robroy:
Doesn’t look like the petition is going to be too successful eh?
Any comments from the o/p?
Perhaps she’s found an EDL forum, cos she’s not feeling the love on here…
She seemed like a nice lass too, I kinda feel sorry for her makes her first post then isripped to shreds by a pack of wolves, I suppose she is out there somewhere in some truckstop or layby trying to cheer herself up with some DICKENS CIDER.
EDL?? just curious.
No, I reckon she will get it how T.net works, and take it in the right way, you usually find a woman competing in a predominate male setting usually holds her own…no not like that (you started this with the Dicken’s Cider )
Felt a tad guilty after what you said, and being a bit bored I checked out her posts
( yeh, I know, but I said I was bored ) all of her 3 posts make a reference to foreign drivers, so I’m thinking hidden agenda, ie. maybe Karl, Petrov, or Jan has maybe done a runner at one time
woman scorned, hell, fury, etc etc…
What have I said, she’s gonna hate me now
robroy:
Doesn’t look like the petition is going to be too successful eh?
Any comments from the o/p?
Perhaps she’s found an EDL forum, cos she’s not feeling the love on here…
She seemed like a nice lass too, I kinda feel sorry for her makes her first post then isripped to shreds by a pack of wolves, I suppose she is out there somewhere in some truckstop or layby trying to cheer herself up with some DICKENS CIDER.
EDL?? just curious.
No, I reckon she will get it how T.net works, and take it in the right way, you usually find a woman competing in a predominate male setting usually holds her own…no not like that (you started this with the Dicken’s Cider )
Felt a tad guilty after what you said, and being a bit bored I checked out her posts
( yeh, I know, but I said I was bored ) all of her 3 posts make a reference to foreign drivers, so I’m thinking hidden agenda, ie. maybe Karl, Petrov, or Jan has maybe done a runner at one time
woman sc_orned, hell, fury, etc etc…
What have I said, she’s gonna hate me now
Just having a laugh Wender’s… sorry
EDL is the English Defence League a “political” party along the lines of the national front. The sort of racist, redneck morons that would sign anything that was anti-foreigner.
robroy:
Doesn’t look like the petition is going to be too successful eh?
Any comments from the o/p?
Perhaps she’s found an EDL forum, cos she’s not feeling the love on here…
She seemed like a nice lass too, I kinda feel sorry for her makes her first post then isripped to shreds by a pack of wolves, I suppose she is out there somewhere in some truckstop or layby trying to cheer herself up with some DICKENS CIDER.
EDL?? just curious.
No, I reckon she will get it how T.net works, and take it in the right way, you usually find a woman competing in a predominate male setting usually holds her own…no not like that (you started this with the Dicken’s Cider )
Felt a tad guilty after what you said, and being a bit bored I checked out her posts
( yeh, I know, but I said I was bored ) all of her 3 posts make a reference to foreign drivers, so I’m thinking hidden agenda, ie. maybe Karl, Petrov, or Jan has maybe done a runner at one time
woman sc_orned, hell, fury, etc etc…
What have I said, she’s gonna hate me now
Just having a laugh Wender’s… sorry
EDL is the English Defence League a “political” party along the lines of the national front. The sort of racist, redneck morons that would sign anything that was anti-foreigner.
Cheers, that’s cleared that up then!
At least after that accusation it doesn’t make mine look as bad.
Pressure off me on to you now I reckon
robroy:
Doesn’t look like the petition is going to be too successful eh?
Any comments from the o/p?
Perhaps she’s found an EDL forum, cos she’s not feeling the love on here…
She seemed like a nice lass too, I kinda feel sorry for her makes her first post then isripped to shreds by a pack of wolves, I suppose she is out there somewhere in some truckstop or layby trying to cheer herself up with some DICKENS CIDER.
EDL?? just curious.
No, I reckon she will get it how T.net works, and take it in the right way, you usually find a woman competing in a predominate male setting usually holds her own…no not like that (you started this with the Dicken’s Cider )
Felt a tad guilty after what you said, and being a bit bored I checked out her posts
( yeh, I know, but I said I was bored ) all of her 3 posts make a reference to foreign drivers, so I’m thinking hidden agenda, ie. maybe Karl, Petrov, or Jan has maybe done a runner at one time
woman sc_orned, hell, fury, etc etc…
What have I said, she’s gonna hate me now
Just having a laugh Wender’s… sorry
EDL is the English Defence League a “political” party along the lines of the national front. The sort of racist, redneck morons that would sign anything that was anti-foreigner.
Cheers, that’s cleared that up then!
At least after that accusation it doesn’t make mine look as bad.
