Hi Dean,
Outstanding input again,thanks.I think the 290 F88 is from the Glyn S.John hire fleet?
Regards andrew.
pete 359:
Hi Dean,
Outstanding input again,thanks.I think the 290 F88 is from the Glyn S.John hire fleet?
Regards andrew.
Thanks Andrew ! 
The Faye’s of Manchester with Transcon pulling it was really xhb 461t with my brother driving it owned by r@b Bedwas road Caerphilly which my brother later bought of r@b wat a machine as an owner driver around Europe .
The glyn John 88 was under p liners coulers I think long time ago regards rowly
These two Atkinson Borderer’s were coming to the end of their working lives at W & J Riding when this picture was taken, probably in the late seventies - early eighties.
Reg No OTF 550M Fleet No 51 ‘Robust’ was new to Riding’s and STF 853M Fleet No 68 ‘Britannia’ was a second-hand, purchase from Pandoro.
Both had received in-house sleeper conversions and being ■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■ would have been high on the disposals list at that time.
OTF 550M was sold on to Cannings of Leyland and then survived into the ownership of well-known preservationist Kevin Dennis.
STF 853M was sold on to Norman Billington’s of Heysham who ceased trading shortly before it was set to work.
Dean,
The Guy big J may have been owned by a company Woodhall Freight Coleshill bought out,it looks like it has just been resprayed red and sleeper cab, but for the life of me I cannot remember the name of the company, Diesel Dog may know?
rward:
The Faye’s of Manchester with Transcon pulling it was really xhb 461t with my brother driving it owned by r@b Bedwas road Caerphilly which my brother later bought of r@b wat a machine as an owner driver around Europe .
The glyn John 88 was under p liners coulers I think long time ago regards rowly
Unbelievable Rowly,fancy seeing your brother on here ! 
When i first looked at that pic
i wondered if it was a demonstrator as i have seen ranscon demo units that colour !
moomooland:
2These two Atkinson Borderer’s were coming to the end of their working lives at W & J Riding when this picture was taken, probably in the late seventies - early eighties.Reg No OTF 550M Fleet No 51 ‘Robust’ was new to Riding’s and STF 853M Fleet No 68 ‘Britannia’ was a second-hand, purchase from Pandoro.
Both had received in-house sleeper conversions and being ■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■ would have been high on the disposals list at that time.
OTF 550M was sold on to Cannings of Leyland and then survived into the ownership of well-known preservationist Kevin Dennis.
STF 853M was sold on to Norman Billington’s of Heysham who ceased trading shortly before it was set to work.1After being in service for a number of years with Riding’s OTF 550M was sold on to another local operator by the name of J. Canning of Leyland who used it for hauling a tandem axle powder tanker.
0Today, 44 years old and fully restored, OTF 550M can be seen at various rallies across the country in the livery of Morgan Transport.
Excellent stuff Paul,nice to see one as ben saved and it looks like new ! 
pete smith:
Dean,
The Guy big J may have been owned by a company Woodhall Freight Coleshill bought out,it looks like it has just been resprayed red and sleeper cab, but for the life of me I cannot remember the name of the company, Diesel Dog may know?
Thanks for your comments Pete !
Whilst going through some old magazines i happened to come across this article ! What caught my eye
was some of the dodgy characters interviewed,that are also on this thread ! 
Click on pages twice to read.
Like the Scammell Handyman and the Trunker the Routeman suffered badly when the Michellotti-designed “cheesegrater” fiberglass cab started to fracture and crack after being in service for a while…
Here’s some shots of the cab production line…
It’s A Deal… great read, thank you Dean for the insight to a chapter in the life and character of our dear departed Saviem R I P.
Oily
moomooland:
3Like the Scammell Handyman and the Trunker the Routeman suffered badly when the Michellotti-designed “cheesegrater” fiberglass cab started to fracture and crack after being in service fro a while…Here’s some shots of the cab production line…
210
Am I right in thinking that Michellotti also design the cab for the Guy Warrior/Invincible? robert
Baldwins Heavy Haulage were from Stockton on Tees Cleveland.
Hers’s a close up shot of Baldwins 6x4 Mack tractor unit Reg No REN 193S.
Found these in April in g d harries yard in Milford haven the guy shunting in the abbey with joints was a road unit before ending in the abbey cheers John
moomooland:
3Like the Scammell Handyman and the Trunker the Routeman suffered badly when the Michellotti-designed “cheesegrater” fiberglass cab started to fracture and crack after being in service for a while…Here’s some shots of the cab production line…
210
Nice pics Paul, never realised they were fiberglass cabs !
oiltreader:
It’s A Deal… great read, thank you Dean for the insight to a chapter in the life and character of our dear departed Saviem R I P.
Oily
Agree Oily, it is a good read !
ERF-NGC-European:
moomooland:
3Like the Scammell Handyman and the Trunker the Routeman suffered badly when the Michellotti-designed “cheesegrater” fiberglass cab started to fracture and crack after being in service fro a while…Here’s some shots of the cab production line…
210Am I right in thinking that Michellotti also design the cab for the Guy Warrior/Invincible? robert
Hopefully someone will know Robert !
moomooland:
1Baldwins Heavy Haulage were from Stockton on Tees Cleveland.
0Hers’s a close up shot of Baldwins 6x4 Mack tractor unit Reg No REN 193S.
Nice pic Paul.
smallcoal:
Found these in April in g d harries yard in Milford haven the guy shunting in the abbey with joints was a road unit before ending in the abbey cheers John
I suppose they were kept as spares originally John ■■
Hi Dean , Great stuff again , Glyn John F88 ,reminds me they had Ford D series on the Leiner contract ,i think with Leiner signwriting ,and mention of bones ,Joint Motorways hauled them in from the continent ,regards Keith .
Volvo F86 of Pennine Haulage
Anyone recognise the DAF
A E Evans Marathon tanker.
Mortons BRS Dodge
Thos W Ward Dodge.
Anyone recognise the Seddon Atkinson.
John Bevan DAF
T E Masters Roman.
Murray’s Marathon.
Glyn Rowell DAF loaded with 2 steel coils,trailer has a nice bend in it !
This is a brand new Seddon Atkinson 400 Series tractor unit in factory primer probably being delivered to a customer in South Wales on trade plates.
rward:
The Faye’s of Manchester with Transcon pulling it was really xhb 461t with my brother driving it owned by r@b Bedwas road Caerphilly which my brother later bought of r@b wat a machine as an owner driver around Europe .
The glyn John 88 was under p liners coulers I think long time ago regards rowly
Evening Rowland, just having a look for the first time in a while and what a surprise! A picture of what i believe is dad’s first transcon pwo140r don’t look like xhb to me or your brother for one the curtains are drawn 2 the near side mirror in the wrong position 3 condition of the drive axle mud guards and last but not least dose not seem to be travelling fast enough for your brother.
Be nice to know who was the driver can’t quite make him out hope your well
I’ve noticed that quite a number of those Coilers have their tandem bogies well back on the chassis so surely this must have given rise to overloading problems on the unit drive axle ? just an observation from a long retired haulier ! Cheers Bewick.
