OllieNotts:
I think I am going to start carrying a camcorder when a passenger in my car and start to record police officers driving along and if they stop me shall say “it is in the public’s interest to know whether or not you are driving properly” or something along those lines. I am not anti police like a lot of folk, but some things really ■■■■ me off and it is usually their double standards. I filmed one in London at a train station as he was swearing at me and the tried to grab it and failed and I ended up getting pics of him in the process which I started to wave at him next to his mates. He knew he couldnt do me for no reason when standing next to police men causing no bother(except for winding him up waving the pic of his angry face at him a few feet away
Some are pricks some aren’t, but I doubt any of them would appreciate having their personal space invaded in such a manner as they see fit to do to us.
It is now illegal to photograpgh the Police, the law came in a couple of years ago…2010 I think.
I used to film them when they had speed traps in operation and multi agency check points going on
I used to arrive on my bike, wearing a crash helmet and keep it on whilst I took pictures and filmed
I had many requests for the film and cameras, but I always politely refused the requests and knew the law about it.
I also reported the Sussex camera safety partnership, for having concealed blue lights on a non emergency response vehicle When that was illegal.
It is now illegal to photograpgh the Police, the law came in a couple of years ago…2010 I think.
I used to film them when they had speed traps in operation and multi agency check points going on
I used to arrive on my bike, wearing a crash helmet and keep it on whilst I took pictures and filmed
I had many requests for the film and cameras, but I always politely refused the requests and knew the law about it.
NO, NO, NO. It is not illegal to photograph or video the police. The law you are getting confused about is if you have terrorist affiliation and your activities would help that or endanger national security.
The police have been using that excuse and the ‘behaviour liable to cause a breach of the peace’ one for ages and have been told by the Chief of Police to stop it! Read the articles in the link on one of the previous posts. Carry on filming speed traps if that’s what you enjoy doing.
Its not illegal to have covert blue lamps or fitted blue emergency lamps as long as they are not lit or showing light. I’ve got a dash strobe led bracket on loan. Clear when not in use and no problem yet. Police checked last time I saw them and no issues raised.
ROAD policing officers in South Yorkshire used an unmarked HGV to allow them to see into the cabs of lorries on the move, in an operation which may now be repeated across the region.
During the operation, police dealt with more than 150 offences and issued £12,130 of fixed penalty fines to those caught using a mobile phone, not wearing a seatbelt or not being in proper control of their vehicles.
The most common offence saw 42 drivers caught using their mobile phone while driving.
Fifty-five drivers were dealt with for a variety of tachograph offences and one vehicle was seized for having no insurance.
One driver who was caught using his mobile phone said: “You caught me, carry on, you’re doing a cracking job.”
Chief inspector Stuart Walne, Head of Roads Policing in South Yorkshire said: “This latest operation has been a great success.
“With the support of Mercedes, the Road Haulage Association and colleagues from neighbouring forces I am sure these operations will continue and be expanded across the region.
“Any vehicle that is not being driven correctly can be a lethal weapon
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It is now illegal to photograpgh the Police, the law came in a couple of years ago…2010 I think.
I used to film them when they had speed traps in operation and multi agency check points going on
I used to arrive on my bike, wearing a crash helmet and keep it on whilst I took pictures and filmed
I had many requests for the film and cameras, but I always politely refused the requests and knew the law about it.
I also reported the Sussex camera safety partnership, for having concealed blue lights on a non emergency response vehicle When that was illegal.
DO you really have nothing better to do with your life? Did it fill you with a deep sence of satisfaction?
AHT:
DO you really have nothing better to do with your life? Did it fill you with a deep sence of satisfaction?
I think you’ve spelt ‘sense’ wrong there mate As for peoples hobbies, who are you to dictate what he does with his life! As long as he doesn’t get in your face or threaten to hug you when you lose your short fuse then who gives a [zb]
Dented:
Its not illegal to have covert blue lamps or fitted blue emergency lamps as long as they are not lit or showing light. I’ve got a dash strobe led bracket on loan. Clear when not in use and no problem yet. Police checked last time I saw them and no issues raised.
Erm - from the Road Vehicle Lighting Regulations 1989:
"Restrictions on fitting blue warning beacons, special warning lamps and similar devices
No vehicle, other than an emergency vehicle, shall be fitted with—
(a)a blue warning beacon or special warning lamp, or
(b)a device which resembles a blue warning beacon or a special warning lamp, whether the same is in working order or not."
I stand to be corrected if that has been amended, but TTBOMK it has not.
Dented:
Its not illegal to have covert blue lamps or fitted blue emergency lamps as long as they are not lit or showing light. I’ve got a dash strobe led bracket on loan. Clear when not in use and no problem yet. Police checked last time I saw them and no issues raised.
