if you have points on your licence, or a distant drink drive etc.
then you will probably find the following link a little interesting.
Still means you did the crime…Continue with the time. Doesn’t change ■■■■■■. Tough ■■■■■■■. Shouldn’t drink and drive, end of. 
Dated Feb 2003.
Do you have any convictions slimeyphil?
Agree Mr V
So five years or more after beating an old lady over the head while in a drug induced frenzy and stealing her handbag that would not have to be revealed but if you were just over the limit 10 years previously that would still be on your licence and you could be turned down for a job because of it.
I know which one I would rather have to declare.
In every way the driver of any vehicle is hammered, be it offences or running costs.
dinosteveus1:
Dated Feb 2003.
Do you have any convictions slimeyphil?Agree Mr V
3 points.
plenty of court appearences, i never pay tickets, always go to court.
but the point of the link is to highlight that some employers and insurance companies are in breach of the rehabilitation of offenders act. so people have done the time for the crime. but they shouldn’t be punished again.
limeyphil:
dinosteveus1:
Dated Feb 2003.
Do you have any convictions slimeyphil?Agree Mr V
3 points.
plenty of court appearences, i never pay tickets, always go to court.
but the point of the link is to highlight that some employers and insurance companies are in breach of the rehabilitation of offenders act. so people have done the time for the crime. but they shouldn’t be punished again.
Drink driving should carry a 10 year ban, imo. End of. NO Excuse.
My Cousin was hit by a DD, she was a Nurse and after the incident she couldn’t do anything for herself, needed 24/7 care, 8 years later she died. The Scum DD only got a 3 year ban. No excuse for even one drink and getting behind the wheel.
So, what next? The CRB checks shouldn’t show up a convicted axe murderer after he comes out of Jail?
The problem I see here is the typical moaning of an ex drink/driver and the insurance companies using any reason to increase premiums. But why should someone who’s been done for drink driving ever get his insurance the same price as those who haven’t? If a conviction is spent after X years, I agree it’s complete bollox that it remains on your licence for extra years so the court has a record of the conviction for future convictions. Do rapists get issued with a ■■■■ licence so the courts can see their previous convictions, it’s quite laughable that this is the best excuse they could think of for the extra years of the tarnish on your licence.
IMO they need to make it much simpler. All previous convictions for motoring offences should be freely available to anyone who wants to know about them as the guy in question may have only been nicked for drink driving once, but I doubt he only ever did it once! New boyfriend for the daughter, a quick tap on the computer and he’s been done twice for speeding and a TWOC or similar.
I get sick of the bleating from people who reckon they got caught the one and only time they did something. Go and tell your lies to someone who is daft enough to believe it.
In fact, why just stop at motoring offences? Make everybody’s criminal records an open book for everyone to access!
A crime is a crime. Don’t drink and drive. It ain’t rocket science is it?
bigvern1:
A crime is a crime. Don’t drink and drive. It ain’t rocket science is it?
everyone is capable of making a ■■■■ up. but is it right to carry on punishing them even when they have served a ban, or been to prison.
a relative was convicted of DD a long time ago, it was the morning after, he felt fine, and was on his way to work. he is not the sort of person to deliberatley drink and drive, just an error of judgement. but he was banned in just the same way that they ban someone rolling out of a blackpool nightclub, and into his car.
So…Go to prison for mugging a phone off a teenager. You get a criminal record. They knew what they were doing, when they did it.
Get ■■■■■■■ knowing you are gonna drive the next morning. Same thing.
limeyphil:
bigvern1:
A crime is a crime. Don’t drink and drive. It ain’t rocket science is it?everyone is capable of making a ■■■■ up. but is it right to carry on punishing them even when they have served a ban, or been to prison.
a relative was convicted of DD a long time ago, it was the morning after, he felt fine, and was on his way to work. he is not the sort of person to deliberatley drink and drive, just an error of judgement. but he was banned in just the same way that they ban someone rolling out of a blackpool nightclub, and into his car.
Oh look, slimeyphil is making excuses for a Drink Driver. Not interested Phil, a Drink Driver is a Drink Driver and should be banned. It’s not rocket science, a couple of drinks the night before isn’t going to put you over the ‘limit’ the next morning so, your ‘relative’ must have been ■■■■ faced the night before.
“I’m going to drive tomorrow so I best only have 1 or 2 drinks tonight” or did he think " sod it, I’m gonna get plastered, I won’t get caught, I didn’t last time" Which was it■■?
Its not just drink driving, lesser convictions speeding, using a mobile etc, which carry points, which in turn are ‘spent’ after three years, yet insurance companies always ask for convictions in the last five years. Its more to do with insurance companies continually ripping motorist off for as long as they can.
limeyphil:
bigvern1:
A crime is a crime. Don’t drink and drive. It ain’t rocket science is it?everyone is capable of making a ■■■■ up. but is it right to carry on punishing them even when they have served a ban, or been to prison.
a relative was convicted of DD a long time ago, it was the morning after, he felt fine, and was on his way to work. he is not the sort of person to deliberatley drink and drive, just an error of judgement. but he was banned in just the same way that they ban someone rolling out of a blackpool nightclub, and into his car.
I wonder just how many times he had done it before and not got stopped, I also wonder if you would feel that someone was so ‘wronged’ if it had been the other way round and your family had been on the receiving end of a morning after drink driver.
bluenose:
Its not just drink driving, lesser convictions speeding, using a mobile etc, which carry points, which in turn are ‘spent’ after three years, yet insurance companies always ask for convictions in the last five years. Its more to do with insurance companies continually ripping motorist off for as long as they can.
It’s the same thing Mr Small Heath. These are “OFFENCES”. Those convicted of these crimes knew what they were doing. So should be punished for as long as possible.
if a offence is on your licence for x amount of years then you should declare it until it comes off licence or even u should declare it regardless of how long ago it was
peewee:
if a offence is on your licence for x amount of years then you should declare it until it comes off licence or even u should declare it regardless of how long ago it was
No you shouldn’t, if you read the financial ombudsmans report, it clearly says that the DR10 only stays on the licence for sentencing purposes. (If you are done twice within a ten year period for instance)
The offence is spent after 5 years under the Rehabilitation of Offenders Act 1974, and should be removed from the licence than, it is even easier now that we have DVLA Links, ANPR, PNC, 53 years continuous licensing while we keep the same driver number to keep track of disqualifications and endorsements.
I have noticed more and more recently though on insurance forms, the questions have been slightly altered to;
“Have you had an accident within the last 3 years?” and “Have you been convicted of ANY motoring offence within the last 5 years?”
If you answer NO and you have, than that is fraud.
And if they ask “any offences in the last 10 yrs” and you say No when you have, that’s still fraud. And if you say, none of your business, they refuse to quote you. The company is quite within the law to set it’s own business terms and if I wanted to set up an insurance company where I would refuse to insure anyone who has ever been done for drink driving I could and there is nothing any court could do about it. And if anyone lied and then got found out, they would be uninsured.
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personally if i had my way if u were caught drink driving you should be banned from driving for life no excuse for it
DoYouMeanMe?:
And if they ask “any offences in the last 10 yrs” and you say No when you have, that’s still fraud. And if you say, none of your business, they refuse to quote you. The company is quite within the law to set it’s own business terms and if I wanted to set up an insurance company where I would refuse to insure anyone who has ever been done for drink driving I could and there is nothing any court could do about it. And if anyone lied and then got found out, they would be uninsured.
Yes you could set your own terms and conditions, but like credit cards, that is what the banks have done. Not everyone has or wants a Platinum card.
The fact is the question as the law stands now should be, have you had any motoring convictions within the last 5 years?