The favoured truck of a Spanish driver,smoking a foot long cigar was the law,along with 20 coffee and cognac stops on the way to the pack house which was 50 kms away.
GBE had a fleet of them.
Widely known as “Pigs’ Arse Holes”
Break down a lot too.
The Seddon Atkinson Strato was just a badge-engineered Pegaso Troner but both were essentially just unreliable DAFs.
toby1234abc:
…smoking a foot long cigar was the law…
Some places gave you a couple of those cigars free when you filled up with diesel. I tried one once, big mistake.
used to see them by the dozen, when the m40 was the main ring road around madrid.
said driver, munching on his cigar, normally wearing an unbuttoned checked shirt, with a chunky gold chain on, maybe even a medallion. truck would be chugging up the hills, billowing black smoke, pulling any old trailer, normally double stacked with tiles, bricks or the like 
Yes I had one for 2 years in GBE colours , good truck but ate head gaskets
Harry Monk:
The Seddon Atkinson Strato was just a badge-engineered Pegaso Troner but both were essentially just unreliable DAFs.
Sorry Harry, we used to load the cabs from Coslada to Seddon , the only common bit was the cab ,the chassis engine were different, in actual fact I wouldn’t mind betting the SA engine and gearbox were better than the Troner
Yes, we had several like that Gazzer, Gerrard Lissenburg using the trailer in front for extra breaking coming down Miguel,s And a Merc van cutting up another one in France causing the driver to swerve and killing 2 people in a car coming the other way
i drove a SA strato space cab with a 14 ltr 465 ■■■■■■■ lump fitted with a 3 stage jake brake (great for the mountains) doing work to italy and spain for 3 years,
it was a good truck never missed a beat . 
This was our pegaso
Mind over matter. Controle totale.
I wonder where he is now.
Jeff Duval is now at Bournemouth Airport I/E trading as Efret.
kerbut:
Jeff Duval is now at Bournemouth Airport I/E trading as Efret.
I’ve flown his plane a few times when his regular pilot (David DeSuza) wasn’t available. That’s going back a bit now though!
“We don’t mind, because you don’t matter!”
ah,the Troner,ill just go through the main things about it,i remember the saturday evening it arrived in 1993,J4 BRT,sounding like it had an oil spinner,but no,anyway first thing as it was second hand was to give it service and inspection,after a check over,nothing drastic,i started to drop the oil out,filled the usual 2 buckets and its still coming,i was used to the 6 cylinder turbostars we had and their 28 litres,no this thing had 38 litres and 3 great big spin on filters,anyway my boss decides to get GBE’s number and get some pointers on em,‘watch the rear brakes,they eat linings’,brakes had loads of meat on em tho when i checked n adjusted,about 2 weeks later,brakes locked on,yes,jumped the cam,got in n stripped it down,gone past the rivets,so now drums are u/s really,but at £350 each,it was decided to just reshoe it for now,anyway,keep an eye on em i did,5 weeks later,they look low,so that was that,i kept a mental note and every 5 to 6 weeks,new set of linings on the back,then another day,driver reported vibration,nipped out to check prop,sure enough,knackerd,the yokes had worn eachother down,how it stayed in one piece i dont know,luckily my boss had took out mechanical insurance on it,2 grand later a new prop fitted,next thing,no clutch,took g/box out,(all the valves n pipes were put on top of the gearbox for some reason and g/box could only be removed from underneath,you had to spend hours labeling and removing all of these before you could touch the box)so,it was wind all 4 chambers off and support g/box from an flt,then as the splines disengage push the lorry forward and drop box on the floor,this time pressure plate snapped in half,big single plate job,(190.38 iveco plate)new one fitted and away,few months later something else happened and a new clutch was needed again,then the clutch fork snapped,i got the time down to 4 hours to remove the box on my own.
Another time,get a call,lorry is makin a right racket from the back and clonking when cornering,boss goes out,come back and says diff sounds shagged,we got that out and indeed it was smashed to bits,rockwell axle unique to troner,so got diff repaired,what a top hat to refit that was.
on the next service i was waiting for someone to come and shake steering and check all the warnin lights n controls,after waiting ages i got washed up and did the lights n controls my self,you had 2 switches for rear fogs,lorry and trailer were separate,i pressed lorry fogs button to check for warning light and heard an air sound from the back,did this a couple of times to make sure i wernt imagining things,sure enough,somewhere for some reason,lorry fogs come on and put diff lock in aswell as diff lock switch,it had an external lever for the diff lock and sure enough it was engagin it,so pipe off n kink it over n tie it up.
Cab mountings gave up,gear linkage was just a hash to convert from left to right hand drive,you would lose first gear or reverse,constantly wearing bronze bushes out,we made our own,throttle pedal siezed,fitted grease ■■■■■■■ to that,headlight adjusters u/s,water powered,dashboard out job,they never got done,drill up through headlight back and screwed in a self tapper,job done,throttle cable snapped one sunday evenin in charlton,joined it togather with some pipe clamps and it ran for weeks like that,just couldnt get the parts for em,in the end i made a ■■■■■■■ sed ak cable fit,then it started breakin injector pipe 6,just above the union on the pump,then it became every week,then everyday,then 2 pipes a day,had injector checked,made extra support brackets but never found out why,driver changed em himself,would take 4 weeks for new one from spain so was using made up ones.
another time,a palm coupling cam off down jubilee way full freighted with a Laros fridge on,driver stuffed it into barrier to stop it,fair enough,used sed ak parts to repair it,tubular bar behind bumper is also an air tank,bonkers.
The drivers loved it,big cab and it bloody flew,4 valves per cylinder,360 brake,it was a fine lookin lorry.,i last see it when i was 21 up near Selby after starting driving,painted blue with no air kit,according to the dvla check its long gone.good memories but was grim at the time.
Here’s one I drove, two trips, one to Devon and one to Almeria.
Regards,
Nick
Nick
Is that Troner LHD or RHD ? if its RHD ,I only know of 1 and TD Williams had it on a years demo from Pegaso
Hi Propa Lorry, it sounds like it was a nightmare. I wondered if the problems were mainly due to the importer, or was it just a badly-developed vehicle? I found this:
camionesclasicos.com/FORO/vi … 22&t=19738
Needless to say, the Spanish did not have problems getting parts, and were possibly more familiar with its quirks, so the more common problems could be worked around as a matter of course. Your patience and perseverance was admirable- the vehicle might have been more successful in GB if you had worked for the importer!