PAUL GEE's PHOTO COLLECTION (Part 1)

[deanb]

pete smith:
Alf Parry from Connah’s Quay, them boys could get a shift on along the A41 between Wolverhampton and Whitchurch!
Last motor’s they ran we’re Sed Atki’s, Steelboy F10 will remember them,

Thanks for the comment Pete !

moomooland:
Walkersteel from Blackburn.
1Jack Walker was a British industrialist and businessman from Blackburn Lancashire.
Walker built his fortune in the steel industry, amassing a personal fortune of £600 million.
He then went on to become the owner and benefactor of Blackburn Rovers Football Club, winning a Premiership title under his guidance.

0Following the death of his father Charles Jack Walker took over the family sheet metal business.
In 1988 the business was making an annual profit of £48m.
By 1990 Walker had built up the business so successfully that it had become the largest steel stockholder in Britain, employing 3,400 people at 50 sites.
Walkersteel completed a major deal with GKN, purchasing subsidiary GKN Steel-stock.
Following this Walker decided it was the right time to sell and opened negotiations with British Steel Corporation.
Walkersteel was sold for a reported £360m, the highest price ever paid for a private company at the time.
On the 17th of August 2000 Jack Walker died aged 71 from cancer.

Excellent pic that Paul, i find that intresting having never loaded steel ! That was a hell of a profit if you
take the 2 weeks out at Xmas/Newyear thats nearly a million a week profit !! What a great
company that was if you owned it !!!

[deanb]

“Spud1960” This Scammell i assume is the same Edwards of Hull as the brown ones ■■?

Also looks a bit of a unusual trailer ,like a home built one ■■?

[moomooland]

As well as running a large fleet of ERF tractor units Walkersteel also ran numerous Atkinsons.

Blackburn based Walkersteel Atkinson Borderer 4x2 tractor unit Reg No GCK 231N is pictured here in Luton in July 1986.
The driver, Mike Lamb, had just made a delivery to RG Brown in the Cosgrove Road Industrial area.
Photograph courtesy of Kevin Lane on Flickr

Mike Lamb is pictured here on the M62 Hartshead Moor Service area in West Yorkshire in front of his ‘A’ Series ERF.
Both vehicles were on the way back to Blackburn in 1981 after delivering full loads of steel plate to International Harvester at Carr Hill, Doncaster.
Frank Battersby who drove the ‘B’ Series ERF AFV 86V parked along side took the photograph.

[badger]

Stanfield:
LPG Batley also had one of the best Driver Trainers (Tankers) you could wish to meet Mr Alan Walker any of you Tanker lads remember him ? I have a feeling he was a member on here at one time.

He took my 1st ADR course in Avonmouth too mant years ago, A really interesting bloke & a really good teacher,
The 5 days just flew by
Jeremy

[deanb]

moomooland:

HRS:
The time has come, !! could you educate me on the models please, ie Borderer, black knight, Silver whatever as although I remember the trucks I never knew the model line up.
Thanks in advance… Harvey

The best i can do is this…
The name ‘Borderer’ was dreamed up in May 1970 by the late Frank Whalley who was the publicity manager for Atkinson Vehicles.
It was one of six names used by the company to identify the different models being built at the time.
The range consisted of tractor units ‘Borderer’ (4x2) and ‘Venturer’ (6x4),
Two-axle chassis ‘Raider’.
Three-axle chassis ‘Searcher’
Four-axle chassis ‘Defender’.
The new model for this generation at the time being the twin steer tractor unit ‘Leader’ (6x2).

Anything earlier and Chris Gardner is the man to put you right.

Mine field !!!

moomooland:
2As well as running a large fleet of ERF tractor units Walkersteel also ran numerous Atkinsons.

1Blackburn based Walkersteel Atkinson Borderer 4x2 tractor unit Reg No GCK 231N is pictured here in Luton in July 1986.
The driver, Mike Lamb, had just made a delivery to RG Brown in the Cosgrove Road Industrial area.
Photograph courtesy of Kevin Lane on Flickr

0Mike Lamb is pictured here on the M62 Hartshead Moor Service area in West Yorkshire in front of his ‘A’ Series ERF.
Both vehicles were on the way back to Blackburn in 1981 after delivering full loads of steel plate to International Harvester at Carr Hill, Doncaster.
Frank Battersby who drove the ‘B’ Series ERF AFV 86V parked along side took the photograph.

