is that true, hands free is banned? is that now enforced? I am on the hands free most of the day, even to my firm and nobody has said anything to me about it. if it is the case, I’m going to have to put a stop to it.
No proper hands free isn’t banned but if there is the slightest danger of a company being held at least responsible for an accident (because they allowed the driver to be distracted), you can see why some companies are putting their own rules in place about use of phones.
I’m not having a go at anyone who uses a phone on the move, cos in my world one size doesn’t fit all, some people can drive perfectly well smoking a ■■■ drinking a cup of coffee reading a book and having a chat on the phone whilst negotiating Trafalgar Square…yes that is a joke by the way but you get the point…whilst some others are a bloody menace at all times even if they’re going down a straight road concentrating 110% on steering.
The only reason i mentioned the company attitudes is to warn our OP and others that should he pick up a phone offence it will probably limit his selection of companies he can work more than a speeding offence would, those not working for big companies may not have come across this yet but should take it on board, it’s only going to get more widespread.
Some of our brethren are thick though, i still see people at the wheel of lorries holding a mobile phone up to their ear right beside the drivers window, care in the community springs to mind, not only are they blatantly asking for it they’re actually taking the ■■■■ out of any copper by doing so, and they deserve what they have coming…i actually ran alongside an idiot in a rigid today who had his smart (smarter than him) phone perched between his hands on top of the steering wheel typing a message out, wonder how long it would have been before he realised if had been Angus and his oppo in an unlimited tractor unit filming him.
You can’t help idiots like that, they’ll be featuring as some statistic or on a police stop clip at some point.
We have a policy, no phone whatsoever in any operational areas or moving vehicles.
I personally thinks its a good idea there are no grey areas, of course we all know drivers talk whilst driving and you do so at you’re own risk.
We still get members of club plant pot wandering into the office sporting an earpiece, save yourself time and expense I will write “I’m a ■■■■” on you’re forehead with a permanent marker for free.
Juddian:
No proper hands free isn’t banned but if there is the slightest danger of a company being held at least responsible for an accident (because they allowed the driver to be distracted), you can see why some companies are putting their own rules in place about use of phones.I’m not having a go at anyone who uses a phone on the move, cos in my world one size doesn’t fit all, some people can drive perfectly well smoking a ■■■ drinking a cup of coffee reading a book and having a chat on the phone whilst negotiating Trafalgar Square…yes that is a joke by the way but you get the point…whilst some others are a bloody menace at all times even if they’re going down a straight road concentrating 110% on steering.
The only reason i mentioned the company attitudes is to warn our OP and others that should he pick up a phone offence it will probably limit his selection of companies he can work more than a speeding offence would, those not working for big companies may not have come across this yet but should take it on board, it’s only going to get more widespread.
Some of our brethren are thick though, i still see people at the wheel of lorries holding a mobile phone up to their ear right beside the drivers window, care in the community springs to mind, not only are they blatantly asking for it they’re actually taking the ■■■■ out of any copper by doing so, and they deserve what they have coming…i actually ran alongside an idiot in a rigid today who had his smart (smarter than him) phone perched between his hands on top of the steering wheel typing a message out, wonder how long it would have been before he realised if had been Angus and his oppo in an unlimited tractor unit filming him.
You can’t help idiots like that, they’ll be featuring as some statistic or on a police stop clip at some point.
I just don’t understand what is so desperate to talk/communicate about, that they are willing to put themselves and others at serious risk? Not to mention the fine and points…
But it’s not isolated to one type of road user is it? As you see cyclists using the phone! 
And before the lycra brigade jump all over me, it’s the car drivers that really boil my … 
The number (especially at rush hour) that have the phone with it’s charger draped over they leg is unbelievable… And why would it even be there if it’s not to have a cheeky read when needed. Plus a probable reply, which you do see! 
It does my head in, I’m concerned I’m becoming bitter!!!
What do you think Juddian? 
