Points on licence

How many of you guys and girls have got points and how many? Recently (and I mean recent, they aren’t even on my licence yet) got caught doing 80mph on the A64 by a camera van, will this affect any chances of employment driving trucks?

Surely some of you truckers will have been caught doing your max speed on duel carriageways if the A19 between York and Sunderland is anything to go by :question:

Do you have any other points?
If your license is clean apart from these ones then you might be ok but 84mph an an A road is pretty over the limit so it might depend on each individual company.

Ghiabox:
How many of you guys and girls have got points and how many? Recently (and I mean recent, they aren’t even on my licence yet) got caught doing 80mph on the A64 by a camera van, will this affect any chances of employment driving trucks?

Surely some of you truckers will have been caught doing your max speed on duel carriageways if the A19 between York and Sunderland is anything to go by :question:

Even if you get done its only going to be 3 points,shouldn’t think its anything to worry about.

Most companies will allow up to 6 points for speeding without any question but I think any more than that and it may become an issue for the company insurance, depending on who they are with, but then a mate of mine got knocked back by NYK Logistics a few years ago for having 3 points for drving while on a mobile phone, so different companies will have different rules

I beleive the code for this is SP10 Exceeding goods vehicle speed limit, or words to that affect, so the speed its self probably wouldn’t be questioned, yeah they are the only points I have and the only points I want as when I go to re-insure my car thats gonna cost £160 more :cry: lesson learned.

Getting done for it already had the NIP and sent it back, I’m allowed 6 at my current place but want out so just making sure its not a big issue. Deffo sticking to the speed limits now, should have obviously been doing 60 on the A64 but the temptation of finishing before 8pm got the better of me.

Ghiabox:
How many of you guys and girls have got points and how many? Recently (and I mean recent, they aren’t even on my licence yet) got caught doing 80mph on the A64 by a camera van, will this affect any chances of employment driving trucks?

Not if you’ve only got the three. Things get sticky at 6.

Surely some of you truckers will have been caught doing your max speed on duel carriageways if the A19 between York and Sunderland is anything to go by :question:

No because the law changed on 6th April 2015 to increase the speed limits for HGVs to 60MPH on dual carriageways which is higher than the limiters are set. Don’t tell me you didn’t know about the speed limit changes…

Deffo sticking to the speed limits now, should have obviously been doing 60 on the A64

Do you actually have a license? If you were in a truck the only way you could do 60 or more on the A64 is if the limiter was disabled. If you were in a car the speed limit for a dual carriageway is 70MPH, not 60MPH.

Company drivers…:unamused:

Conor:

Ghiabox:
How many of you guys and girls have got points and how many? Recently (and I mean recent, they aren’t even on my licence yet) got caught doing 80mph on the A64 by a camera van, will this affect any chances of employment driving trucks?

Not if you’ve only got the three. Things get sticky at 6.

Surely some of you truckers will have been caught doing your max speed on duel carriageways if the A19 between York and Sunderland is anything to go by :question:

No because the law changed on 6th April 2015 to increase the speed limits for HGVs to 60MPH on dual carriageways which is higher than the limiters are set. Don’t tell me you didn’t know about the speed limit changes…

Deffo sticking to the speed limits now, should have obviously been doing 60 on the A64

Do you actually have a license? If you were in a truck the only way you could do 60 or more on the A64 is if the limiter was disabled. If you were in a car the speed limit for a dual carriageway is 70MPH, not 60MPH.

Company drivers…:unamused:

May be he was in a van with a view to driving a truck

unless your clocked at more than 50% over the limit then it 3 points and a fine…more than 50% over and beancounter plod will forward it to the crown to see if they want to make it an obligatory careless driving offence instead of just speeding,though unless theres some other circumstances,it might just go either way…years ago I got done for 84 in the A 74 when it was a 40 limit in my nice new transcontinental,(be fair,it was downhill in scotsmans 5th gear).though to be fair,afer a bit of grovveling and implying I gave a toss,we agreed on 79 as double would have been a ban,it was still speeding and a whack of a fine…a few year ago I got done in a row of boat traffic at 64 mph on the A75 where it was a careless driving.( they don’t take prisoners there) i used my paddy licence,refused to go to court or send a solicitor,and told the fiscals office to come and get me from the south,or just arrest me next time I got stopped coming off the boat. a letter offering them to help themselves from my credid card.(they don’t take visa),and they done me in my absence and phoned me to send them a cpl hundred quid to wigton sherrif court…( cant remember exact amount) and no endorsement as I gave them an address in the south…happy days all round… :smiley:

Ghiabox:
How many of you guys and girls have got points and how many? Recently (and I mean recent, they aren’t even on my licence yet) got caught doing 80mph on the A64 by a camera van, will this affect any chances of employment driving trucks?

Surely some of you truckers will have been caught doing your max speed on duel carriageways if the A19 between York and Sunderland is anything to go by :question:

I assume you were at 80mph on a dual carriageway in a car not a van, so you might be offered a speed awareness course instead of points.
But 3 points would normally be ok, 6 points is normally a maximum when they are advertising for jobs, where I work our company has to be informed if we get 6 points or more.

Bluey Circles:
May be he was in a van with a view to driving a truck

The different speed limit for vans catches quite a few out, we’ve had 2 at work, after the first one 73mph on the A14, I put speed limit warning notices in the vans where I thought a driver couldn’t fail to see them, we then had another one done for 71mph on a dual carriageway. Both drivers did a speed awareness course instead of taking the points.

