harry: A tip. Don’t get caught then you won’t be fined. Explaines why your upset as you had done something for the police to clap eyes on you. Maybe in furture you don’t be silly and get caught?
Yeah,I made the mistake of getting into the driving seat that day.
PS. Don’t patronise me, & get a grip of your atrocious spelling or this discussion is at an end ,you box ticking…ex-cop!
What next?Ex-PCSOS putting their 2pennyworth on here?
Pot kettle black comes to mind.
Police intelligence test; if they pass ,they fail!
spooky70:
What’s the chances that rather smart 143 had a wire attatched ‘somewhere’, and a big old thumb print in the centre of the tacho glass?? Just curious!
The last time that theory was mentioned the thread was locked.
In pre-limiter days it stopped the tacho recording the speed properly, pushing on the glass stops the speedometer needle from rising any further and the speed trace is connected to this. You could also hold down the trace needle with a small elastic band. Allegedly.
Harry Monk:
In pre-limiter days it stopped the tacho recording the speed properly, pushing on the glass stops the speedometer needle from rising any further and the speed trace is connected to this. You could also hold down the trace needle with a small elastic band. Allegedly.
Did you know . . . That the speed recorded on a LGV’s tacho is not regarded as accurate evidence to a court of law. Likewise for time records.
If any backroom lawyer, or Rog, wants to jump up & prove me wrong, please do so with a link to any case where the tacho recording provided the evidence for a conviction.
Hauliers have had action taken against their O licences based solely on tachograph evidence for exceeding 40mph shortly after leaving their operating centres, when there were only single carriageways in the area.
Harry Monk:
Hauliers have had action taken against their O licences based solely on tachograph evidence for exceeding 40mph shortly after leaving their operating centres, when there were only single carriageways in the area.
When tachos first came out in early 80s it was stressed that you could not be done retrospectively for speeding, a classic case of moving the goal posts to suit themselves
Chas:
Did you know . . . That the speed recorded on a LGV’s tacho is not regarded as accurate evidence to a court of law. Likewise for time records.
If any backroom lawyer, or Rog, wants to jump up & prove me wrong, please do so with a link to any case where the tacho recording provided the evidence for a conviction.
You’ve probably worded that badly. I think you mean a tachograph recording on its own is not sufficient for a speeding prosecution if thats the sole evidence.
However tachograph evidence has been used to back up assumptions of speeding, cases of speeding and whereby speed is a factor in an accident. Have i got to go and look for this crap now ?
Perhaps if so many “professional” drivers didn’t break the law, there wouldn’t be so many fines handed out.
And you lot moan about the police. Get your own house in order first?
Fair comment but then “perhaps” they will crackdown on the diesel and load thief’s, ahhhhhhh but that doesn’t earn as much and doesn’t sound as good when in the local press.
Us lorry drivers are the scum of the earth and should be treated as such whilst all those thieving gits are just trying to feed their families.
“Perhaps” you have never woken up in the morning and found an empty tank or stuff missing off your trailer (and that’s when parked in a “safe” place as in msa or truckstop)
Get a life and get real.
I think i said this before to you and you got upset and got very rude about it. Police have nothing to do with safe parking etc. It’s down to the driver to know where it is safe, or not, and my advice is, If you know that the area your parked in is a fuel hot spot area then don’t park there at all. If you do park in that area then your to blame, no one else. (Apart from the herberts who steal the fuel)
I don’t know if Roadsrat will agree, but catching a diesel thief in my opinion red handed is like winning the lottery. Again it is down to the drivers to help and inform the police if they seen a sus vehicle hanging about parked up near trucks, but again truck drivers don’t phone the police as it will make them look soft. Now days the thief don’t have to be near the truck to steal the fuel, they can be 500 meters down the road so it won’t look like there up to anything.
Yep your quite right,i did get very rude
so your with that rat thing on here ,wouldn’t expect anything else from a failed cop,
so police think all those lorry driving offences are VERY serious, O.K. LETS TAKE TODAY FOR EXAMPLE.
