Police research into Lay-by parking

lets be very clear here, in bold so even the most cynical of you can understand, the OP has satisfied the team that he is genuine, He is asking for valid opinion on one problem, I strongly suggest that you keep to constructive responses, those who continue to make our industry look like brain dead morons, simply because they find it funny will find that the TruckNet open learning course available to them, you know the one where every post you make is examined before it appears in public - we are happy to provide this service free of charge to any member who finds they cannot post in an adult manner

I’ve just deleted 3 posts, like I said before if you want to continue to bang on about trolling take it to the feedback forum, this thread is not for highjacking.

Sent from my mobile.

Honestly lads, the admin and mods have posted, they have access to email headers and if they are satisfied that’s good enough for me.

But it’s irrelevant really as it’s not about the OP it’s about the subject matter, if it interests you give an opinion.

Has this forum been so badly raped that now everyone is suspicious of new posters, if that’s the case then the trolls have had a huge victory.

Back in the day trolling was an art form now it’s more like lame spam.

So in this case the topic interests me the identity of the OP isn’t important. Eventually their true motives if any will become clear.

@Sarge… Hope you stick around, surely your social media training will have taught you to wade through the poop to find the golden nuggets. One paragraph you’ve wrote doesn’t sit right but I’ll over look it for now… :wink:
Kudos for taking time to answer the replies.

In relation to some of the roads,the sarg mentioned, contact the local RCC, if by your opening post, I would assume your out of Loughton on the M11? … speak to the SM RCC … or go to the HIghways England via correct channels … they will have the bye-laws for said lay-bys as some are not under Essex County council durastiction… thye can then sign post, or they can get the local HE units to call up the RCC, and pass on to the RPU on patrol and keep an eye out when they are parked up or turned around at junctions.

NODDING DONKEY - I have been on days off - regardless of the feelings on some on here, we work very hard and don’t have much time, even then I am checking and replying from home in my own time but have been busy the last few days so didn’t have time to get the laptop out (mobiles don’t lend themselves to long typed replies. You really do have an issue with me don’t you, despite the fact we have never met and I have been open and polite?

I have no problem with you. You are an anonymous poster on an internet forum, just like me. Anybody could post here, calli g themselves 'police sergeant ', and if you know whats been going on here the last year or so, you’d understand the suspicions. Seriously for a moment though. Most drivers here, me included, will have at some point been the victim of either having their trailer’s curtains slashed, or had their diesel stolen. The inevitable response from the police is, to do nothing ( I do realise you have budget constraints, but that does not fix our curtains, nor get us to the nearest services), and post signs telling us that thiefs are operating. I’m not condoning some of the anti police sentiments ( my dad was a lifer in the Netherlands. He’s been spat at, kicked at, shot at (at least he could shoot back) , pulled remains from under a train. He really was involved in the action at the Embassy (a topical reference that some may understand )), but you can not expect us to jump up and be pals when you start about parking in laybys.

Thanks Discoman, I have checked and as far as I can find out there aren’t any relevant bye laws for the affected areas.

To try and put the trolling stuff to bed - surely if ii was trolling I would be arguing with people, provocative and trying to stir up reactions? I have done none of that and don’t intend (or have any need) to post any other topics, I also haven’t even accessed yet alone read any of the other topics or boards.

Admin - feel free to email me on my @essex.pnn.police.uk address I supplied and I will answer (working the next 3 days) to further prove I am who I say (nobody faking an email would have access to Police domains)

Nodding Donkey, I’m not here to try and defend Police responses to trucker issues as I’m sure many on here will see it as insufficient and unsatisfactory, just as we provide a rubbish service for lots of other crimes like burglary but as we have lost over 24,000 officers (around 700 in Essex) and a similar number of civvie staff who were doing some of our admin to keep us out we are left chasing our tails - there simply isn’t enough of us :frowning:

Your post above seems reasonable so I imagine you accept this, but I can assure you we do patrol areas vulnerable to diesel/load thefts as mentioned above, with laps of the A127 and A12 at night when we can as well as the industrial estates - we LOVE catching these scum, however we are usually called away to a job.

I promise we do all we can and are as frustrated with what we can do as the public are :frowning:

It is interesting to get some input and insight from Police.

I think a lot of forum users would welcome further posts on the issues that vex you, and how we, as road users, can help. Also, from other areas too.

Although I do slightly take exception to being referred to as a ‘trucker’, with all the negative connotations that brings. There is a minority who consider themselves professional drivers and act accordingly.

Rikki-UK:
It amazes me that so many members here moan that they are not listened too, when they are asked to comment on new rules. they choose to show dance, rather than engage, looking at some of the posts in this thread its no wonder your opinion isn’t asked- because your behaving like arses. If you cant be a grown up for at least a few moments then don’t post.

