But still you let him slag off the police Diesel 
robroy:
Freight Dog:
robroy:
Freight Dog:
Thatâs true. Thereâs been finger pointing, insults, jackanory time about âwhen I called the policeâ, general winging about random other stuff.I donât think he came on here asking. âWhat do you think of the Police? Give me some stories you have? Whatâs your favourite colour? Iâm here for you to have a little moanâŚâ
He just asked about a parking problem on a stretch of road
. He even mentioned they wanted to help drivers.
Que âah thatâs not helping, you lot are xyz, winge, winge, moan moan, troll troll, time I needed police bla bla blaâ
You canât do anything with some people. Theyâre all mouths and no ears
Technically speaking they aint ââhelpingââ though are they?
Apart from maybe ââhelpingââ to perpetuate the crap and lack of overnight tramper parking facilities.
Fill every [zb] lay by up in the country with billboards for all I care, then there will be no option to park in these unsuitable unfit for purpose [zb] holes, and then, maybe, just maybe⌠then we will be provided with proper 21 century fit for humans parking facilities.If he really wanted to ââhelpââ, then why not try and instigate one of their famous ââpurgesââ on truck crime and diesel theftâŚ, but we all know that the criteria for said purges, prioritise on how much revenue can be raised, so that would be a non starter.
Some of you should get real and take the blinkers off I reckon.
Never mind blinkers. Some people should use a bit of common sense.
People were even decrying âoh, why would you want to sleep in a tin box in a lay-by anyway? Bla bla blaâ
Er? He didnât ask that did he? Again, all mouths no ears. Thereâs no point moaning at him about why drivers should sleep in lay-bys?? Talk about ranting to the open air. Take that to the employers, or people who approve and build truck parking, councillors, MPs, industry press. Not a lone copper.
Itâs winging at the wrong person. A sensible approach would be to answer the well meant questions or not. And take any relevant moans and winges to the correct people.
But no one does that. Everyone just likes to sit and moan in moaning club.
If thereâs ever a post on here about Public perception itâll have a cheek after this cluster [zb] of a thread.
If I went on âKent Nimby Neighbourhoodwatchnetâ as a trucker, asking what time they all went to bed so I could be sure not to disturb their sleep, by promising not to blow my airhorns in my ââThundering Juggernautââ ⌠I would expect to get stick.
Mainly because many inept truckers parking up outside their houses and churning up their grass in wt limit villages, and all the rest of the grievances, and by us doing more damage there than The Luftwaffe, has made us about as popular as scabies.
I would expect a copper coming on here among truckers, would maybe expect a similar type welcomeâŚwhat do you reckon.
I could take it on the chin being a big boy, as Iâm sure this copper can, and is, so I wouldnât be so concerned about hurting his feelings,and at least my posts were constructive, not to mention more tactful than some others
Thanks for your concern btw, but my common sense is in abundance thanks mate.
Mm. Ok. I donât think weâre going to see quite eye to eye on this one. Agree to disagree Job.
dieseldave:
eagerbeaver:
He is here to help himself. ONE company has ignored his " ticketfest " according to the OP.Hi EB,
Letâs just see whether Iâve understood⌠do you mean a company who has broken some law by leaving advertising trailers illegally blocking places in lay-byes that a truck driver could otherwise legally use?eagerbeaver:
So he has decided that court action is required because one particular company does not give a toss about his tickets. Thrown all his toys out of the pram and come on here asking for us to help with supporting evidenceLetâs see whatâs at issue here⌠thereâs a possibility that a company who is breaking the law and has ignored tickets can be subject to enforcement action by due process, which might include some background/supporting information gleaned from posters on TN.
Personally speaking, I thought thatâs what we pay the police/courts to do, so I canât see any problems with that.eagerbeaver:
Do it yourself copper, thatâs WHAT I PAY YOU TO DO.I respect your point, but if thatâs your attitude to it, then why not just scroll past and let him get on with it instead of having a meaningless snipe thatâs made no contribution to the topic?
Still respecting your view, I canât help but notice that it looks a little isolated.
This guy hasnât come on here because he wants to help us Dave. Yes, I understand that he has a job to do, and one company is causing him a headache (like I do for you on a regular basis 
), but he is here for his OWN ends.
Obviously if his agenda has a knock-on benefit for us then itâs not a bad thing. I also understand that a few bad apples donât mean that EVERY copper is bent, but thanks to the contributorâs who have posted that particular view, itâs an absolute revelation to me But the ONE non complying company with a handful of billboards wonât make sod all difference to our parking problems.