M6 southbound 8 miles north of Keele, a full red curries international on lt plates is weaving a bit in lane 1 and 2 varying between 45 to 50 mph . when he steadies up i start to overtake and get along side his cab.it’s double manned and they are watching a film on laptop which is square in middle of dash(not pointing to one side), Both are eating a meal of sorts from containers.
I back of and using a handsfree phone kit call police and give all details etc to them.
I was behind them all the way to hilton park services and not one police car even came near, they obviously thought that being foreign and doing that was either not dangerous or to much hassle to do the paperwork etc.
i did phone it in again but was just asked for same details even when i quoted the reference number given in first call.
Won’t even bother doing that again.waste of time if it not a money earner or qudos at the local nick/local paper.
ohhhhhhhhh by the way i won on irish lottery today
How much did you win?
Also Gezt, i am not with Roadsrat and this “Failed cop” thing, water of a ducks back. I have had worse thrown at me
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so your no longer a cop, your a “lorry driver” so get out of uniform and get into lorry driver mentality, as in
you need to be there on time and when you are your kept waiting 2/3/4 hours…boss wonders why you aint at next pick up. you get away then trafic hold up/boss wonders why you ■■■■■■■ about.
you get to next pick up/del and wait 3 hours.boss thinks you havin a laff,
then you get back on road after all the hassle and plod pulls you up for a “routine check” you notice there are no cars/caravans/■■■■■■? ETC pulled in for same routine check.
you go online to truknet to ■■■■■ abit an let of steam.
THEN 2 mega pillocks called mickeyblue and rat come on and tell you how to behave etc as if they are gods children and can freely preach whilst one has failed in his first job so now feel good enough to do his second lowly job.
my stock answer to you both is …OFF
please feel free to choose any first word you desire.
Don’t come here and preach to long serviced drivers with more experience than you 2 will ever achieve in your lifetime.
YOU ARE NOT QUALIFIED ,END OF
PLEASE GO … OFF TO A POLICEMANS ACHIEVED/FAILED FORUM.
Chas:
Did you know . . . That the speed recorded on a LGV’s tacho is not regarded as accurate evidence to a court of law. Likewise for time records.
If any backroom lawyer, or Rog, wants to jump up & prove me wrong, please do so with a link to any case where the tacho recording provided the evidence for a conviction.
You’ve probably worded that badly. I think you mean a tachograph recording on its own is not sufficient for a speeding prosecution if thats the sole evidence.
However tachograph evidence has been used to back up assumptions of speeding, cases of speeding and whereby speed is a factor in an accident. Have i got to go and look for this crap now ?
I don’t have the vocabulary to put into an easily understandable way for the knuckledragerz to readily understand. Excuse me if this comes across as arrogant, but I cannot lower my thought patterns to match theirs.
Tacho’s are not accurate. They could so easily have been made to be accurate, but someone involved in the process of defining the standards chose not to make them that way. Whoever they were, they did us a favour.
Tacho’s are so friggin useless in a court of law it is unbelievable.
Chas:
Tacho’s are not accurate. They could so easily have been made to be accurate, but someone involved in the process of defining the standards chose not to make them that way. Whoever they were, they did us a favour.
Tacho’s are so friggin useless in a court of law it is unbelievable.
It’s true. VOSA would find it difficult to bring a prosecution for driving over hours with a digital tachograph, since a digital tachograph will record one second’s driving as one minute’s driving. I had a VOSA inspection a fortnight ago and raised this with them, they completely agreed.
Analogue tachographs are no better and there is virtually no quality control over waxed charts.
If you still have an analogue tacho then try this simple experiment. Place thirty or forty charts on the spindle of the tachograph and then flick through them, like one of those hand-drawn cartoon books we used to make as kids. You would expect that the times marked on the outer edge of the chart would be perfectly aligned but they won’t be, they will be all over the place, as much as ten minutes apart. So you can take nine hours off and analogue charts could show this as insufficient rest.