Good stuff Paul,and excellent pics again mate !

Badger:

Stanfield:
LPG Batley also had one of the best Driver Trainers (Tankers) you could wish to meet Mr Alan Walker any of you Tanker lads remember him ? I have a feeling he was a member on here at one time.

He took my 1st ADR course in Avonmouth too mant years ago, A really interesting bloke & a really good teacher,
The 5 days just flew by
Jeremy

Thanks for your comments Jeremy !

[deanb]

S.Harrison & Sons Scammells.

Click on pages twice to magnify to read.

[240_gardner]

moomooland:
Mike Lamb is pictured here on the M62 Hartshead Moor Service area in West Yorkshire in front of his ‘A’ Series ERF.
Both vehicles were on the way back to Blackburn in 1981 after delivering full loads of steel plate to International Harvester at Carr Hill, Doncaster.
Frank Battersby who drove the ‘B’ Series ERF AFV 86V parked along side took the photograph.

And Frank is, of course, the elder brother of ace Atkinson (and Albion) restorer, Kevin

I think it was 1989 that Jack and Fred Walker sold out? GKN were already in residence, and a part of the Guide warehouse leased out, when Chapman Envelopes moved into it in 1992.

[deanb]

Beresford ERF

Storey Bros haulage ERF

Albion tipper of Moreton C Cullimore & Son.

Vicks DAF 2800

S & R Guy

[240_gardner]

moomooland:

HRS:
The time has come, !! could you educate me on the models please, ie Borderer, black knight, Silver whatever as although I remember the trucks I never knew the model line up.
Thanks in advance… Harvey

The best i can do is this…
The name ‘Borderer’ was dreamed up in May 1970 by the late Frank Whalley who was the publicity manager for Atkinson Vehicles.
It was one of six names used by the company to identify the different models being built at the time.
The range consisted of tractor units ‘Borderer’ (4x2) and ‘Venturer’ (6x4),
Two-axle chassis ‘Raider’.
Three-axle chassis ‘Searcher’
Four-axle chassis ‘Defender’.
The new model for this generation at the time being the twin steer tractor unit ‘Leader’ (6x2).

Anything earlier and Chris Gardner is the man to put you right.

Almost… I’ve written it somewhere else, so I will try to find it and then paste it in, because I’m lazy. No, actually, busy!

Leader wasn’t wholly new, though, as it was a full re-work of the earlier ‘Rear Steer’ tractors, designed for 38 tons rather than the 32 of the earlier version

The ‘Raider’ name was never actually used in period, as far as I can ascertain, although it was certainly the intended name for the 2-axle rigid. The new range was unveiled at the Earls Court Commercial Motor Show in October 1970

[windrush]

Very interesting that Harrisons article, it echos what my last gaffer used to say to me (regarding running older trucks) “It isn’t the amount of work you do that’s important, but what it costs me for you to do it is” and I can understand his reasoning behind that. New tackle needs more work to pay for it all! His other saying was “I don’t need an accountant to tell me what I’m making, a tank on the chassis already tells me that!”

Pete.

[240_gardner]

windrush:
Very interesting that Harrisons article, it echos what my last gaffer used to say to me (regarding running older trucks) “It isn’t the amount of work you do that’s important, but what it costs me for you to do it is” and I can understand his reasoning behind that. New tackle needs more work to pay for it all! His other saying was “I don’t need an accountant to tell me what I’m making, a tank on the chassis already tells me that!”

Pete.

Good gaffers have a knack of expressing these things in simple terms… just a couple of my favourites from Bill Bowker, for whom it was a privilege to work:

1. Gazing out of a yard full of motors on Christmas Eve, “He could have had the decency to have been born during Blackburn holiday fortnight, so we’d only have to park 'em up once a year”

2. Looking over my shoulder at a weekly profit & loss report I was preparing, “This is coming out of my back pocket, you know”

[ossied]

moomooland:
A couple more Leggett pictures…

July 1983.

Heading out of Dover.
Photograph courtesy of Adrian Cypher.

