I have to pick up a 32 x 10 canteen module then transport it into London , apparently I’ve got to get a permit for it and deliver it sat 7 am.
I’ve never used a permit before so can any one explain what there about , it’s basically Manchester - london , do I have to follow a set route , I’m picking it up very early fri morn so I was then going to go home ( Grantham) then start early Saturday morning and into London ,
Can I do Manchester - Grantham - London , or do I have to go direct to London parking up on route
Ta
Nb I know home is out the way but 32x 10 buildings , tower crane bits after has got me very nervous , so being at home fri afternoon / night will hopefully takes mind away from the job .ta
N. B what does the 32 mean , I understand 10 to be 10 ft wide , is 32 , the length , is there set heights for these buildings ta
I do apologise if it’s basic stuff , but never done it and it would help me feel less apprehensive if I had a idea what I was getting into ta
no it will be 32ft wide and 10ft long so get mirror extensions fitted
You really do need to find out the height and plan the route accordingly as there are quite a lot of low bridges in London
A permit for London means a permit to use roads covered by the London Lorry Control scheme. It means you’re allowed to travel along roads covered by the scheme, but you must use excluded roads until you reach the nearest point to your destination, and use the shortest distance along restricted (main) roads.
You can find out about the London Lorry Control Scheme here, along with a map of the excluded roads: London Lorry Control | London Councils – if you have to travel this Saturday, I’m not sure you’ve left enough time to get the permit anyway. If your destination is on an excluded road (they include a lot of industrial estates), you don’t need a permit. Never had to use it myself.
I suggest you ask your boss if you need to use a set route to get to London. I see a lot of wide cabins go down the M1 any time I use it; they’re not going slowly, they don’t appear to have escorts and they usually have their flashing yellow lights on but no more than that. Getting through London might be more tricky because of low bridges and so on.
MrH:
You really do need to find out the height and plan the route accordingly as there are quite a lot of low bridges in London
I won’t see the load until tomorrow , I’m told its 10 ft wide so I need a permit , I had it in my mind you’d have a set route , but u til I see permit I don’t know what it tells me , I’ve a tape measure but at a certain height it collapses on itself .
I’ll just measure it as best I can , ask the loaders , check my truckers height book , and if all else fails stay in bed ( joke ) , set truck sat nav to 16 gt 3 inch .
Another sleepless night , then there’s the tower crane 
dozy:
I have to pick up a 32 x 10 canteen module then transport it into London , apparently I’ve got to get a permit for it and deliver it sat 7 am.
I’ve never used a permit before so can any one explain what there about , it’s basically Manchester - london , do I have to follow a set route , I’m picking it up very early fri morn so I was then going to go home ( Grantham) then start early Saturday morning and into London ,
Can I do Manchester - Grantham - London , or do I have to go direct to London parking up on route
Ta
Nb I know home is out the way but 32x 10 buildings , tower crane bits after has got me very nervous , so being at home fri afternoon / night will hopefully takes mind away from the job .ta
N. B what does the 32 mean , I understand 10 to be 10 ft wide , is 32 , the length , is there set heights for these buildings ta
I do apologise if it’s basic stuff , but never done it and it would help me feel less apprehensive if I had a idea what I was getting into ta
Crikey, what about the rest of us■■?
IndigoJo:
A permit for London means a permit to use roads covered by the London Lorry Control scheme. It means you’re allowed to travel along roads covered by the scheme, but you must use excluded roads until you reach the nearest point to your destination, and use the shortest distance along restricted (main) roads.You can find out about the London Lorry Control Scheme here, along with a map of the excluded roads: London Lorry Control | London Councils – if you have to travel this Saturday, I’m not sure you’ve left enough time to get the permit anyway. If your destination is on an excluded road (they include a lot of industrial estates), you don’t need a permit. Never had to use it myself.
I suggest you ask your boss if you need to use a set route to get to London. I see a lot of wide cabins go down the M1 any time I use it; they’re not going slowly, they don’t appear to have escorts and they usually have their flashing yellow lights on but no more than that. Getting through London might be more tricky because of low bridges and so on.
Thanks , so it looks like I could go home then pick up m1 into London, drop is w21la ( txt says North wharf ( assume rd ), a5 , Harrow rd looks route in , but until I know actual height of thing you can’t really plan a set route .
Be nice to have permit / see thing then can get route in head , not worry about it
Thanks
I really don’t know if the OP is taking the P or not but…
10 feet wide takes you into abnormal load territory, with the notifications required to all police forces, councils and uncle tom cobley’s mate as well along the whole route.
see gov.uk/esdal-and-abnormal-l … rmal-loads
London lorry Control times are as follows - Monday-Friday: 21:00-07:00, Saturday: 13:00-07:00 Monday
you have to keep to approved roads in these times or apply for a permit (can take up to 2 weeks via post or instantly online for a £100+ fee)
Not being funny but, if a company is expecting the driver to “just” run to London with a over width load without proper route, permits etc - get a new job, its not the 70’s anymore
At 3 metre wide you will be under a movement order ( not a “permit” ) the movement order will detail the route to be taken, so “nipping home” is not an option unless your are luckily routed right past your front door. a movement order allows you to use a vehicle/move a load load that falls outside construction and use regulations on specified routes only - being caught off route means you will be prosecuted for using a vehicle/load that does not conform to construction and use.
