Police pointing camera into cab

If someone pokes a camera into my cab…I am straight over to the hard shoulder to get on the phone and report it, the fact that they may be Police is of no consequence to me.
It is a gross invasion of privacy and I shall not tolerate it. :imp:

I just hope it is the Police and they stop with me, as a few ■■■■■■ swear words will be placed carefully into their listening devices. :smiley:

wildfire:
no seat belt is an on the the spot fine, so no nip will be sent through the post as there is no points envolved. :unamused: :unamused:

WRONG ! I got one with a picture of me on the A62 Oldham road out of Manchester with a £60 fine attatched. Luckily, 2 days later the wagon was rolled by another driver, written off and condemned to the scrap yard (or Kahzakstan maybe)… I wrote a returning letter explaining I was on multi drop delivery (which I was) and that also the truck did not have seat belts fitted (which was a lie) and as per usualy for the police they didn’t continue with the charge, or reply to say ‘ok’. They will never admit wrong doing, you just don’t hear from them… Anyway, if you don’t want to pay the fine then cut the seatbelt out :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: To be honest I always wear one now but my neck has a nice red mark where they always rub in to your neck, something needs to be done about this as its annoying as hell. I was interested to notice Luck (switchlogic’s) video where he has the shoulder pad added to his trucks seat belt… Unfortuanately being in and out of different trucks each day is a bit of a pain in the arse to do that so I now make sure I wear my fleece with a collar on it, you shouldn’t have to though should you !!!

so how do they get away with having no speed limiter, that aint no emergency vehicle.

gazza1970:
so how do they get away with having no speed limiter, that aint no emergency vehicle.

Simple. They don’t need one :unamused:

Think there is a law about filming children, or did I read that in the Mail?

No law is being broken if they are in a public place and you are filming, however I would expect to be whisked away and questioned if I went to a public kiddies play area and started filming specifically at them without explaining what and why to the parents although it would not be illegal, it would surely raise concern and I’m sure someone would ring the police. Say for instance, you were doing a news feature about kids not playing outside much or kids enjoying the parks new play area and you asked the parents if they minded (which you would only need to do out of courtesy, not law) if one said they objected, I would ask them to remove their child while I did the filming. The problem is though that the ones most liable to object are also the ones who would refuse to take their kid out of shot, so at that point I would just crack on with the film and if they start acting up, tough, they had the option. Most dance troops etc, specifically ask parents about if they object to their kids being filmed at sign-up stage and any that do, the kids are not used for any shows, outside events etc, then when the parents comes and moans that their little precious is never invited to do these events you can fire back that it is because someone may film against their wishes and the other kids parents didn’t mind and may in fact want a film of their kids performance.
Incidentally, the main reason hospitals try to ban phones is not the interference that they don’t cause anyway or the nuisance but because most have cameras on it could be used in a patient confidentiality breach which they have to do as much as possible to avoid.

wildfire:

Wheel Nut:

ROADRANGER:
A mate of mine was heading south on the M18 today and the police actros drew up alongside, and the nice police officer in the passenger seat whipped his little camera out and started filming him.
Unusually, he wasn’t eating/picking his nose ect, but, he didn’t have his seat belt on.
So,what do we think,will he get a nip,or,if they were a nickin would he have been pulled?
Oh yes and watch out for the inglorious chaps in the silver solo actros.

I reckon a neatly printed NIP will be in the next post to the vehicle operator.

If you are doing 56mph on a motorway and a solo unit is catching you, chances are it is plod :laughing:

no seat belt is an on the the spot fine, so no nip will be sent through the post as there is no points envolved. :unamused: :unamused:

If it isn’t an NIP, it will be a letter asking the registered keeper to identify the driver, they have photographic proof to remind him. It has been done several times, read up on pistonheads or pepipoo

I filmed a Traffic Warden giving me a ticket once and he got so agitated he swore at me and tried to grab the camera. Nice one, ticket cancelled, Warden sacked…

Basically, if you’re in a public place (including inside your vehicle on the road) then you can be lawfully filmed or photographed by anyone.

Filming a traffic warden doing his job is highly recommended, I’ve done it twice now :stuck_out_tongue:

AHT:
He might have just not been wearing a seat belt, but in the next truck the driver might be eating, reading a book or playing on his laptop. Do you reall think that is acceptable behaviour that should go un detected?

Is eating at the wheel acceptable behaviour?

I can think of crimes the police would be better off persuing… stinks of being very petty. Fair enough if your boiling up a tin of soup on the dash, but chewing on a butty - do me a favour.

One other thing about CCTV, few people know this, but you are allowed to insist the owners of such systems send you a copy of any footage of you they may have, at their expense. Now that could cause the operators of the motorway network cameras, train stations etc, a bit of a headache…

The above is not true, IMO.
I’m a london bus driver and we get people asking for our cctv all the time, they have to pay, why?
because we have to blur all the faces and number plates of anyone else on the cctv, data protection act.