Pressure off me on to you now I reckon
Nah, I’m not suggesting the op was racist, just I’ll advised. I’m just pointing out that it would appeal to racists, who tend not to think things through…
robroy:
Doesn’t look like the petition is going to be too successful eh?
Any comments from the o/p?
Perhaps she’s found an EDL forum, cos she’s not feeling the love on here…
She seemed like a nice lass too, I kinda feel sorry for her makes her first post then isripped to shreds by a pack of wolves, I suppose she is out there somewhere in some truckstop or layby trying to cheer herself up with some DICKENS CIDER.
EDL?? just curious.
No, I reckon she will get it how T.net works, and take it in the right way, you usually find a woman competing in a predominate male setting usually holds her own…no not like that (you started this with the Dicken’s Cider )
Felt a tad guilty after what you said, and being a bit bored I checked out her posts
( yeh, I know, but I said I was bored ) all of her 3 posts make a reference to foreign drivers, so I’m thinking hidden agenda, ie. maybe Karl, Petrov, or Jan has maybe done a runner at one time
woman scorned, hell, fury, etc etc…
What have I said, she’s gonna hate me now
Winseer:
Has anyone considered that even if we closed our borders to all immigrants AND deported all those already here (totally impractical btw) - we’d still be swamped by all those trucks coming here that get driven by those that do not live, or intend STAYING here.
A far easier way of turning this crappy situation to our advantage therefore, is to charge per day per foreign plated vehicle in this country, regardless of it being “on road or not”. If it’s inside the UK - You pay a £10 per day charge.
If you can’t beat 'em - at least let’s end the austerity for the rest of us by soaking them, so that only the best-heeled will consider coming here to visit or live in the first place.
Once upon a time - you had to be fairly wealthy to be a “tourist” of any description.
Assuming anyone is familiar with driving in the old Yugoslavia at least they’d need to be blind and deaf and a raving socialist to not notice that there are historic ‘issues’ in the case of east european and at least Turkish driving standards.The Russian dash cam footage confirms similar to date.
As for sorting out the ridiculous inbalance in the amount of British registered trucks and/or British drivers transporting our imports and exports,it seems obvious that we need a quota system,which makes it compulsory,for at least 50% of loads leaving and entering the country have go on a British registered truck.As for leaving the EU and thereby denying/removing work permits to east European labour here as we choose,including on a retrospective basis,where’s the problem.Bearing in mind the issue of British drivers losing their work permit status in New Zealand on a retrospective basis.
It seems obvious to who? In order for 50% of loads entering the country to be on UK trucks, we’d need to have a huge fleet of trucks spread across Europe ready to collect them, and all the other countries in Europe would have to give us priority over their own vehicles. The only thing that’s obvious is what a stupid suggestion it is.
exportsfleet of trucks and loads of drivers just like the East Euros are doing now shifting around 75-80% if not more of the loads entering and leaving the country.
As for ‘priority’ which part of ‘quotas’ don’t you understand.
Are you aware that you’re poking holes in you own argument? The east Euros Have a huge fleet of trucks…we haven’t! How many trucks do you think we have on Euro work?
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The size of the truck fleet reflects the demand for its services.Which is the issue in this case and which would obviously take quotas to bring back more in our favour so that UK operators can put more trucks on the road employing more UK drivers.Rather than the status quo of your idea which,for some reason, seems to be all about defending the current situation of the massive inbalance in east Euro operators getting most/all of the benefit of the trade between here and Europe etc.
Winseer:
Has anyone considered that even if we closed our borders to all immigrants AND deported all those already here (totally impractical btw) - we’d still be swamped by all those trucks coming here that get driven by those that do not live, or intend STAYING here.
A far easier way of turning this crappy situation to our advantage therefore, is to charge per day per foreign plated vehicle in this country, regardless of it being “on road or not”. If it’s inside the UK - You pay a £10 per day charge.
If you can’t beat 'em - at least let’s end the austerity for the rest of us by soaking them, so that only the best-heeled will consider coming here to visit or live in the first place.
Once upon a time - you had to be fairly wealthy to be a “tourist” of any description.
Assuming anyone is familiar with driving in the old Yugoslavia at least they’d need to be blind and deaf and a raving socialist to not notice that there are historic ‘issues’ in the case of east european and at least Turkish driving standards.The Russian dash cam footage confirms similar to date.
As for sorting out the ridiculous inbalance in the amount of British registered trucks and/or British drivers transporting our imports and exports,it seems obvious that we need a quota system,which makes it compulsory,for at least 50% of loads leaving and entering the country have go on a British registered truck.As for leaving the EU and thereby denying/removing work permits to east European labour here as we choose,including on a retrospective basis,where’s the problem.Bearing in mind the issue of British drivers losing their work permit status in New Zealand on a retrospective basis.