Like most on here I pay a significant amount of tax & NI. The police (for whatever reason) are failing the public miserably, and pointing out that WE pay for the police is not a snipe. Itâs a simple fact, and we as the public get CRAP value for money out of the coppers in my view. This guy spent an hour of his â valuable â police time on this forum earlier trying to get US to help him, and I donât agree that is the best use of his time.
Instead he should have got his arse into a patrol car and done some patrolling. Maybe get some LGV texters or maybe get some flip flops off the hard shoulder etc? Maybe sort some middle lane hoggers out? Maybe get some pricks to put their lights on in the dark? Maybe get some folks to sort their brake lights out instead of only having the tiny red one working at the top of their rear window?
If my view is â isolated â Dave, Iâm not too fussed mate. This forum is quickly becoming BlinkerNET UK. The professional forum for the permanently deluded.
I have it on good authority (Robroy told me) that the only uniform missing from Beavers extensive collection is in fact a police uniform! Could this be the key to his angst?
eagerbeaver:
dieseldave:
eagerbeaver:
He is here to help himself. ONE company has ignored his " ticketfest " according to the OP.Hi EB,
Letâs just see whether Iâve understood⌠do you mean a company who has broken some law by leaving advertising trailers illegally blocking places in lay-byes that a truck driver could otherwise legally use?eagerbeaver:
So he has decided that court action is required because one particular company does not give a toss about his tickets. Thrown all his toys out of the pram and come on here asking for us to help with supporting evidenceLetâs see whatâs at issue here⌠thereâs a possibility that a company who is breaking the law and has ignored tickets can be subject to enforcement action by due process, which might include some background/supporting information gleaned from posters on TN.
Personally speaking, I thought thatâs what we pay the police/courts to do, so I canât see any problems with that.eagerbeaver:
Do it yourself copper, thatâs WHAT I PAY YOU TO DO.I respect your point, but if thatâs your attitude to it, then why not just scroll past and let him get on with it instead of having a meaningless snipe thatâs made no contribution to the topic?
Still respecting your view, I canât help but notice that it looks a little isolated.
This guy hasnât come on here because he wants to help us Dave. Yes, I understand that he has a job to do, and one company is causing him a headache (like I do for you on a regular basis
Obviously if his agenda has a knock-on benefit for us then itâs not a bad thing. I also understand that a few bad apples donât mean that EVERY copper is bent, but thanks to the contributorâs who have posted that particular view, itâs an absolute revelation to me
Like most on here I pay a significant amount of tax & NI. The police (for whatever reason) are failing the public miserably, and pointing out that WE pay for the police is not a snipe. Itâs a simple fact, and we as the public get CRAP value for money out of the coppers in my view. This guy spent an hour of his â valuable â police time on this forum earlier trying to get US to help him, and I donât agree that is the best use of his time.
Instead he should have got his arse into a patrol car and done some patrolling. Maybe get some LGV texters or maybe get some flip flops off the hard shoulder etc? Maybe sort some middle lane hoggers out? Maybe get some pricks to put their lights on in the dark? Maybe get some folks to sort their brake lights out instead of only having the tiny red one working at the top of their rear window?
If my view is â isolated â Dave, Iâm not too fussed mate. This forum is quickly becoming BlinkerNET UK. The professional forum for the permanently deluded.
Your frustration is probably shared by stacks of people. I donât know how the Police work but Iâd imagine frustration is shared by some coppers too. I canât believe they have free reign to do what they exactly what they want. They probably have bosses, dictated how they work, heavy procedures, target driven areas of focus etc.
From talking to âex coppersâ who I work with they got wracked off with the targets and endless paperwork and procedures that hindered them doing stuff. Itâs one of those jobs youâll never please everyone. If they went out and picked on people with brake lights or hard shoulder parking thereâd be a thread somewhere on a motoring forum moaning they should be doing xyz
I donât think this guy is in a position to action all these frustrations. Far better angling this vehemence elsewhere.
One ex copper told me âI hated the job in the end, because 90 percent of the time you were dealing with nasty buggers, and when you met someone nice. It was to give them bad newsâ.
I try and stay objective. Iâve had some disappointing experiences, but also some good ones. But Iâm a realist.
Iâm not an arch criminal who absolutely detests the law of the land and have never had to leg it over a fence. So despite getting the odd ticking off when a youngster and sometimes lack lustre experience of help from the Police in my past, I still try and show respect for the face of the law. It was just the way I was âbrung upâ.