Rambo, A bus is not a place to which the general public have un-hindered access, that’s the difference, people have to pay to go on a bus. It is the same with my garage/workshop. I can refuse to give it full stop. However shopping centres even railway stations up until the area you must purchase a ticket to get beyond, fall within the scope and it’s been done. Now would you be able to do anything about someone who refused, well that’s a different question as at present,anyone and everyone can have CCTV and break all the rules about it’s security without anyone giving a toss.

I will admit, I haven’t gone through it to see if anything has changed in the last 3-4 yrs, but that’s how it was then. The whole CCTV thing is a mess and needs thoroughly tightening up. At the moment, I can have a dome out side that looks anywhere down the strret, into peoples houses, bedrooms etc and no legislation seems to stop it. Advice yes, but no concrete taboo’s. Plain wrong!

rambo19:
One other thing about CCTV, few people know this, but you are allowed to insist the owners of such systems send you a copy of any footage of you they may have, at their expense. Now that could cause the operators of the motorway network cameras, train stations etc, a bit of a headache…

The above is not true, IMO.
I’m a london bus driver and we get people asking for our cctv all the time, they have to pay, why?
because we have to blur all the faces and number plates of anyone else on the cctv, data protection act.

The Data protection Request is ONLY £10, well worth spending a tenner to get all these asses with CCTV to go thru all their footage to find me, and also have to scrub out everyone elses faces :wink:

was he driving with no hands on the steering wheel or only one.If so the law states you must be in full control of vehicle ie 2 hands on steering wheel.

mk7fiesta:
was he driving with no hands on the steering wheel or only one.If so the law states you must be in full control of vehicle ie 2 hands on steering wheel.

What about changing gears in a manual :question: :unamused:

DoYouMeanMe?:
One other thing about CCTV, few people know this, but you are allowed to insist the owners of such systems send you a copy of any footage of you they may have, at their expense. Now that could cause the operators of the motorway network cameras, train stations etc, a bit of a headache…

There was that band who played on the streets in front of CCTV cameras, then demanded their footage and made a clip out of it, but I forgot their name… :wink:

I think I am going to start carrying a camcorder when a passenger in my car and start to record police officers driving along and if they stop me shall say “it is in the public’s interest to know whether or not you are driving properly” or something along those lines. I am not anti police like a lot of folk, but some things really ■■■■ me off and it is usually their double standards. I filmed one in London at a train station as he was swearing at me and the tried to grab it and failed and I ended up getting pics of him in the process which I started to wave at him next to his mates. He knew he couldnt do me for no reason when standing next to police men causing no bother(except for winding him up waving the pic of his angry face at him a few feet away :smiley: :sunglasses:
Some are pricks some aren’t, but I doubt any of them would appreciate having their personal space invaded in such a manner as they see fit to do to us.

At the moment, I can have a dome out side that looks anywhere down the strret, into peoples houses, bedrooms etc and no legislation seems to stop it. Advice yes, but no concrete taboo’s. Plain wrong!

A guy in bradford/shipley was prosecuted a few years ago for almost exactly that.
using a camcorder in his bedroom window to film youths misbehaving outside the perimeters of his property.

I don’t believe half of this thread, here in the UK we have more cameras than almost any other country in the World, but that is not the issue here, that’s for another day.

When you walk down the street you are being filmed, if you behave that film will be written over tomorrow. It is the same with Roadrangers “friend”

The policeman in the passenger seat will have seen him without a seatbelt, it’s illegal to drive a lorry without a seatbelt being worn so he filmed him, it is rather unusual not to have a patrol car working in tandem who would pull you and read the riot act while issuing a FPN

I wish I had a tenner for everyone I have seen picking their nose in the mirror. I should have filmed them because they are oblivious as you overtake :stuck_out_tongue:

If someone here is cutting their grass on Sunday afternoon and I walk past your house. I can take a picture of your lawnmower, whether or not you are stood next to it or not, as long as I don’t stand outside a school taking pictures of the children.

del949:

At the moment, I can have a dome out side that looks anywhere down the strret, into peoples houses, bedrooms etc and no legislation seems to stop it. Advice yes, but no concrete taboo’s. Plain wrong!

A guy in bradford/shipley was prosecuted a few years ago for almost exactly that.
using a camcorder in his bedroom window to film youths misbehaving outside the perimeters of his property.

You need to know the definition of a Youth. We have the problem of the public photographing Youth Riders in our Race Championship as the legal definition of a Youth is an Infant or Minor until he/she is an Adult

“youth” was my word, it’s a while ago and I don’t remember the exact wording.
I do remember that the prosecution centred around the filming of areas off his own property, rather than the age of the youths.

Del, there has to be a lot more to that case. Filming anything that happens in a public place is 100% OK as long as you have no terrorist connections. A lot of underage yobs have tried to get people prosecuted as perverts for filming them while they do criminal damage etc, but eventually, the courts saw through that.