Nice pictures, the one of the Volvo leaving Dover is me in my motor, nice motor but the traction was not good in snow or ice, here are a few more of the motors I had on Leggetts, still have a soft spot for the F89.
Waking up on a cold morning in Calais. F89

Tipping in Geneva.

The F12 again somewhere in France.

Ossie

[spud1960]

DEANB:
“Spud1960” This Scammell i assume is the same Edwards of Hull as the brown ones ■■?

Also looks a bit of a unusual trailer ,like a home built one ■■?

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Hi Dean,

Yes same company the blue motors were the Ideal Standard contract fleet and yes certainly looks like a home brewed trailer possibly used for moving liquid clay slurry
Regards

John

[deanb]

240 Gardner:

moomooland:
Mike Lamb is pictured here on the M62 Hartshead Moor Service area in West Yorkshire in front of his ‘A’ Series ERF.
Both vehicles were on the way back to Blackburn in 1981 after delivering full loads of steel plate to International Harvester at Carr Hill, Doncaster.
Frank Battersby who drove the ‘B’ Series ERF AFV 86V parked along side took the photograph.

And Frank is, of course, the elder brother of ace Atkinson (and Albion) restorer, Kevin

I think it was 1989 that Jack and Fred Walker sold out? GKN were already in residence, and a part of the Guide warehouse leased out, when Chapman Envelopes moved into it in 1992.

Thanks for the input “240Gardner”

240 Gardner:

moomooland:

HRS:
The time has come, !! could you educate me on the models please, ie Borderer, black knight, Silver whatever as although I remember the trucks I never knew the model line up.
Thanks in advance… Harvey

The best i can do is this…
The name ‘Borderer’ was dreamed up in May 1970 by the late Frank Whalley who was the publicity manager for Atkinson Vehicles.
It was one of six names used by the company to identify the different models being built at the time.
The range consisted of tractor units ‘Borderer’ (4x2) and ‘Venturer’ (6x4),
Two-axle chassis ‘Raider’.
Three-axle chassis ‘Searcher’
Four-axle chassis ‘Defender’.
The new model for this generation at the time being the twin steer tractor unit ‘Leader’ (6x2).

Anything earlier and Chris Gardner is the man to put you right.

Almost… I’ve written it somewhere else, so I will try to find it and then paste it in, because I’m lazy. No, actually, busy!

Leader wasn’t wholly new, though, as it was a full re-work of the earlier ‘Rear Steer’ tractors, designed for 38 tons rather than the 32 of the earlier version

The ‘Raider’ name was never actually used in period, as far as I can ascertain, although it was certainly the intended name for the 2-axle rigid. The new range was unveiled at the Earls Court Commercial Motor Show in October 1970

windrush:
Very interesting that Harrisons article, it echos what my last gaffer used to say to me (regarding running older trucks) “It isn’t the amount of work you do that’s important, but what it costs me for you to do it is” and I can understand his reasoning behind that. New tackle needs more work to pay for it all! His other saying was “I don’t need an accountant to tell me what I’m making, a tank on the chassis already tells me that!”

Pete.

I can even remember them still running about on the M1,they were slow !!!

240 Gardner:

windrush:
Very interesting that Harrisons article, it echos what my last gaffer used to say to me (regarding running older trucks) “It isn’t the amount of work you do that’s important, but what it costs me for you to do it is” and I can understand his reasoning behind that. New tackle needs more work to pay for it all! His other saying was “I don’t need an accountant to tell me what I’m making, a tank on the chassis already tells me that!”

Pete.

Good gaffers have a knack of expressing these things in simple terms… just a couple of my favourites from Bill Bowker, for whom it was a privilege to work:

1. Gazing out of a yard full of motors on Christmas Eve, “He could have had the decency to have been born during Blackburn holiday fortnight, so we’d only have to park 'em up once a year”

2. Looking over my shoulder at a weekly profit & loss report I was preparing, “This is coming out of my back pocket, you know”

“This is coming out of my back pocket,you know” Classic line !

OssieD:

moomooland:
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A couple more Leggett pictures…

4July 1983.

3Heading out of Dover.
Photograph courtesy of Adrian Cypher.