Erm - from the Road Vehicle Lighting Regulations 1989:
"Restrictions on fitting blue warning beacons, special warning lamps and similar devices
No vehicle, other than an emergency vehicle, shall be fitted with—
(a)a blue warning beacon or special warning lamp, or
(b)a device which resembles a blue warning beacon or a special warning lamp, whether the same is in working order or not."
I stand to be corrected if that has been amended, but TTBOMK it has not.
Interesting that Raymondo.
That makes it that the Police themselves are breaking the law as in Northampton, they have a plain grey R1 that is unmarked and it’s sole purpose is to lure other riders into a race and then nick them. It may be a police vehicle, but I doubt it could be classed as an emergency vehicle. Mind you, can an unmarked BMW …
That could be a very interesting piece of legislation to know!
The term “emergency vehicle” is defined in the same Regulations as:
"A motor vehicle of any of the following descriptions—
(a)a vehicle used for fire brigade, ambulance or police purposes;
(b)an ambulance, being a vehicle (other than an invalid carriage) which is constructed or adapted for the purposes of conveying sick, injured or disabled persons and which is used for such purposes;
(c)a vehicle owned by a body formed primarily for the purposes of fire salvage and used for those or similar purposes;
(d)a vehicle owned by the Forestry Commission or by a local authority and used from time to time for the purposes of fighting fires;
(e)a vehicle owned by the Secretary of State for Defence and used—
(i)for the purposes of the disposal of bombs or explosives,
(ii)by the Naval Emergency Monitoring Organisation for the purposes of a nuclear accident or an incident involving radioactivity,
(iii)by the Royal Air Force Mountain Rescue Service for the purposes of rescue operations or any other emergencies, or
(iv)by the Royal Air Force Armament Support Unit;
(f)a vehicle primarily used for the purposes of the Blood Transfusion Service provided under the National Health Service Act 1977(8) or under the National Health Service (Scotland) Act 1978(9);
(g)a vehicle used by Her Majesty’s Coastguard or Coastguard Auxiliary Service for the purposes of giving aid to persons in danger or vessels indistress on or near the coast;
(h)a vehicle owned by the British Coal Corporation and used for the purposes of rescue operations at mines;
(i)a vehicle owned by the Royal National Lifeboat Institution and used for the purposes of launching lifeboats; and
(j)a vehicle primarily used for the purposes of conveying any human tissue for transplanting or similar purposes."
So any police vehicle can be fitted with blue beacons quite legally.
(b)an ambulance, being a vehicle adapted for the purposes of conveying disabled persons and which is used for such purposes;
So a mobility car, with any adaptation,i.e. an extra handle to help the person get in or out, can have blue lights on as it meets all the above criteria. That could be a laugh…
(b)an ambulance, being a vehicle adapted for the purposes of conveying disabled persons and which is used for such purposes;
So a mobility car, with any adaptation,i.e. an extra handle to help the person get in or out, can have blue lights on as it meets all the above criteria. That could be a laugh…
Invalid carriages are vehicles designed specially for the use of disabled persons, not cars that have been adapted. The older folk on here will remember those pale blue three wheeler jobs with a 2 stroke engine and a handle-bar set-up which were taken out of service about 20 yrs ago (many were still at MVS Fradley last time I went). Modern vehicles in this class are mobility scooters that exceed a certain maximum speed.
Safety Camera Partnership is not covered in the regulation, thats why it was an offence to have the lights on the vehicle.
And just for information…It was not my hobby, I was merely doing it to guage the reaction of those who were in authority, to gather information and process and understand it.
Why would you not do this, if most days you are subject to the regulations…Ignorance is no defence in law, so best to be prepared
It was at one of these multi agency check points, that I discovered cameras in Local Authority(Council) vehicles! They don`t publish the fact that they have done this, so best to find out as much as you can.
ROADRANGER:
A mate of mine was heading south on the M18 today and the police actros drew up alongside, and the nice police officer in the passenger seat whipped his little camera out and started filming him.
Unusually, he wasn’t eating/picking his nose ect, but, he didn’t have his seat belt on.
So,what do we think,will he get a nip,or,if they were a nickin would he have been pulled?
Oh yes and watch out for the inglorious chaps in the silver solo actros.
Two things on this.
In the video posted above, he refers to things ‘distracting’ drivers. Not wearing a seatbelt does not distract you!
In this, our good friend seems to be wearing a wired ear-piece, maybe to his phone (see 0.28seconds). CB’s and 2 way radios are exempt, but I was under the impression that wired headsets were a danger because of getting tangled. Now surely, even if it is a wired headset to a 2 way radio, it is still just as dangerous isn’t it and I wouldn’t want anyone to think the police force had a double standards policy…
I’m sure that wired ones are illegal and the reason given at the time was they could get tangled up in your arms etc.
Would other distractions include someone driving along taking video’s I’ll bet that if you did it with a passenger to a copper, he would say it was liable to cause drivers to not concentrate on his driving.