That’s what you get for knowingly allowing multiple account users to troll the forum baiting members. Even the moderators on here won’t say if this guy is genuine or not, they just skirt around the question like normal… but site traffic is healthy and that’s what matters.

Rentadent:
Even the moderators on here won’t say if this guy is genuine or not

Really :question: - then what is this …

Rikki-UK:
the OP has satisfied the team that he is genuine,

What about this on Page 1, it could have all been confirmed right from the off instead of using vague comments and smileys.

dieseldave:
A fair concern and for the very reason you gave FD, so let’s just say that a work’s email address was used. :wink:

EssexTrafficSgt:
WINSEER - re my previous post, maybe some members on here are aware of the fuel thefts from a foreign HGV pulling alongside several HGVs on the A12, before, on and after the Mountnessing roundabout a few weeks ago. I was the officer who photographed then moved (about 30m, in a slow line very slowly and cautiously!) the suspect vehicle.

DROVER - i’m not, but know it happens and these mobile bill boards are left there far longer

EAGERBEAVER - thanks for your contribution, very gown up of you - feel free not to call us if you ever get attacked/have a crash/family member goes missing/get burgled etc. (cue the “i wouldn’t any as you’re all useless” reply…)

ADONIS - perhaps reflect on what they says about you (really glad I came on here with a genuine motive to actually help its members)

PLERROT 14 - this would be for the council/Highways to clear

NODDING DONKEY - I have been on days off - regardless of the feelings on some on here, we work very hard and don’t have much time, even then I am checking and replying from home in my own time but have been busy the last few days so didn’t have time to get the laptop out (mobiles don’t lend themselves to long typed replies. You really do have an issue with me don’t you, despite the fact we have never met and I have been open and polite?

MARTIN - I checked on my mobile, saw there was a lot to respond to so waited until I could log on properly

QUINNY - I have nothing to prove and the site manager is happy I am genuine, I don’t imagine I will be posting any further topics (no predicted need and from the responses, I don’t anticipate hanging around)

I wouldn’t call you. Wouldn’t want to disturb any of you lot. Pretending not to see a Tesco mgr grappling with a shoplifter (4 of you tossers in a car drive past & yet nobody sees it?). Only one ■■■■■■ gets kicked out! Lying corrupt police.

Some of you would be too busy spying on women sunbathing in their gardens when they are supposed to be using the police helicopter responsibly.

Maybe you are all too busy letching after drunk girls outside pubs & nightclubs.

You lot are a disgrace. So no, I wouldn’t call you.

There, do you feel better now, Beaver? And drivers wonder why we all get tarred with the same "stupid speeding bridge-bashing moron"tag. Big man slagging off nasty copper. ■■■■■■■■■

EssexTrafficSgt:
Thanks Discoman, I have checked and as far as I can find out there aren’t any relevant bye laws for the affected areas.

To try and put the trolling stuff to bed - surely if ii was trolling I would be arguing with people, provocative and trying to stir up reactions? I have done none of that and don’t intend (or have any need) to post any other topics, I also haven’t even accessed yet alone read any of the other topics or boards.

Admin - feel free to email me on my @essex.pnn.police.uk address I supplied and I will answer (working the next 3 days) to further prove I am who I say (nobody faking an email would have access to Police domains)

If I recall correctly, he highways England formerly HA, had the powers under the 2004 act to remove said vehicles obstructions if they were indeed obstruction said areas.

More on this link.

gov.uk/government/organisat … r-services

If not, Why don’t you use section 99 of the RTA if as above you feel they are causing that obstruction … there was a rumour the HE officers were going to patrol the A roads … they have powers to remove vehicles also as mentioned above, I am no longer resident in the UK but I recall the rumours about it …

The Sarge:
There, do you feel better now, Beaver? And drivers wonder why we all get tarred with the same "stupid speeding bridge-bashing moron"tag. Big man slagging off nasty copper. [zb].

Get your tongue out of his arse ffs :unamused:

If you don’t like my comments best thing to do is dry your eyes and ignore them.

I don’t like coppers. Plenty of them are corrupt. Why don’t you do a quick Google search. Start off with ’ policeman jailed '…

eagerbeaver:

The Sarge:
There, do you feel better now, Beaver? And drivers wonder why we all get tarred with the same "stupid speeding bridge-bashing moron"tag. Big man slagging off nasty copper. [zb].

Get your tongue out of his arse ffs :unamused:

If you don’t like my comments best thing to do is dry your eyes and ignore them.

I don’t like coppers. Plenty of them are corrupt. Why don’t you do a quick Google search. Start off with ’ policeman jailed '…

And someone somewhere will be googling ‘HGV crash mobile phone’ or ‘HGV driver ploughs into back of school bus having driven for 23 hours’.

In terms of percentages, we all have idiots in our respective professions. I try and speak to people politely as I find them, not because of the failures of other members of their profession.

discoman:

EssexTrafficSgt:
Thanks Discoman, I have checked and as far as I can find out there aren’t any relevant bye laws for the affected areas.