It seems obvious to who? In order for 50% of loads entering the country to be on UK trucks, we’d need to have a huge fleet of trucks spread across Europe ready to collect them, and all the other countries in Europe would have to give us priority over their own vehicles. The only thing that’s obvious is what a stupid suggestion it is.
exportsfleet of trucks and loads of drivers just like the East Euros are doing now shifting around 75-80% if not more of the loads entering and leaving the country.
As for ‘priority’ which part of ‘quotas’ don’t you understand.
Are you aware that you’re poking holes in you own argument? The east Euros Have a huge fleet of trucks…we haven’t! How many trucks do you think we have on Euro work?
The size of the truck fleet reflects the demand for its services.Which is the issue in this case and which would obviously take quotas to bring back more in our favour so that UK operators can put more trucks on the road employing more UK drivers.Rather than the status quo of your idea which,for some reason, seems to be all about defending the current situation of the massive inbalance in east Euro operators getting most/all of the benefit of the trade between here and Europe etc.
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The status quo of my idea? Just what idea are you talking about? And for the record, where do you get your figures for this massive imbalance you’re banging on about? Is it from the voices in your head?
Carryfast:
The size of the truck fleet reflects the demand for its services.Which is the issue in this case and which would obviously take quotas to bring back more in our favour so that UK operators can put more trucks on the road employing more UK drivers.Rather than the status quo of your idea which,for some reason, seems to be all about defending the current situation of the massive inbalance in east Euro operators getting most/all of the benefit of the trade between here and Europe etc.
The status quo of my idea? Just what idea are you talking about? And for the record, where do you get your figures for this massive imbalance you’re banging on about? Is it from the voices in your head?
Status quo generally means leaving things as they are which seems a fair description of what you’re saying.
Assuming you’ve got access to any figures,showing any large scale proportional change in favour of domestic operators,since these articles,I suggest you post them.
wenders66:
It"s time for action…
I"m a female driver, have been for 20 years next year, I"m out all week every week Tramping on a curtain side Artic. Everywhere I collect and deliver, and every truck stop I stay at, I hear the same conversation over and over…British drivers, shunters and warehouse staff always complaining about the foreign drivers that can"t drive!! They can!t drive because they have never had training nor sat a test…They brag about buying their fake HGV licences for peanuts in their home countries, then come over here and they are allowed to drive for British Companies on these fake licences. We all know its happening and it"s about time we got together to stop this happening.
wenders66:
I am not insinuating in any way that ALL Foreign Drivers working in this country are doing so on fake Licences, and those that have legitimately trained and gained their HGV Licences in their home countries should have no reservations about repeating the test here!!!
Belive me you would not pass a test in many EE countries.
I think the only answer is for companies to do proper licence checks with the licence agency of the issuing country, and not just rely on the card they’ve been handed. I think it’s quite easy to do in the UK and I’m sure it’s not impossible for other European countries.
m1cks:
Problem is theres plenty of home grown drivers that need re-testing first.
You said it, and yes, we definitely cant tar all the foreign drivers with the same brush. Some of the finest drivers Ive encounbtered have come from eastern Europe. Whats really required is police on the roads to weed out the bad drivers of any nationality.
if drivers want found job-must have Uk full driving licence.every agency check licence every 6 month.just small compoanies may be not check.about tests-drivers must follow rulles in any country.but for thin don t needed tests,nedd more control from Police.but now you can make tests every day but if not control from VOSA and Police …
No, I know when I’m beaten. He used the rolling eyes smiley to prove his argument. I’m powerless in the face of such relentless logic
More like I provided the figures from reliable sources to back my argument but you obviously couldn’t provide any to back yours.
Your figures aren’t the problem…I’ve never disputed that there’s imbalance, and if you read posts properly you’d realise that.
Your fantasy of the rest of Europe willingly giving us half of there UK bound loads is the problem. Your idea that the British transport industry could cope with all this extra work is the problem. You call it a 50% quota, but a quota has to be agreed by both sides, and can you really see the French going for that? What you suggest is impractical, unworkable, illogical and illegal. And if you can’t see how ridiculous your proposal is…I’m afraid that is YOUR problem.
(you started this with the Dicken’s Cider 
) all of her 3 posts make a reference to foreign drivers, so I’m thinking hidden agenda, ie. maybe Karl, Petrov, or Jan has maybe done a runner at one time 
it doesn’t make mine look as bad.
