

i cant when there was a fire in london last week (another power station) the residents of a block of flats that was damaged were put up in a sports hall along side everyone else. all they got was basic sustenance. didnt get a tent with privacy they were all jammed in one big room with a cot and a blanket. If that is acceptable and everyone organizing it is praised then to me a tent with privacy is a step up.

they are governed by the same rules they just ignore them and no one says anything. but they are the first to shout if the uk breaks the rules.

When Liebour were elected they practically promised to do wonders and 54it cucumbers…