I’m glad I posted this thread its educational and entertaining, Numbum you certainly didn’t have much luck back then! Cant believe a vicar would lie like that especially in them days, but like you said who’d call a vicar a liar!
Juddian, you seem to know what you’re talking about here, I may (or may not) be guilty of occasionally looking at my personal phone (stuck in traffic) and may or may not have answered it in the past while driving and not on hands free. I can see now it really is not worth the risk as it could put the future at risk and at 29 I have a lot of future ahead of me.
Funny Evil8Beezle said that, whilst on the A1M today around Wetherby I was in the inside lane doing 70 when a BMW 1 series with dirt so think you couldn’t see its number plate went past me around 75-80, phone clearly in hand texting away swerving between lane 2 and 3. It then went past me again but I couldn’t remember over taking it 
Also saw a cyclist in York (Clifton area) riding along swerving around on his mobile. Wasn’t sure if they were allowed to do that or not. Would it be classed as a civilian arrest if I knocked him off and sat on him for a bit?
Ghiabox:
I beleive the code for this is SP10 Exceeding goods vehicle speed limit, or words to that affect, so the speed its self probably wouldn’t be questioned, yeah they are the only points I have and the only points I want as when I go to re-insure my car thats gonna cost £160 morelesson learned.
Despite it being a van or lorry, it seems most speeding endorsements result in an SP30, which is probably better as far as insurance is concerned, as it is a more common offence than an SP10.
I lose track of the number of lorry drivers I see in a week, that are driving (badly) with a phone perched to their ear. Not sure why they risk points on their license when a bluetooth headset can be had for less than a tenner, or a wired earphone setup for less than a fiver?
By the same token, I don’t know why lorry drivers purposefully break the speed limits and risk points, when they are hourly paid. It not ‘part of the job’ to put your license at risk.
There are still a handful of companies out there that still insist on clean licenses in their job adverts. After all, would you want your 100K plus investment being driven by a complete bell end?
Ghiabox:
I’m glad I posted this thread its educational and entertaining, Numbum you certainly didn’t have much luck back then! Cant believe a vicar would lie like that especially in them days, but like you said who’d call a vicar a liar!Juddian, you seem to know what you’re talking about here, I may (or may not) be guilty of occasionally looking at my personal phone (stuck in traffic) and may or may not have answered it in the past while driving and not on hands free. I can see now it really is not worth the risk as it could put the future at risk and at 29 I have a lot of future ahead of me.
Funny Evil8Beezle said that, whilst on the A1M today around Wetherby I was in the inside lane doing 70 when a BMW 1 series with dirt so think you couldn’t see its number plate went past me around 75-80, phone clearly in hand texting away swerving between lane 2 and 3. It then went past me again but I couldn’t remember over taking it
Also saw a cyclist in York (Clifton area) riding along swerving around on his mobile. Wasn’t sure if they were allowed to do that or not. Would it be classed as a civilian arrest if I knocked him off and sat on him for a bit?
Depends. If you’re a 25 stone lard arse you might end up getting done for assault and flattening. 
16st body builder.
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Thought I’d update this, the code given for my heinous crime is SP10
Ghiabox:
Thought I’d update this, the code given for my heinous crime is SP10
If you got an SP10 then how come you were doing 80mph or was limiter not working
Whoops, forget that, just seen your other post, didn’t realise you were in a van
Just had a quick Google to satisfy my faded knowledge, but according to the Norfolk woodentops :
norfolk.police.uk/safetyadvi … urses.aspx
Did one myself a bit over a year ago. 38 in a 30 at 03.15 on a deserted Ipswich Road (Norwich)
Ghiabox:
Thought I’d update this, the code given for my heinous crime is SP10
Interesting, I got a bog standard SP30 for doing 51 mph on the A9.
It seems it can be a bit random which one they put it on as.
I got a sp30 written on my paper licence by the court when I did 97mph in a 60mph in a van. When I renewed my licence it came back as a sp10 which it should have been originally.