I don’t know how you expect me to know Pete with me being so young.As far as I can remember all Tilcons 4whs were Bedford,s which they sold off to the drivers plus a couple of 6whs. Just kept the 8whs.When Grimshaws from Hartington retired They had 6, 4whs Tilcon panicked a bit and bought some of them.Little Tilli was born! The Dodge in the picture is Staffordshire registered so I presume its fairly local
windrush:
Found on the tinternet, credit to the original photographer and apologies if it has been posted before. The driver appears to be the Late ■■■■ Bunting who latterly lived at Hulland Ward. ■■■■ was driving a M registered Foden S80 when I started at Ballidon, after that he had a V reg Haulmaster and the Gardner engine knocked a piston out on Ipswich Docks while blowing the load off. I went down later in the day in another Foden to tow him back, it was a night of dense freezing fog and poor ■■■■ was frozen solid as the engine could only be run at tickover so never got warm. My mirrors kept freezing up as well! Feeling sorry for the old lad we swapped over after a couple of hours so I froze instead! We landed back around midnight, dropped his tank outside his house and collected it next morning.
This poor scan by me is from a book on Parwich which was the nearest village of any size to Ballidon Quarry, approximately a mile away as the crow flies!
Pete.
John can certainly find some good old pic’s.Thats a good shot you found off the Marshall Pete in good workaday condition also the Dodge tank earlier on in the thread that John posted. Yes if only we had taken more pic’s.,all those early days in Ballidon when I started for Gerry Appleby and WHP had what seemed like droves of TS3s.,and Dodges hurling about. But it was quite an expensive hobby back in the dark days 50s-60s-70s.or was I just mean. 
Owning the camera was’nt the problem just the developing,and if some did’nt come out
you realised you were no David Bailey. But now as you know it’s easy point, shoot and if no good delete. 
Hi Pete (windrush) Got the photo out of vintage roadscene mag and it states has Michael(malmic) says it was reg in Stafford and at the time was delivering to an housing estate at Hemsworth in 1977.
It might have been based at the Ackworth plant then John, Hemsworth would be more on their patch. I was there when Grimshaws finished Mick, we ‘inherited’ two Mastiff’s and a Boxer which were all in rough order really. I guess that maintenance was neglected a little with Geoff Grimshaw shutting up shop. John Mellor had the Boxer with the Perkins 6.354 (I rebuilt the engine on that with Darrel Mansfield who had just left school (later Lamb and Mansfield and later still just Mansfield Recovery!) and George Robinson and his lad Dave (Pup) had the two V8 engined Mastiffs. Georges ended up internally as we couldn’t get it through the test on smoke emissions, apparently Grimshaws used to dilute the diesel with petrol to get a test on it but Mick Gregory and Stuart Burgin were not keen on that idea! Anyway they were replaced with those Sed Ak 200’s and Mellor had the 300 six wheeler, when Loxleys finished trading then Tilcon bought another 200 for Geoff Land (Tilly) to drive. Then Mick Shaw retired early because his Foden had chucked a con rod through the block and, being deaf, he just thought it had a missfire. 
I rebuilt it with a new block but Mick failed his medical anyway so never came back, Geoff then had to take his class 2 test and had Micks Foden and that was when I went on the road full time as they were a driver short! Long winded post I know, just reminising while awaiting a phone call. 
Pete.
thelongdrag:
John can certainly find some good old pic’s.Thats a good shot you found off the Marshall Pete in good workaday condition also the Dodge tank earlier on in the thread that John posted. Yes if only we had taken more pic’s.,all those early days in Ballidon when I started for Gerry Appleby and WHP had what seemed like droves of TS3s.,and Dodges hurling about. But it was quite an expensive hobby back in the dark days 50s-60s-70s.or was I just mean.
you realised you were no David Bailey. But now as you know it’s easy point, shoot and if no good delete.
Yes Mike, John does the business OK! One day I might just get to meet you, Gilly says that you call sometimes and Foxy told me that he had been talking to you and assumed that we had met in person. I used to carry a camera but rarely used it because, as you say, it was expensive getting film developed. Simple now isn’t it, a good job that folk in the past made the effort though otherwise these forums would be dull! 
Pete.
I had forgotten that Geoff came from Loxleys .Wasn’t he related to them in some way? A drop of petrol in the diesel was I believe quite a common way of improving emissoions in the aging 354’s!
Stanfield:
Photos belong to Leo Pratt
John Biesty Foden S39 (Peakstone) tipping tarmac sometime in the 70s1
Tilcon Dodge tipping tarmac0
Fantastic pics Stanny mate. I can’t recall that S39 whatsoever! Must have been on the fleet at the same time as the first batch of S80s that Biesty had. The reg plate seems familiar, wonder who had it after Peakstone moved it on?
malmic:
I had forgotten that Geoff came from Loxleys .Wasn’t he related to them in some way? A drop of petrol in the diesel was I believe quite a common way of improving emissoions in the aging 354’s!
Yes he was a relative Mick, his Aunt, Mary Loxley, used to drink in the Midland Hotel in Matlock Bath when I used to frequent the place. Do you remember Ray Land who was in Ballidon driving a KM for Loxleys, he was another of Geoff’s family member’s though not a brother. Loxleys old premises has houses on the land nowadays. I went to visit Geoff when he was very ill with cancer and he was such a poor sight, I was at his funeral just a couple of weeks later. 