A combative approach might take that as a refusal to stick it to the man on issues. I donât. Thatâs not sticking it to the man, thatâs just moaning at the wrong people. I think if I start letting my self values go, jobs a downward spiralâŚ
Me personally, and I may very well be alone here, but if I or someone I care about is getting attacked or has just been robbed and someone has dialled 999 then iâm not going to be best pleased if I later find the police were delayed in attending because they stopped to ticket a Bulgarian lorry driver for taking his break on the hard shoulder. Its all about priorities. Even if they arent rushing on a 999, the hard shoulder is one of the most dangerous places to be and I dont really think its a big enough crime to justify risking life and limb to stop and discuss it with them. I sometimes think the police are damned if they do and damned if they dont
I know the police dont help themselves by claiming lack of resources and cuts then seem to find umpteen officers for a driving blitz so you could say theyre their own worst enemy in that respect but that could be said of any profession.
On this forum alone you hear many calls of inadequate parking and something needs to be done yet a guy comes on to ask for opinions about something that blocks the much needed space and he gets insulted, hounded and basically told to sling his hook.
The-Snowman:
Me personally, and I may very well be alone here, but if I or someone I care about is getting attacked or has just been robbed and someone has dialled 999 then iâm not going to be best pleased if I later find the police were delayed in attending because they stopped to ticket a Bulgarian lorry driver for taking his break on the hard shoulder. Its all about priorities. Even if they arent rushing on a 999, the hard shoulder is one of the most dangerous places to be and I dont really think its a big enough crime to justify risking life and limb to stop and discuss it with them. I sometimes think the police are damned if they do and damned if they dontI know the police dont help themselves by claiming lack of resources and cuts then seem to find umpteen officers for a driving blitz so you could say theyre their own worst enemy in that respect but that could be said of any profession.
On this forum alone you hear many calls of inadequate parking and something needs to be done yet a guy comes on to ask for opinions about something that blocks the much needed space and he gets insulted, hounded and basically told to sling his hook.
Not alone Snowman +1
Thing is and I have it from a very good source, a friend of mine, an ex copper in Manchester, who took early retirement, told me that the job HAS gone to pot. There are no actual different posts anymore, traffic, local bobby, etc, they are all part of one team. He was in traffic for some 15 years, he used to patrol the motorways of Gtr Manchester and surrounding areas. His presence was felt, he could be seen patrolling, a deterrent! That was his job, those that patrolled the towns and responded to calls, that was theirs. , He used to patrol and pull over lorries to take them to a weighbridge, catch speeding vehicles, assist with people broken down to protect them, they used to sit at those little parking slots on the motorway, watching always on duty, Things changed, the duties âto save moneyâ were to hang around at there base just off the M6 to save fuel, only going out for an incident on the motorway. Later things changed again, they stopped being âtrafficâ they were just policemen/women, no patrolling, they were part of the police, not a special team, very often he would be called to a robbery or fracas somewhere, to assist other officers, having to travel miles away from their base to get there, he even recently got his jaw smashed whilst trying to tackle some scrote in Manchester town centre.
Captain Caveman 76:
EssexTrafficSgt:
We do, frequently, however as with most other moans about us if someone like you doesnât see us do it, i.e. passing in the 20-30mins it takes then they assume we donât do it. Its the same for people moaning they never see Police cars patrolling their area - unless they happen to look at the window in the minute we are passing their house they assume we are never there.Also, when dealing with these we usually tuck in close at the front, to the nearside and without lights as we want to be subtle so as not to warn any others who pull in behind for a break meaning we get a 2 for 1 deal
We are well aware its a problem which is why all the multi-language metal signs went up at great expense, to support our enforcement and prevent the âi didnât knowâ excuse. We then use a VERY expensive telephone interpreter service for any foreign drivers and it takes 2 times as long as dealing with an English speaker but still quite simple and we still do it, the only difference being if they donât have a UK address they have to pay on the spot (usually ÂŁ100=3pts but can be ÂŁ30 only if they have only just stopped, or more if there are other infringements) and if they donât have a valid card (or canât get one from a boss) we take them to a cash machine or clamp them at J31 services until they can pay, with an additional ÂŁ80 on top.
The bridge at the top of the hill coming from J27 on the A track towards J28 (known as âSkinnersâ) is a common one and I have before had 5 at once - there were 3 in a row so I parked at the front and started at the back, in the time it took to deal with the 3 (plus payments and interpreters) another 2 had joined the party)
The main issue with all of this goes back to not being enough of us to patrol the motorways as we used to, with time to deal with these - usually we only see them when on our way to a RTC or other job (which wonât necessarily be on blue lights as it might be pressing, so we donât have time to stop but not urgent enough for a blue light run.