Do mean by a permit a movement order ? as if it’s 10ft wide ? which is roughly just over 3 meters u will need a movement order as anything over 2.9 wide needs 1 and also should be marked up correctly ie warning triangles on each corner and lights if u have a movement order for it will have a set route on it and roads u have to use that u have to stick too as its agreed with authorities who issue these I’m sure where u are collecting from will put u right if it’s the depot I think it is possibly? As there good lads there .
I personally haven’t done any cabins recently but have in the past when I was on rigid hiab work a 10ft isn’t to much to worry about just give yourself plenty of room and clearance the only wide loads I’ve done recently is precast panels upto 4 meters with a ■■■■■■ there good fun 
I’m sure if I’ve said owt wrong someone will be along to put me right .
hardyd44:
I really don’t know if the OP is taking the P or not but…10 feet wide takes you into abnormal load territory, with the notifications required to all police forces, councils and uncle tom cobley’s mate as well along the whole route.
see gov.uk/esdal-and-abnormal-l … rmal-loads
London lorry Control times are as follows - Monday-Friday: 21:00-07:00, Saturday: 13:00-07:00 Monday
you have to keep to approved roads in these times or apply for a permit (can take up to 2 weeks via post or instantly online for a £100+ fee)
Not being funny but, if a company is expecting the driver to “just” run to London with a over width load without proper route, permits etc - get a new job, its not the 70’s anymore
I probably worded it wrong , there is meant to be a permit there when I get there , I’ve never used or seen one so instead of spending all night worry what it does or doesn’t say , I’m just trying to find out in advance what it does say , calms the nerves .
I’ve tried to take things in my stride , not worry , but the thought of a modular block thing , post code w2 has me thinking why me
It may be bread and butter to you , others , but it’s outside my comfort zone , I was just after a bit of help from those who’ve done this type of work ta
Rikki-UK:
At 3 metre wide you will be under a movement order ( not a “permit” ) the movement order will detail the route to be taken, so “nipping home” is not an option unless your are luckily routed right past your front door. a movement order allows you to use a vehicle/move a load load that falls outside construction and use regulations on specified routes only - being caught off route means you will be prosecuted for using a vehicle/load that does not conform to construction and use.
Thanks ricki , I’ve never done this type of work but had this set route in my head for some reason ta , the permit bit came from t. O , said if it wasn’t there I was to ring for one , guess there as green as me when it comes to this type of work , thanks again
dozy:
Rikki-UK:
At 3 metre wide you will be under a movement order ( not a “permit” ) the movement order will detail the route to be taken, so “nipping home” is not an option unless your are luckily routed right past your front door. a movement order allows you to use a vehicle/move a load load that falls outside construction and use regulations on specified routes only - being caught off route means you will be prosecuted for using a vehicle/load that does not conform to construction and use.Thanks ricki , I’ve never done this type of work but had this set route in my head for some reason ta , the permit bit came from t. O , said if it wasn’t there I was to ring for one , guess there as green as me when it comes to this type of work , thanks again
Unless they got the job for a good bit of coin then had a meeting to decide which idiot driver could they drop it on…no offence dozy buy your clearly out of you depth with this due to insufficient training/experience,protect you own livelihood (licence) and tell them to get someone else to do it,you could end up in more trouble than you thought possible if it goes breasts up!
You need to complete ESDAL, (Electronic Service Delivery for Abnormal Loads), this will detail your route, date & time, vehicle details & load details.
This needs submitting in plenty of time, (2 clear days)
I dare say this has been done, and you will pick up your copy when you collect the cabin (that’s what I have done in the past) and carry it with you on the journey.
Is this not the kind of detail that your Traffic Office monkeys should be telling you prior to you doing it.
Not exactly very professional sounding outfit !!! 
Although your movement order will detail your route, your drop would be most easily accessed from M25 M40 all the way in. The only bridge less than 5m is the Hanger Lane underpass which you can go over the top of needs be.
As far as collecting the tower crane after, it’s just welded metal the same as any other load. Just make sure it’s safely secured.
Movement order will have been done by your traffic planner. You have to stick with that route. The route gets checked out by the abnormal loads department at the Met police. I know this because I deal with 32x10 cabins into london and I have to prepare movement orders to the Met police. In fact I often get Mark from Ab loads dept ring me up and often tells me a better route to use than the one I have chose. They know their stuff so dont think you can deviate from the route or else you will be in ■■■■ creek without a paddle if you cause damage offroute!
What could possibly go wrong?
oh dear dozy. oh dear.
sorry its not a more helpful post but other have covered this, I really do think you are becoming a troll more and more mind. it is impossible to have driven as long as you have but have so little idea about so little.