If he worked for Wincanton and they got an NIP for him not wearing his seatbelt, he would more than likely get his P45 as well as the fine. They have a strict seatbelt policy that can result in summary dismissal.
Bit harsh a penalty all in all for what is a minor offence. Do the police think it is worth it to put a man on the dole for £60?
schrodingers cat:
If he worked for Wincanton and they got an NIP for him not wearing his seatbelt, he would more than likely get his P45 as well as the fine. They have a strict seatbelt policy that can result in summary dismissal.
Bit harsh a penalty all in all for what is a minor offence. Do the police think it is worth it to put a man on the dole for £60?
The police didn’t “put a man on the dole” he did it himself. It’s the law and company policy. He chose to ignore both.
schrodingers cat:
If he worked for Wincanton and they got an NIP for him not wearing his seatbelt, he would more than likely get his P45 as well as the fine. They have a strict seatbelt policy that can result in summary dismissal. ?
Aint that why alot of trucks have red seat belts fitted, easier to see who aint using it
Going to have to start wearing mine properly, sometimes tuck the shoulder strap behind the arm rest so that just the lap strap is over, makes my shoulder ache some times.
Law is the Law, if he is not wearing a seat belt he is breaking the law … loads of other crimes are detected by simple no seat belts or rear break light not working etc.
The job of the police is to protect the public from criminals, people who would rob you or do you harm. Speeding can harm others, driving a non-roadworthy vehicle can put others in danger however, I bet today I will see someone without a seatbelt and I doubt it will do me any lasting damage or cause me to run to the hills.
Just how much have the police invested in trying to sort real crimes? Gypsy’s who intimidate old folk into paying big money for crap, unnecessary work, load theft, diesel theft etc etc.
If they drive alongside someone who is watching a film or something like that, fair enough, but seat belts? Pathetic laws created just to raise income!
schrodingers cat:
If he worked for Wincanton and they got an NIP for him not wearing his seatbelt, he would more than likely get his P45 as well as the fine. They have a strict seatbelt policy that can result in summary dismissal.
Bit harsh a penalty all in all for what is a minor offence. Do the police think it is worth it to put a man on the dole for £60?
Certainly 2 sides to that though, company i work for says that the / their insurance is void if you have an accident and your not wearing a seat belt— big implications there!!
DoYouMeanMe?:
but seat belts? Pathetic laws created just to raise income!
Seat belts- pathetic law?? Give me a break.
With respect.
Its been proved thousands of times over that “pathetic law” has saved thousands of lives over the years. And I have first hand experiance of it.
About 8 years ago some prick turned right, infront of a car my mrs was driving. It was a rural road with a 60 limit, she was doing 50 and burried said car into the side of numb scull matey. If she hadnt been wearing her seat belt, she would be 6 feet under now. I tell ya, you’ve no idea how that felt turning up at the scene of that lot. And when I’d calmed down, I wanted to rip that guys head off and ■■■■ down the hole!
Gembo, I’m very glad that wearing a seatbelt saved her, I really am.
But should we also pass a law that mountain climbing is to be made illegal and save some more lives, ban horse riding, all forms of motorsport and being as football causes injuries (plus a few young people have dropped dead whilst playing) football, rugby and anything less genteel than badminton?
del949:
It wasn’t the “law” that saved her, it was the seat belt!
Yeah, valid point Del
DoYouMeanMe?:
Gembo, I’m very glad that wearing a seatbelt saved her, I really am.
But should we also pass a law that mountain climbing is to be made illegal and save some more lives, ban horse riding, all forms of motorsport and being as football causes injuries (plus a few young people have dropped dead whilst playing) football, rugby and anything less genteel than badminton?
I get where ya coming from. What about table tennis?
During a two-week period South Yorkshire Police specialist roads policing officers dealt with over 150 offences on the county’s motorways and main roads by using an unmarked heavy goods lorry. with fines of over £12,000
One driver who was issued a fixed penalty ticket for using his mobile phone asked the officers who stopped him to tell the two officers in the unmarked lorry ‘fair play to you, I’d seen information about the operation in the trade press, you caught me, carry on you’re doing a cracking job’.
motionlotion:
Will most probably get shot down for this but i was wondering what the implications were, “for someone filming you without your consent”
There is nothing in law about this. Anyone can take photographs on public ground, which includes the public highway, in the UK. There are a few ‘sensitive areas’ which by the Police is most places they say, but they’re often wrong.
Wheel Nut:
You need to know the definition of a Youth. We have the problem of the public photographing Youth Riders in our Race Championship as the legal definition of a Youth is an Infant or Minor until he/she is an Adult
I was at an event some weeks back where the cross-country hikers were mostly teenagers and there was no problem voiced with me taking photographs of them. I even met the organisers and got a photograph of him too.
Some weren’t as sharp as they could be and others are a bit off on exposure but that’s not the point is it? The Police were present at a few of the checkpoints but did not query me or anything either. Although I guess that my point of view would be as it is only public property there are no relevant restrictions.
ISTR I also took photographs on the school grounds, although not of anyone but more of some sculptures Of course, there was that snazzy new BMW police car on an 61 plate that I got a nice fot of too, and you can just see a hint of the WPC standing nearby telling of the performance specs, but that is beside the point. It did look nice glinting in the sun
someone could mistake the camera lense as the sight of a rifle.
this could of course make the driver lose control of his lorry, and run aberdeen angus, and his bum chum off the road.
therefore the whole idea of a scamera truck, is of course highly dangerous.
DoYouMeanMe?:
The job of the police is to protect the public from criminals, people who would rob you or do you harm. Speeding can harm others, driving a non-roadworthy vehicle can put others in danger however, I bet today I will see someone without a seatbelt and I doubt it will do me any lasting damage or cause me to run to the hills.
Just how much have the police invested in trying to sort real crimes? Gypsy’s who intimidate old folk into paying big money for crap, unnecessary work, load theft, diesel theft etc etc.
If they drive alongside someone who is watching a film or something like that, fair enough, but seat belts? Pathetic laws created just to raise income!
The job of the police is to uphold the law. End Of.
They do not make, it they do not judge you when you have broken it, they just report you for not acting in accordance with it. To be truthful I bet most coppers think some laws are stupid, but they get paid to act for their masters, The home office, who in turn act for government, and ultimately for us.
Phil. I imagine the amount of people getting confused between a camera lens and a gun is in single figures, a large figure like 1