Interesting replies, thank you for taking the time. As former NOMS personal, I had to deal with the aftermath of your handiwork!
I do have one bug bear though, always have. Doing stupid things on the motorway is dangerous, I donât think anyone on here would argue that. But you state that you try and be discrete when dealing with bridge parkers. Surely, if itâs so dangerous, youâd leave your lights on to disuade others rather than wait until itâs too late and then ticket them? The same approach is taken to speeding. Catch them in the act than send them letter three days later rather than trying to deter them. I know you have an issue with resources, but a more visible presence on our roads would surely have a bigger impact on safety than a âticketfestâ?
I know Iâve gone a bit off topic, but this is a rare opportunity.
Cavey.
We continually get complaints from HGV drivers about this issue and often get calls/logged incidents reporting this which we are then asked to specifically respond to if available and several earlier posts on here inferred the same - the reason we move over and be subtle is to prevent someone who was intending on pulling in behind from seeing us and moving to another location when had they not seen us they would have pulled in illegally - this almost certainly wouldnât be their first time and they regularly do it hence wanting to actually deal with them for it as a deterrent, as seeing us and our lights would only deter them for that one occasion and not longer like a fine, potentially with points would (after all there are only so many points you can get before a ban, including foreign drivers).
eagerbeaver:
EssexTrafficSgt:
eagerbeaver:
Why is it every time you lot get criticised you wheel out the same wheelbarrow of crap?Police cutsâŚ
The reason the flip flops park under bridges is because you cannot be arsed to do anything about it. Iâve personally witnessed cops going past them on more than one occasion. Must have been on their way to a jobâŚ
Itâs also been mentioned on here about diesel theft. Fat lot of good a crime reference number is when youâve had a screwdriver through your tanks.
Pointless contacting you lot for anything, you never turn up. Yet you come on here asking for help
There is clearly no reasoning with you - to try and put it in an example you may understand how about you lose 15-20% of your drivers but are expected to deliver more loads? If you can take the chip off your shoulder and have a sensible conversation (preferably without the âflip flopâ comments) then Iâll try and answer any points as I have others.
I appreciate this has gone off topic, however other than a few helpful comments, for which I am grateful, the topic seems to have changed to I am either a troll (yet not actually doing anything trolls do), or I am in fact who I say I am so cue lots of moans about Police - to be honest life is too short, I knew I would get all the Daily Mail comments but really didnât expect it to be so overwhelmingly negative - I was genuinely trying to help but life it too short for all of this so iâll answer any posts after this over the weekend to allow for any Mon-Fri drivers who may actually contribiute then politely withdraw.
You donât need to wait until the weekend to hear from any Mon-Fri drivers.
I am one Poirot
And if I want to refer to somebody as a â flip flop ', (or any other description) I will. Didnât realise you ran this site
I was doing so from home in my own time, so thanks anyway for yet another assumption to try and have a pop, i also had my two kids running around and was using a very small keyboard hence any typos - Iâm sure every post you add on here is completely perfect grammatically.
ezydriver:
EssexTrafficSgt:
Also, when dealing with these we usually tuck in close at the front, to the nearside and without lights as we want to be subtle so as not to warn any others who pull in behind for a break meaning we get a 2 for 1 dealAllowing dangerous and illegal practice so as to fill the coffers? You were just begining to restore my faith in the police until you said that.
I have explained the reason in a previous reply - its so we can actually deal with those who do this regularly because they think rules donât apply to them and they should be allowed to park where they like, causing dangers and problems as i previously described. A visual deterrent would be like a verbal warning - completely pointless and not change their behaviour in the slightest other than stopping that one offence in that one area, for that one occasion only.
As for the money in the coffers reference, i really am sick of getting this flung at us so will add it very clearly here - THE POLICE DONâT GET ANY OF THE MONEY FROM FINE - NOTHING, NADA, ZIP - THE MONEY GOES DIRECT TO THE TREASURY AND ISNâT LINKED TO OUR BUDGETS IN ANY WAY OR ANY OTHER INCENTIVE. As officers we also get no bonus or performance related incentive either way (which is why some officers simply move them on without any ticket however that wonât provide any deterrent and they will be back again the next day.