The odd speeding nick shouldn’t be a problem, so long as you don’t make a habit of it or accumulate too many prizes.

Mobile phone offences are a biggie now and getting worse, last time i agencied for Argos if you had a mobile phone offence against you they would not employ you (incl agency i was told), from a post above it appears NYK are the same, and other large companies are also tightening right up on mobile phone use including disciplinary procedures for daring to make an outgoing call of any description even with the company issue phone via the company issue and fitted parrot handsfree, i know one chap and a bloody good worker who was summarily dismissed for phone use.

I thought I’d made it clear I don’t yet drive trucks in my first post (Conor) so just to clarify, I was in a van and yes I am wanting to get into driving trucks, its on hold til next year now though.

I have received the letter after the NIP to say I have to send my licence off to have the points put on and pay the £100 fine. Speed awareness course was not an option for 80 mph and yes I did know I should have been doing 60, took a chance and lost.

I am aware of the speed limits changes for trucks yes, although I thought it was 50 mph on duel carriageways as for vans its 60 DC and 70 MWAY. Scotland hasn’t changed their limits for trucks yet (that I’m aware of).

Juddian, so any use of mobile phone whilst driving, even on hands free, will get you into trouble? :open_mouth:

Thanks for the comments people.

Ghiabox:
I thought I’d made it clear I don’t yet drive trucks in my first post (Conor) so just to clarify, I was in a van and yes I am wanting to get into driving trucks, its on hold til next year now though.

I have received the letter after the NIP to say I have to send my licence off to have the points put on and pay the £100 fine. Speed awareness course was not an option for 80 mph and yes I did know I should have been doing 60, took a chance and lost.

I am aware of the speed limits changes for trucks yes, although I thought it was 50 mph on duel carriageways as for vans its 60 DC and 70 MWAY. Scotland hasn’t changed their limits for trucks yet (that I’m aware of).

Juddian, so any use of mobile phone whilst driving, even on hands free, will get you into trouble? :open_mouth:

Thanks for the comments people.

You’re fine legally with hands free (at the moment but may not be if you are involved in an accident or appear not to be in full control), but some companies take a harsh view, some will not recruit you at all if you have mobile phone points, some will discipline you up to dismissal for using on the move.

It’s one tiny part of the one size fits all dumbing down of the country, driver A might well have been using a mobile for 20 years and not driven into a ditch yet, driver B is an idiot who drives into the ditch if the phone beeps once or he sees a wet leaf or takes one hand off the wheel, we are assumed to all have the same competence as driver B who should have never been allowed within a mile of a lorry in the first place…welcome to modern Britain, racing to the bottom and going round the U bend at a record rate of knots.

Lorry drivers especially should be very careful of being caught for phone offences, its now a serious matter and can easily see you jobless and licenceless too, in the event of serious prang your phone(s) will be taken and interrogated and if you have a modern smart phone it will tell them everything you have done, apparently down to button presses, take care out there.

we have had a notice up at our place for a month or so saying the law has changed and hands free is now against the law.

And they claim there’s a driver shortage, yet they’re so fussy about such trivial things, ffs…

It wasn,t points when I had my first court case in the 1960,s. It was an endorsement and I think you were banned if you had three. I was driving a petrol engined Commer tanker along a country lane approaching a gentle left hand bend and an 1100 car came the other way . I pulled into the hedge as far as I could and the car missed the front but hit the back wheels and buried itself in the hedge. It was driven by a doddery old vicar with his housekeeper ( no she was old as well). Local plod came out on his pushbike and said he could see how it happened etc and off I went with only a small dent in the rear mudguard.
Seems local plods boss was not to pleased with the vicar being nearly sent to his maker and I ended being fined £10 for driving without due care and attention. In his statement the vicar said he hit the front of the truck because I was on the wrong side of the road. How can you argue against a vicar .
My second one was for doing 47 mph when the limit was 40 on a dual carriageway running along the top of an embankement. For some reason plod asked me what gearbox was in the truck and I told him it was a David Brown. Not the right answer he meant was it manual or automatic. The summons for this arrived the day before the hearing with a note about giving so many days notice if I wanted to plead guilty. I wrote a really snotty letter to the chief constable about them not being to hot on the regulations themselves. Next thing a plod is at my door and says dont worry we will send you another one.And they did as well.

xamtex:
we have had a notice up at our place for a month or so saying the law has changed and hands free is now against the law.

How would they enforce it though ? I.m always talking to myself or singing so how does plod know the difference when they drive past ?

xamtex:
we have had a notice up at our place for a month or so saying the law has changed and hands free is now against the law.

The EU has nothing to do with this law. The only amendment that has or is coming up this year is to make the act of even holding a mobile phone when driving illegal from December.

Hands free is not against the law if you don’t have to touch the phone to use it, ie use autoanswer, voice control or like my car, buttons on the indicator stalk to call/hang up.

xamtex:
we have had a notice up at our place for a month or so saying the law has changed and hands free is now against the law.

Conor:
Hands free is not against the law if you don’t have to touch the phone to use it, ie use autoanswer, voice control or like my car, buttons on the indicator stalk to call/hang up.

Knew I could smell cow dung somewhere…[emoji23]

I wonder what the offence/penalty is for refusing to hand over your mobile phone assuming your daft enough to say you have one…I favour the double sim phones myself though ive never had to swallow simcard 1 and leave simcard 2 for them to play with… :slight_smile: