My last two insurances quotes have even asked if I have any other criminal convictions, nothing to do with motoring.
Turn it around though. If you had a truck needing a driver and an applicant had been done for Drink/drive three times, but the last one was over ten years ago, wouldn’t you want to know before you set him on or maybe decided not to…
DoYouMeanMe?:
My last two insurances quotes have even asked if I have any other criminal convictions, nothing to do with motoring.
Turn it around though. If you had a truck needing a driver and an applicant had been done for Drink/drive three times, but the last one was over ten years ago, wouldn’t you want to know before you set him on or maybe decided not to…
People change in months, Ten years ago he has probably settled down with a new or second wife and children, probably not had a drink for months or even years, yet you want to tar him for life. It didn’t affect me, I didn’t harm anyone and my licence is now clean. I have only ever had endorsements for 2 speeding convictions, both of them over 30 years ago.
I consider it to be a different matter if you kill someone whilst at the wheel, whether you were ■■■■■■ or not.
dinosteveus1:
limeyphil:
bigvern1:
A crime is a crime. Don’t drink and drive. It ain’t rocket science is it?everyone is capable of making a ■■■■ up. but is it right to carry on punishing them even when they have served a ban, or been to prison.
a relative was convicted of DD a long time ago, it was the morning after, he felt fine, and was on his way to work. he is not the sort of person to deliberatley drink and drive, just an error of judgement. but he was banned in just the same way that they ban someone rolling out of a blackpool nightclub, and into his car.Oh look, slimeyphil is making excuses for a Drink Driver. Not interested Phil, a Drink Driver is a Drink Driver and should be banned. It’s not rocket science, a couple of drinks the night before isn’t going to put you over the ‘limit’ the next morning so, your ‘relative’ must have been ■■■■ faced the night before.
“I’m going to drive tomorrow so I best only have 1 or 2 drinks tonight” or did he think " sod it, I’m gonna get plastered, I won’t get caught, I didn’t last time" Which was it■■?
i’m not making excuses for him. i’m just stating the facts.
i’m also stating that the law says one thing, and insurance companies are trying to rip people off by ignoring the rehabilitation of offenders act.
Killing someone can be the result of a momentary lapse, a split second moment that will haunt you forever. If you’ve ever crashed or spun a motor, you are lucks margin away from killing someone. DD is not a mistake or accident, it is a deliberate two fingers at the rest of the world IMO. Now I’m not talking about a couple of points over, more about the cases and people I know, who have been plastered and then bitched 'cos they got caught.
Easy for me to spout though, I don’t drink. I used to and at 15 ■■■■ nearly finished a yard of ale once, but after I got my licence, no chance. I’d rather them shoot me than take my licence away.
limeyphil:
i’m not making excuses for him. i’m just stating the facts.
i’m also stating that the law says one thing, and insurance companies are trying to rip people off by ignoring the rehabilitation of offenders act.
Sounds like it.
Anyway, if you can’t do the time, don’t do the Crime, no ■■■■■■■ excuse for DD, NONE.
dinosteveus1:
limeyphil:
i’m not making excuses for him. i’m just stating the facts.
i’m also stating that the law says one thing, and insurance companies are trying to rip people off by ignoring the rehabilitation of offenders act.Sounds like it.
Anyway, if you can’t do the time, don’t do the Crime, no ■■■■■■■ excuse for DD, NONE.
i totally agree. “if you can’t do the time, don’t do the crime”.
but why should someone be punished even more when they have done the time and, (in the eyes of the law) been rehabilitated?
If someone murders someone else. Does the time, gets rehabilitated. Doesn’t mean they won’t do it again. Life ban DD. I agree. Especially if someone gets killed.
Insurance companies set their own terms, and I think that they should be brought into line with the law. Points for speeding can be removed from your licence after four years and yet insurance companies penalise you for five years. If they said we’ll penalise you for four years but if you’re Asian/Scottish/Overweight or WHY, it will be for 5 years - would this be allowed…■■
Also, people are penalised on where they live…high risk areas etc based on statistics for those areas…now I understand from a friend in the insurance business that certain ethnic groups are a higher risk than others but…can you imagine if the insurers said,'you pay more because statistics show that you are a higher risk because you’re Afro/Welsh/French/Asian/A Southerner■■? This would not be tolerated and would be banned instantly.
