Beatock was busy today on both roads and i got myself a lovely PG9 for abs1 AMBER light that came on after anchoring on for a ^%& who wanted to force his way infront of me. Anyway explained to officer and the git has not only put the trailer in for re test but my bloody unit to. Got to yard had a interview gunned down from all angles just a thanks VOSA for making a big deal over something little brakes still worked fine and i stopped quite well when he stood in the middle of the road to pull me in.
We’d get a pg 9 for every trailer we’ve got the amber 1 light doesn’t go out on ours till you go over 7kph . I told a vosa chap exactly that and he said he’d never heard of such a thing, I told him to read the warning plate on the headboard of the trailer which clearly states the speed it goes out.
I was tempted to tell him he needed more training
Trev_H:
We’d get a pg 9 for every trailer we’ve got the amber 1 light doesn’t go out on ours till you go over 7kph . I told a vosa chap exactly that and he said he’d never heard of such a thing, I told him to read the warning plate on the headboard of the trailer which clearly states the speed it goes out.
I was tempted to tell him he needed more training
They all know ■■■■ well this is the case and are hoping the driver doesn’t
Easy way and they dont like it if you do this, when they stop you turn your ing off as a lot of trailers need to be over 7~10kph to go out , they cannot pg9 you if you pull up and turn the ing off straight away if they ask why you have done that eeeeer gotta save fuel no standing tickover lol, one for the memory bank for you boys or defect it before they come to you and show them its only happend a short while ago its reported and defected look vostapos 0. haulier 1
I didnt have the handbrake on and he was in the cab! I will smile hapily if we can get it overturned ive sent that link onto the transport team its upto them now.
That’s all very well but how on earth do you “prove” that an ABS light was not on at the start of a journey when VOSA stop you at the roadside?
Paul
The only way you could prove it wasn’t on at the start of your shift would be to fill in a defect sheet as soon as the fault presents itself, making sure the date and time is written on the defect note. Also would be wise to phone your traffic office to inform them so they could also make an official log of the defect too.
Yea but the hard shoulder is for emergency use only not for paperwork unfortunately for me the next layby had a vosa car in it And defect sheets are NOT a legal requirement if you have no defects, their own paper says that for nil defects a log is not required I never fill one in for NIL but always have defect sheets to hand as i demonstrated earlier today.
Danny27404:
Yea but the hard shoulder is for emergency use only not for paperwork unfortunately for me the next layby had a vosa car in it And defect sheets are NOT a legal requirement if you have no defects, their own paper says that for nil defects a log is not required I never fill one in for NIL but always have defect sheets to hand as i demonstrated earlier today.
This is a good example of a ‘nil’ defect sheet being useful to have. They would then need to prove that ‘nil’ defect was wrong.
The FTA guide already linked to offers excellent advice. if you also have a copy of that in your cab with your ‘nil’ defect or a defect sheet with details of when the light came on and what you did about it … shouldn’t get a PG9 - as long as the light is amber.
I give the FTA ABS guide to drivers during DCPC training and explain how to use it. Following that procedure can be the difference between PG9 or not.
What I don’t get with this case - if the next layby had VOSA in it - how can then prove otherwise if you say the light came on 1 minute ago and I’m pulling in here to sort it?? I suppose a ‘nil’ defect sheet would possibly help there
As far as I know a PG9 cannot be overuled. Once issued it has to be dealt with. Might be able to get the points knocked back off the OCRS score but I doubt it.
Danny27404:
Yea but the hard shoulder is for emergency use only not for paperwork unfortunately for me the next layby had a vosa car in it And defect sheets are NOT a legal requirement if you have no defects, their own paper says that for nil defects a log is not required I never fill one in for NIL but always have defect sheets to hand as i demonstrated earlier today.
They may not be a legal requirement, but they are good practice. I think it probably has been covered on here somewhere before and different people have different opinion about Nil Defect reporting, but I think if you can show a VOSA person some form of paperwork showing that you do daily checks on your vehicle, and you log when and what defects occur, then they might be more inclined to believe you. It could make the difference of weather you get a PG9 or not.
As for a VOSA car being in the very next layby after your light came on, you can only put that down to very bad luck.
Danny27404:
Yea but the hard shoulder is for emergency use only not for paperwork unfortunately for me the next layby had a vosa car in it And defect sheets are NOT a legal requirement if you have no defects, their own paper says that for nil defects a log is not required I never fill one in for NIL but always have defect sheets to hand as i demonstrated earlier today.
This is a good example of a ‘nil’ defect sheet being useful to have. They would then need to prove that ‘nil’ defect was wrong.
The FTA guide already linked to offers excellent advice. if you also have a copy of that in your cab with your ‘nil’ defect or a defect sheet with details of when the light came on and what you did about it … shouldn’t get a PG9 - as long as the light is amber.
I give the FTA ABS guide to drivers during DCPC training and explain how to use it. Following that procedure can be the difference between PG9 or not.
What I don’t get with this case - if the next layby had VOSA in it - how can then prove otherwise if you say the light came on 1 minute ago and I’m pulling in here to sort it?? I suppose a ‘nil’ defect sheet would possibly help there
As far as I know a PG9 cannot be overuled. Once issued it has to be dealt with. Might be able to get the points knocked back off the OCRS score but I doubt it.
If you read the conditions on the back of a pg9 form it states that you cannot apeal the form, you can only appeal it after its been removed, ridiculous!!
the amber 1 light doesn’t go out on ours till you go over 7kph . I told a vosa chap exactly that and he said he’d never heard of such a thing, I told him to read the warning plate on the headboard of the trailer which clearly states the speed it goes out.
