Yeah as you say…‘quite rightly’…(something we actually agree on.)
Presumably because the authorities that be accepted and fully recognised that they ARE in fact genuine bonafide ‘‘refugees’’ …in the true definition.
So bearing that in mind, and with your use of the.. ‘‘quite rightly’’ , does that say that the authorities, and on a much lesser extent, you, do not fully accept nor believe they actually ARE refugees after all.
If they did accept that, surely the same criteria used for the Ukranians would apply…or am I missing something here?
i still want to know how illegals can go on holiday it where ever they came from with no documentation and if the home office can supply the documents why they dont send them back
Dont know about you but I know of people and places where I could get a false passport, birth certificate driving licence (like mine)…(joking ) or just about any document made up within a few days…for the right price.
Most of these guys are criminals so they will sure as hell know themselves.
I am not sure what you mean here, but…
Ukraine is a country at war, it is clearly an unsafe place, and it’s citizens will most likely all qualify for refugee status.
Is that clear enough?
I think that the UK sets it’s own standards and markers for accepting or not someone’s right to claim refugee status.
I think that some countries are inherently more dangerous than others, so it is easier and quicker to sort out someone’s claim.
Ukrainians will be normally quickly (I hope) be offered some sort of safe haven.
Those from other countries will take more investigation of course.
i have never needed to find out… however im sure a quick word with a friendly forigner would source the info. However in the video you posted it said he was given the documents by the home office… so my question to the fountain of knowledge that dodged your question is how come.
Ok but by your take they are like the Ukranians, genuine refugees fleeing an unsafe place,.and/or a country at war …
So the authorities do not believe, or are keeping an open mind when the scroungers use a claim of being refugees as a cover story ?.., being that they do not apply the sane standard, or criteria to said scroungers.
In plain speaking if they believed that lie they would be treated in the same way as the Ukranian genuine refugees.
Yeah so do I…just let them all stay, much easier and less hassle.
Poverty and various sh.hole type countries…ie ILLEGAL ‘‘economic migrants’’, with a view to disrespectfully ignoring our culture and laws,.and applying their own pi55 poor standards, and criminality over here.
We have become the international dustnbin for ‘human trash’.
Tbh mate being branded a racist , or far right,… or whatever by these pathetic woke clowns no longer bothers me…In fact quite bizzarelly I take it as a kind of ‘‘compliment’’ from them,…knowing they have felt the need to go to the lefty default accusations because they are pi55ed off with me.
I have no need nor will, to justify myself to any of them.
I sit safe in the knowledge that I know my own mind and character, and that anyone who actually knows me would vouch for me and refute antlything said about me by these poor deluded individuals.
Who are “they”? Asylum seekers are from loads of different countries. They are not all from one place.
Some are genuine, some are not.
I have repeatedly said that they should all be processed asap, and those who qualify allowed to work and to contribute to the UK and pay taxes etc, and those who do not qualify should be deported asap.
I don’t understand that?
The UK sets a standard of proof of risk to a person.
If they are at risk at home they qualify for asylum.
I don’t see how different standards can be applied to genuine/scroungers until after you know if someone is genuine/scrounger? Is that what you mean?
That was almost what the Johnson Gov under Patel and Braverman was doing.
Employing fewer officials, so that all applicants were being housed and not sorted out to stay or be deported. Money then went to those who had buildings, security, food etc suppliers. A nice steady earner for many with Gov contracts.
ummm i wasnt calling you racist, however i do actualy feel a little left out… you are a lot more tollerant of them than i am in some ways yet apparently although im worthy of being called a nazi im not worthy of the title of racist.
We can’t ask the British taxpayer to write a blank cheque to cover the costs of anyone who might want to come and live here.
Uncontrolled immigration creates unmanageable demands on our NHS and our welfare state, it overstretches our local schools, our housing and public transport, and creates unsustainable pressure to build on precious green spaces.
Nor is it fair on those who are seeking to come here legally, if others can just bypass the system.
It’s a striking fact that around seven out of ten of those arriving in small boats last year were men under 40, paying people smugglers to queue jump and taking up our capacity to help genuine women and child refugees.
This is particularly perverse as those attempting crossings, are not directly fleeing imminent peril as is the intended purpose of our asylum system.
They have passed through manifestly safe countries, including many in Europe, where they could – and should – have claimed asylum.
It is this rank unfairness of a system that can be exploited by gangs, which risks eroding public support for the whole concept of asylum.
That is why we are passing the Nationality and Borders Bill, which allows us for the first time to distinguish between people coming here legally and illegally, and for this distinction to affect how your asylum claim progresses and your status in the UK if that claim is successful.
The UK and Rwanda Migration and Economic Development Partnership[a] was an immigration policy proposed by the governments of Boris Johnson,…
from a lefty website…
Let’s be frank: the next Government has a huge task ahead to rebuild our refugee protection system. Boris took a wrecking ball to it and, following the Nationality & Borders Act passing in April, now we have the anti-refugee laws which mark a dark moment in British history
looks like even the leftys disagree with you on that one…
well i only know you from your postings on here we dont speak outside of the forum… however i have no reason to belive you are misrepresenting yourself and assume that your statements on here are accurate.
Like the man says..‘Fat lot of good it will do’’ as far as a Labour govt is concerned, but maybe at least it will show that not everybody automatically accepts but disagrees with all their sh.
Spin it any way you want in your deluded, closed mind, fingers in ears default setting if it makes you feel better! Fact remains that those that continue to come here illegally do so because we are a soft touch and they know that, particularly “the gangs” that profit from this stuff that 2 tier Kier is going to “smash” apparently.
The same rubbish repeated by politicians and their followers does not count as evidence.
As already said, repeating something, again and again, does not make it a fact.
What evidence do you have that the UK gives more to asylum seekers?
Or is it a blind faith in what politicians tell you? Karen-offa-facebook? Rumour?
more evidence that labour have lied about school fees even if they get their predicted amount 20,000 more than we were told they break even.
you know the investigation into ■■■■ gangs… that we all knew would exonerate the perpertrators and the guilty in labour well they have surpassed themseves they have dropped it.
what have they done with the money… have they used it to set up some sort of protection… nope. Have they dispursed it to schools… nope. Have they dispursed it to the nhs… nope they have given it to 5 labour stronghold councils.
) or just about any document made up within a few days…for the right price.