Pete.
windrush:
malmic:
I had forgotten that Geoff came from Loxleys .Wasn’t he related to them in some way? A drop of petrol in the diesel was I believe quite a common way of improving emissoions in the aging 354’s!Yes he was a relative Mick, his Aunt, Mary Loxley, used to drink in the Midland Hotel in Matlock Bath when I used to frequent the place. Do you remember Ray Land who was in Ballidon driving a KM for Loxleys, he was another of Geoff’s family member’s though not a brother. Loxleys old premises has houses on the land nowadays. I went to visit Geoff when he was very ill with cancer and he was such a poor sight, I was at his funeral just a couple of weeks later.
Pete.
I missed the funeral Pete always regretted it.Geoff was one of the best.
malmic:
I missed the funeral Pete always regretted it.Geoff was one of the best.
It was a ‘full house’ at Bonsall church Mick. From memory, regarding Ballidon drivers, Ron Dykes, Malcolm Gallimore, Nigel Mace, Jack Clarke, Jim Banks and John Mellor were there. Eric Gough and Stuart Burgin went as well. Probably others who I can’t remember. His Grandson/s had a wreath done of a Tilcon eight wheeler which they placed on his grave so he could drive in heaven, very moving. As you say he was a good lad, a decent footballer apparently who had trials with Blackburn Rovers in his youth. Jim Banks (another good driver, now also passed on of course) used to visit him regularly when he was ill, if you had ‘Jimbo’ as a friend you couldn’t go far wrong, and he was very good to me and my missus, but you didn’t want him as an enemy! 
Pete.
bit of a puzzle there bonkey , i had 272L at hazelcroft but that arrived in arc colours and the peakstone s39 was 273L . i don’t recall 273 , but i suspect it was sold locally . cheers , dave
rigsby:
bit of a puzzle there bonkey , i had 272L at hazelcroft but that arrived in arc colours and the peakstone s39 was 273L . i don’t recall 273 , but i suspect it was sold locally . cheers , dave
Thanks mate. Are you sure about 272L at Hazelcroft? Dave Keyworth told me it was ex Staveley/Peakstone so could have been a sister wagon to the one that Stanny posted.
Stanfield:
Parked at Tunstead Milton nr Chapel 0
Thats a ex wainwrights transports erf from ashby de la zouch,they used to be a big erf user at one time,they do a lot of work out of Breedon quarry.
Found on the net, Looks like it was taken at Cemex Doves Holes to me maybe one of you Buxton lads will know.
BonkeyDollocks:
rigsby:
bit of a puzzle there bonkey , i had 272L at hazelcroft but that arrived in arc colours and the peakstone s39 was 273L . i don’t recall 273 , but i suspect it was sold locally . cheers , daveThanks mate. Are you sure about 272L at Hazelcroft? Dave Keyworth told me it was ex Staveley/Peakstone so could have been a sister wagon to the one that Stanny posted.
,i’m sure bonkey i was there the day it arrived , it was the pale sandy colour of arc , and i did a few loads with it before it was sprayed . i don’t think it was resprayed until the new arctic went on the road in the august . stuart ? had it then , there is a photo (probably one of yours ) of stuart driving it on one of the threads . regards , dave
rigsby:
BonkeyDollocks:
rigsby:
bit of a puzzle there bonkey , i had 272L at hazelcroft but that arrived in arc colours and the peakstone s39 was 273L . i don’t recall 273 , but i suspect it was sold locally . cheers , daveThanks mate. Are you sure about 272L at Hazelcroft? Dave Keyworth told me it was ex Staveley/Peakstone so could have been a sister wagon to the one that Stanny posted.
,i’m sure bonkey i was there the day it arrived , it was the pale sandy colour of arc , and i did a few loads with it before it was sprayed . i don’t think it was resprayed until the new arctic went on the road in the august . stuart ? had it then , there is a photo (probably one of yours ) of stuart driving it on one of the threads . regards , dave
There were two of them new to Staveley Lime at Hindlow, 272 and 273L in white with steel ribbed bodies with S T A V E L E Y in bold letters down the side. I remember going to Hindlow to see them when they first arrived. I thought they both went into Biesty colours although I’m not certain and it is certainly possible that the Hazelcroft one never saw Biesty blue. They were known as “The Flying Pig” and “The Plastic Pig” One of those names can just about be made out on the front of the photo.
Thanks for clearing that up Limey. I did hear that Staveley had at least one of these but always thought it remained at Hindlow painted white and worked on the lime job. To see one painted in Biesty colours was quite the joy! Easily pleased in my dotage.
The next question is; seeing the lorry is carrying the Peakstone name, did the quarry at Dove work under that name in the 70s? I always assumed the name came later. I’ve seen the S83s with the later livery after Biesty and the Staveley logo had been dropped.
BonkeyDollocks:
Thanks for clearing that up Limey. I did hear that Staveley had at least one of these but always thought it remained at Hindlow painted white and worked on the lime job. To see one painted in Biesty colours was quite the joy! Easily pleased in my dotage.The next question is; seeing the lorry is carrying the Peakstone name, did the quarry at Dove work under that name in the 70s? I always assumed the name came later. I’ve seen the S83s with the later livery after Biesty and the Staveley logo had been dropped.
The name Peakstone was adopted when RMC purchased both sites from Staveley Industries and from memory this was right at the end of the 70s. I think a S83 tanker was the first vehicle to carry the livery and was entered in Buxton Carnival very soon after the takeover. Dave Blood had a new B Series tractor on a W plate that was in Peakstone livery from new complete with two daft P logos on the grille
That would mean the S39 operating under the RMC ownership. Can’t recall seeing it round here so possibly based at Hope Street? The S80s and S83s are firmly in the memory though. 
Do any of you lads know what happened to Tom Stephens who was the owner of John Biesty Ltd when Staveley Ind took them over,I do know he went over to Buxton working for them in some capacity.