To try and put the trolling stuff to bed - surely if ii was trolling I would be arguing with people, provocative and trying to stir up reactions? I have done none of that and don’t intend (or have any need) to post any other topics, I also haven’t even accessed yet alone read any of the other topics or boards.

Admin - feel free to email me on my @essex.pnn.police.uk address I supplied and I will answer (working the next 3 days) to further prove I am who I say (nobody faking an email would have access to Police domains)

If I recall correctly, he highways England formerly HA, had the powers under the 2004 act to remove said vehicles obstructions if they were indeed obstruction said areas.

More on this link.

gov.uk/government/organisat … r-services

If not, Why don’t you use section 99 of the RTA if as above you feel they are causing that obstruction … there was a rumour the HE officers were going to patrol the A roads … they have powers to remove vehicles also as mentioned above, I am no longer resident in the UK but I recall the rumours about it …

That certainly happens in Wales. I live alongside the main A40; between the dual carriageway and my hamlet is the old road which still comes under the jurisdiction of the Highways Agency even though it’s now effectively a cul-de-sac. I once had a car for sale, parked it on the old road so that it could be seen from the dual carriageway, with price and contact phone number on windscreen. Received a call from an officous HA manager a couple of days later saying that was illegal because it might distract a driver and cause an accident, and told to move it. Neighbour had similar when he sold a caravan.

Funny how they’re not so bloody particular when we ask them to grit that access road though. :imp:

eagerbeaver:

The Sarge:
There, do you feel better now, Beaver? And drivers wonder why we all get tarred with the same "stupid speeding bridge-bashing moron"tag. Big man slagging off nasty copper. [zb].

Get your tongue out of his arse ffs :unamused:

If you don’t like my comments best thing to do is dry your eyes and ignore them.

I don’t like coppers. Plenty of them are corrupt. Why don’t you do a quick Google search. Start off with ’ policeman jailed '…

Every, profession has corruption it is a way of life … you can’t tarnish all with the same brush.

I suppose when pulled you give the same attitude as on here.

EssexTrafficSgt:
Nodding Donkey, I’m not here to try and defend Police responses to trucker issues as I’m sure many on here will see it as insufficient and unsatisfactory, just as we provide a rubbish service for lots of other crimes like burglary but as we have lost over 24,000 officers (around 700 in Essex) and a similar number of civvie staff who were doing some of our admin to keep us out we are left chasing our tails - there simply isn’t enough of us :frowning:

Your post above seems reasonable so I imagine you accept this, but I can assure you we do patrol areas vulnerable to diesel/load thefts as mentioned above, with laps of the A127 and A12 at night when we can as well as the industrial estates - we LOVE catching these scum, however we are usually called away to a job.

I promise we do all we can and are as frustrated with what we can do as the public are :frowning:

I’ve been reading this and keeping quiet up to now, maybe just to suss out if you are who/what you say you are.
So taking you on face value here goes…
What are your comments on this method of ‘‘Policing’’ I know it wasn’t in your area but see what you think as a copper.

It’s a while ago I know but I still get bloody mad thinking about it.
I parked at Knottingley ind est about 10 yrs ago (yeh I know :unamused: ) just off the old A1 which was still running then.
I had parked there numerous times before but on this night I got a ticket for…‘Parking without lights’’
Ok I know technically lights are supposed to be on, but thing is the ind est was lit up like ■■■■ daylight.

I was so ■■■■■■ off I actually rang the Police station from where the copper was based, and was told some official line crap like ‘‘What if a family had ran in the back of you’’ :unamused: thing is, I can’t speak for you, but personally I never see too many families touring industrial estates at night on a family outing.

I later found out there had been a lot of petty truck crime on that estate and this was the way the Police saw fit to deal with it, ie. ignore the criminal actions and nick the poor driver doing his job, raising a bit of revenue.
Now maybe I’ve watched too many episodes of ‘‘The Sweeney’’ but surely a couple of big coppers sat in the back of an unmarked Transit waiting for these scrotes would be a better method rather than their easy option, which imo equates to classic ‘‘■■■■ poor policing’’ :smiling_imp:

What are you thoughts and how would you and/or your force deal with a situation like this in a truck crime ‘hotspot’ ?
Cheers.

Janos:
It is interesting to get some input and insight from Police.

I think a lot of forum users would welcome further posts on the issues that vex you, and how we, as road users, can help. Also, from other areas too.

Although I do slightly take exception to being referred to as a ‘trucker’, with all the negative connotations that brings. There is a minority who consider themselves professional drivers and act accordingly.

Sorry Janos, no offence meant I know the majority of you are indeed professional drivers which is why we usually pick one of you as the point to implement a rolliing road block as apart from your size, you will know what’s going on and react accordingly