So i can be absolutely sure, please confirm exactly what it is those of you who want us to deal with the parking under bridges want us to do - if you want us to catch and deal with them (rather than ârushing pastâ) then that is exactly what i have said, if you want us to just ask them politely to move on so as not to help the Gov coffers, then this is entirely pointless and will solve nothing.
eagerbeaver:
ezydriver:
EssexTrafficSgt:
Also, when dealing with these we usually tuck in close at the front, to the nearside and without lights as we want to be subtle so as not to warn any others who pull in behind for a break meaning we get a 2 for 1 dealAllowing dangerous and illegal practice so as to fill the coffers? And you were just begining to restore my faith in the police until you said that.
Correct. Sneaky, dangerous & illegal.
Pretty much sums them up
No, it just sums up your narrow view and opinion - how about i donât tell you how to do your job and you leave me to do mine? (sneaky yes, intentionally so but neither dangerous or illegal, which shows you know nothing)
eagerbeaver:
Not often you are wrong mate, but this guy isnât here to help us at all.He is here to help himself. ONE company has ignored his " ticketfest " according to the OP.
So he has decided that court action is required because one particular company does not give a toss about his tickets. Thrown all his toys out of the pram and come on here asking for us to help with supporting evidence
Do it yourself copper, thatâs WHAT I PAY YOU TO DO.
How have I thrown my toys out of my pram? Yes i did ask for supporting accounts and experiences if people had noticed or been affected by it (which it seems largely so far they havenât) which i could use to show the extent of the problem (or not) not only in any court case but also if applying for a Traffic Order to prevent it. Back to your Daily MailâŚ
eagerbeaver:
This guy hasnât come on here because he wants to help us Dave. Yes, I understand that he has a job to do, and one company is causing him a headache (like I do for you on a regular basisObviously if his agenda has a knock-on benefit for us then itâs not a bad thing. I also understand that a few bad apples donât mean that EVERY copper is bent, but thanks to the contributorâs who have posted that particular view, itâs an absolute revelation to me
Like most on here I pay a significant amount of tax & NI. The police (for whatever reason) are failing the public miserably, and pointing out that WE pay for the police is not a snipe. Itâs a simple fact, and we as the public get CRAP value for money out of the coppers in my view. This guy spent an hour of his â valuable â police time on this forum earlier trying to get US to help him, and I donât agree that is the best use of his time.
Instead he should have got his arse into a patrol car and done some patrolling. Maybe get some LGV texters or maybe get some flip flops off the hard shoulder etc? Maybe sort some middle lane hoggers out? Maybe get some pricks to put their lights on in the dark? Maybe get some folks to sort their brake lights out instead of only having the tiny red one working at the top of their rear window?
If my view is â isolated â Dave, Iâm not too fussed mate. This forum is quickly becoming BlinkerNET UK. The professional forum for the permanently deluded.
Yet again YOU are making assumptions - i have already addressed i was at home, in MY OWN time writing the replies, so wasted a grand total of ZERO Police time and quite frankly even if i had been at work, your opinion on what you think is a best use of my time means nothing, as does your opinion in general.
Interesting stuff hereâŚnot sure if the OP is a genuine cop or not but all things seem to say that he (or she) is, if so then as above, individual coppers donât make laws and are only acting under instruction from above, which is where any grievances against the police should be directed.
As for budget cuts, yeah, it is having an effect on policing but the police forces themselves could stop wasting money and tighten their belts when it comes to unnecessary spending, like replacing all 4 tyres on a police car simply because it gets a puncture (I heard this from a serving copper who is a friend of a friend), and no doubt other OTT outgoings which totally unnecessary.
GORDON 50:
Interesting stuff hereâŚnot sure if the OP is a genuine cop or not but all things seem to say that he (or she) is, if so then as above, individual coppers donât make laws and are only acting under instruction from above, which is where any grievances against the police should be directed.
As for budget cuts, yeah, it is having an effect on policing but the police forces themselves could stop wasting money and tighten their belts when it comes to unnecessary spending, like replacing all 4 tyres on a police car simply because it gets a puncture (I heard this from a serving copper who is a friend of a friend), and no doubt other OTT outgoings which totally unnecessary.
Yeah, heard this from my mate too.
pierrot 14:
But still you let him slag off the police Diesel
It aint a Police state yet mate, free speech allows this stuff you know.
Would it maybe please you more if we all kissed his arse ?
In my opinion the Police ask for all they get, they are sh. hot on stuff like speedâŚ(oh sorry, SAFETY ) cameras in areas where it is relatively safe to speed, like a Motorway .