Nice pictures, the one of the Volvo leaving Dover is me in my motor, nice motor but the traction was not good in snow or ice, here are a few more of the motors I had on Leggetts, still have a soft spot for the F89.
Waking up on a cold morning in Calais. F89
2

Tipping in Geneva.
1

The F12 again somewhere in France.
0

Ossie

Nice pics Ossie !

Spud1960:

DEANB:
“Spud1960” This Scammell i assume is the same Edwards of Hull as the brown ones ■■?

Also looks a bit of a unusual trailer ,like a home built one ■■?

1

0

Hi Dean,

Yes same company the blue motors were the Ideal Standard contract fleet and yes certainly looks like a home brewed trailer possibly used for moving liquid clay slurry
Regards

John

Cheers for confirming John !

[deanb]

You may find this of intrest Rowly.

Click on page twice to magnify to read.

[hrs]

240 Gardner:

moomooland:

HRS:
The time has come, !! could you educate me on the models please, ie Borderer, black knight, Silver whatever as although I remember the trucks I never knew the model line up.
Thanks in advance… Harvey

The best i can do is this…
The name ‘Borderer’ was dreamed up in May 1970 by the late Frank Whalley who was the publicity manager for Atkinson Vehicles.
It was one of six names used by the company to identify the different models being built at the time.
The range consisted of tractor units ‘Borderer’ (4x2) and ‘Venturer’ (6x4),
Two-axle chassis ‘Raider’.
Three-axle chassis ‘Searcher’
Four-axle chassis ‘Defender’.
The new model for this generation at the time being the twin steer tractor unit ‘Leader’ (6x2).

Anything earlier and Chris Gardner is the man to put you right.

Almost… I’ve written it somewhere else, so I will try to find it and then paste it in, because I’m lazy. No, actually, busy!

Leader wasn’t wholly new, though, as it was a full re-work of the earlier ‘Rear Steer’ tractors, designed for 38 tons rather than the 32 of the earlier version

The ‘Raider’ name was never actually used in period, as far as I can ascertain, although it was certainly the intended name for the 2-axle rigid. The new range was unveiled at the Earls Court Commercial Motor Show in October 1970

Thank you M M L & 240 Gardiner, so the white knight etc depicts the model of the cabs involved, we called the twin steer 6x2 tractors, a chinese six.
It must have been nice to have a name for each model, Thanks again. I will now go and check I have the right number for the Samaritons. Harvey

[moomooland]

Storey Bros were from Monton Eccles and were the main contractor for Taylor Bros & Co Ltd who had a huge train wheel manufacturing works at Trafford Park Manchester which closed in 1999.

This James Wilkinson Foden DG 6 wheeler, powered by a Gardner 6LW engine, is seen here with complete wheels and axles from Taylor Bros & Co Ltd in Trafford Park which was in fact a sub-contracted load from Storey Bros.

The guy on the left of the picture is George Bradburn senior, while on the right is a young Austin Wilkinson driving one of his dads four Foden’s.
The picture was taken in 1946 /47 prior to British Transport nationalisation when it cost just 3 shillings (15p) for the diesel to go to Derby and back.

A video showing the manufacturing of the last railway wagon wheel manufactured in 1999 at Taylor Brothers can be seen HERE

[smallcoal]

DEANB:
You may find this of intrest Rowly.

Click on page twice to magnify to read.

Ken One of the catnic drivers had echo 1 on it ,after driving he had a CB shop in Caerphilly called triple c he used to fit all the Cb,s in all the wagons he knew is stuff sadly he has passed on RIP echo 1 ,his boys got trucks which they take to shows ,one got a scania l8 Eco rowly will tell you a good family ,I bought many items of him for my truck cheers John ps I pinched these of Bernard sorry mate the last pic is a truck done up in memory of Ken by his family

[smallcoal]

DEANB:
Thats a shame John,that after 90 years the son screwed the company up !!

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Looks like one of his Bedford’s here chap !!

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Jwn23l was still on the road up until he finished he only had 3 new trucks they were gbo626w,mbo779x,both fords ,and e360tth a Bedford all the rest were old trucks he ran m reg,l reg,p reg ,still running strong,even the old Albion used to do 2 Bathgate every week cheers John

[rward]

Ps best family in the world