Why is it OK for the law to accept your punishment is over after four years but insurance companies insist on five??
It’s simply because they can charge you more for longer…most insurance practice stats are based on more profit, less pay out…they like collecting money not paying out…
But isn’t it human nature that you are ‘tarred’ for life? As a pair of examples, a woman that lived near me got done for shop-lifting from the local shop when she was quite old, maybe she would now be classed as suffering from dementia and let off, but back then it was a social scandal and up until she died she was always referred to as ‘light fingered Lizzie’. Another got a till-job when the first big supermarket chain came to town and she got caught for altering a cheque from £7 to £17 pounds and some pence and putting ‘teen’ in the writing and then taking the £10 note out of the till so everything balanced. I really don’t know if she got away with some or got caught on her first attempt, but even now, 30 yrs on, every time I see her or her husband, the first thought that comes into my mind is her fiddling. I don’t wish her any ill, she’s my mates mum, but it’s just the way I think and it can’t be uncommon as many others have said the same.
DoYouMeanMe?:
But isn’t it human nature that you are ‘tarred’ for life? As a pair of examples, a woman that lived near me got done for shop-lifting from the local shop when she was quite old, maybe she would now be classed as suffering from dementia and let off, but back then it was a social scandal and up until she died she was always referred to as ‘light fingered Lizzie’. Another got a till-job when the first big supermarket chain came to town and she got caught for altering a cheque from £7 to £17 pounds and some pence and putting ‘teen’ in the writing and then taking the £10 note out of the till so everything balanced. I really don’t know if she got away with some or got caught on her first attempt, but even now, 30 yrs on, every time I see her or her husband, the first thought that comes into my mind is her fiddling. I don’t wish her any ill, she’s my mates mum, but it’s just the way I think and it can’t be uncommon as many others have said the same.
A man goes into a friendly pub in a small town and, was introduced to the clientele. There’s Farmer Jack, Barman Jim, Vegetable Bob, Maurice “Dancer” and Sheepshagger John. After a few pints, the visitor’s curiosity gets the better of him and he asks John what’s with the nicknames.
“See this pub?” asks John, "I built it from the ground up, but they don’t call me builder John? I’m the local doctor, I saved Barman Jim’s life once when he choked on a peanut, but they don’t call me Doctor John. Every year, I supply a huge Christmas tree for the village green, but they don’t call me Benevolent John.
“But shag one lousy sheep…”
I actually told a very similar joke to a Welsh barman on a Greek Island once and he asked us to leave, the difference was I used his name 
bigvern1:
bluenose:
Its not just drink driving, lesser convictions speeding, using a mobile etc, which carry points, which in turn are ‘spent’ after three years, yet insurance companies always ask for convictions in the last five years. Its more to do with insurance companies continually ripping motorist off for as long as they can.It’s the same thing Mr Small Heath. These are “OFFENCES”. Those convicted of these crimes knew what they were doing. So should be punished for as long as possible.
Its Mr Bluenose to you Fat Div.
Div…HA HA…Ain’t heard that for years. 
bigvern1:
Div…HA HA…Ain’t heard that for years.
Can’t disagree with ‘div’, soz, but fat■■? Are you fat Mr V?
Oh yeah…
bigvern1:
Oh yeah…
Ummmm how did he know?
your big not fat, ya div.
Cheers Lover. 
peewee:
personally if i had my way if u were caught drink driving you should be banned from driving for life no excuse for it
Then your a ■■■■■■ IMO,one mistake and some people actually learn by them funnily enough, and you would implement that BS
Your a prick!!
Thetaff:
peewee:
personally if i had my way if u were caught drink driving you should be banned from driving for life no excuse for itThen your a ■■■■■■ IMO,one mistake and some people actually learn by them funnily enough, and you would implement that BS
Your a prick!!