Always there to nick you taking sips of your Costa cappucino at the wheel (say wtf you like, but it is no more dangerous than turning on your radio at the wheel or scratching your arse)
Great at driving a tractor unit to catch the coffee drinkers and arse scratchers I mentioned.
But hey!..not quite SO hot on catching the scrotes who nick your load and/or fuel, or burgle your house while you are away earning your living.
Public opinion of the Police is at an all time low, and that aint for no reason.
the maoster:
I have it on good authority (Robroy told me) that the only uniform missing from Beavers extensive collection is in fact a police uniform! Could this be the key to his angst?
Well thatâs where youâre wrong Maost.
This was him prowling around Warrington last Saturday night.
EssexTrafficSgt:
We continually get complaints from HGV drivers about this issue and often get calls/logged incidents reporting this which we are then asked to specifically respond to if available and several earlier posts on here inferred the same - the reason we move over and be subtle is to prevent someone who was intending on pulling in behind from seeing us and moving to another location when had they not seen us they would have pulled in illegally - this almost certainly wouldnât be their first time and they regularly do it hence wanting to actually deal with them for it as a deterrent, as seeing us and our lights would only deter them for that one occasion and not longer like a fine, potentially with points would (after all there are only so many points you can get before a ban, including foreign drivers).
Again, thanks for replying.
Whilst Iâll never defend anyone for parking under a bridge, frankly they get what they deserve, I canât agree with your methods. You seem to be endorsing illegal activity simply so you can catch them. Surely if itâs in the interest of safety ( and Iâm not disagreeing with you on that), then you need to be preventing illegal activity by letting your presence be known. Every driver on here will tell you that driving standards on the motorway improve dramatically when a jam sandwich can be seen prowling the lanes!
Humberside police have the motto âprotect, reassure and something elseâ, an invisible police force doesnât reassure.
Again, sorry for taking you off track and I understand that youâre doing what your superiors tell you to do, but these are things that Iâd like to know and it wasnât appropriate to ask during my last interaction with a police officer.
eagerbeaver:
This guy hasnât come on here because he wants to help us Dave. Yes, I understand that he has a job to do, and one company is causing him a headache (like I do for you on a regular basis
Hi EB,
As I said earlier, I respect your view, but Iâm not sure how you can be so sure that he is here for his own ends.
Sorry, but I just donât get that.
eagerbeaver:
Obviously if his agenda has a knock-on benefit for us then itâs not a bad thing.
I completely agree with you on that point.
eagerbeaver:
I also understand that a few bad apples donât mean that EVERY copper is bent, but thanks to the contributorâs who have posted that particular view, itâs an absolute revelation to me
This is an example of what I meant by âstuff unconnected with the original premise of this topic,â because itâs a completely separate discussion.
eagerbeaver:
But the ONE non complying company with a handful of billboards wonât make sod all difference to our parking problems.
Agreed again EB, but if the police can successfully prosecute this company, then others may take notice thereby leaving even more parking spaces.
Great oaks grow from little acorns.
eagerbeaver:
Like most on here I pay a significant amount of tax & NI. The police (for whatever reason) are failing the public miserably, and pointing out that WE pay for the police is not a snipe. Itâs a simple fact, and we as the public get CRAP value for money out of the coppers in my view.
I called it a snipe because up to that point there didnât seem to be any positive contribution from your good self .
Much of what youâd written was unconnected, so perhaps I should have described it as a blunderbuss approach.
eagerbeaver:
This guy spent an hour of his â valuable â police time on this forum earlier trying to get US to help him, and I donât agree that is the best use of his time.
Already answered.
eagerbeaver:
Instead he should have got his arse into a patrol car and done some patrolling. Maybe get some LGV texters or maybe get some flip flops off the hard shoulder etc? Maybe sort some middle lane hoggers out? Maybe get some pricks to put their lights on in the dark? Maybe get some folks to sort their brake lights out instead of only having the tiny red one working at the top of their rear window?
All very true and quite possibly worthy of discussion, but unconnected with this topic.
- Already answered.
eagerbeaver:
If my view is â isolated â Dave, Iâm not too fussed mate. This forum is quickly becoming BlinkerNET UK. The professional forum for the permanently deluded.
I might even (partly) agree with you here too, but a lot of our time is spent on dashing to emergencies like preventing it from becoming Toby.Net, or (worse) Carryfast.Net 
I wonât mention the weâre short of resources too!
Jam sandwichâŚthatâs something I havenât heard in years!