PAUL GEE's PHOTO COLLECTION (Part 1)

[windrush]

Suedehead:
I think South Staffs freight were from a place called Shenstone ? Cracking pics as ever Dean.

I believe they were part of the B.R. Whorton empire to differentiate from his tipper fleet.

Pete.

[boardo96]

Hi Dean and all,
I could be wrong but I think right in saying the Scania was something to do with the Heaver brothers
from Exeter, back then known as Madderns, I think I’m right by saying it was run by one of the sons.

I’m sure the Volvo used to be run and owned by a chap called Andy White,
he ran a few motors in Aggregate Industries (Bardon) Warmwell quarry, used to see him regularly.
I’m sure you’ve posted a photo of his more recent wagon on here before, can’t think how many
pages ago, it was blue/greyish version 2 possibly 3 with grey or silver stripes on the cab pulling an aggy tipper, obviously not working out of Warmwell anymore as it closed a while back now.

You mentioned about the All Seasons wagons working at a grain mill in Blandford when you were a youngster, would this of been the BOCM mill ? You probably know that they were bought out by Forfarmers and unfortunately Blandford closed about 5 years ago.

A nice lot of photos again Dean, Paul and the others posters,
Hope your all keeping well and away from the “C”
Happy New Year to you all
Cheers Nigel

[erf-ngc-european]

DEANB:
We have had a few of Gro Continental motor’s on here.

Article from Motor Transport paper. Anyone who remember’s these paper will know they were like the Times newspaper.

Therefore the colums are so long that sometimes they cover 2 or even 3 pages on the scanner,so you have to go back
and forth between the pages to read the articles.

On the first page dont bother reading the last column as its on page 2 and then it finishes on page 3 where you will have to
go back to page two to start reading the next column. You will see what i mean.

Before it was called Grocontinental it was called Grocott. Here’s a Grocott outfit being hauled by an ERF demonstrator they set on the Middle East run.

[ray_smyth]

Scouse Bri:
Hi Paul loving your old photos I worked for Ritsons Haulage right up till they closed and I recognised a few of your pictures do you have any more please?

Hi Bri, Welcome to Trucknet, If my memory serves me well, Ritsons were fridge lorries carrying meat from the abattoir on
Prescot Road in Liverpool, not far from the Wholesale Fruit & Veg Market. I think there are some pictures of Ritsons lorries
on the Liverpool Hauliers thread. Cheers, Ray Smyth.

[kingswinford_kit]

DEANB:

kingswinford kit:
“DEANB”

I reckon you and “tas trucker” Trevor will know this company from Hereford.

H.L.Robinson Transport from 1977.

Hi Dean ,yes indeed i do remember H L Robinson ,and thank you for a very interesting article .
Truth to tell i can not remember those TMs ,as Robinsons were mainly ERFs ,hauling tinplate out of Ebbw Vale fpr such places as Metal Box Aintree ,they back loaded sugar from Tate and Lyle or tinned goods from Heinz at Wigan .
Seem to remember some of their ERFs and Atkinsons ended up with TSP transport at Skewen ,cheers Dean have a great Christmas ,Keith

Keith you mentioned TSP Transport. Heres a couple of there motors. Hi Dean ,i forgot to say thank you for these ,yes they also hauled a lot of nickel out of the former Inco Nickel works at Clydach above Swansea , HL Robinson also did this work and would see them both at Wiggins Hereford ,.
TSP ,if my memory serves me correct is Trotter ,Seymour and Powell ,regards and a Happy New Year to both you and Paul ,Keith

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[deanb]

Scouse Bri:
Hi Paul loving your old photos I worked for Ritsons Haulage right up till they closed and I recognised a few of your pictures do you have any more please?

Thanks for the comments Bri,will have a word with Paul and see if there are any more.

1958 clipping.

Another company you may know were Wilson Duke also from Liverpool who pulled fridges.

[deanb]

Chris Webb:
Hi Dean.
Ellerpack were a haulier,from either Goldthorpe or Thurnscoe near Barnsley.They were taken over by George Allinson,Darlington.

Thanks for the info Chris,Happy New Year mucker.

Suedehead:
I think South Staffs freight were from a place called Shenstone ? Cracking pics as ever Dean.

Thanks “Suedehead” your right about Shenstone as Pete Smith sent me a mesage. Happy New Year.

windrush:
“Suedehead” I think South Staffs freight were from a place called Shenstone ? Cracking pics as ever Dean.

I believe they were part of the B.R. Whorton empire to differentiate from his tipper fleet.

Pete.

Thanks Pete, your right as Pete Smith mentioned Whoton as well. Happy New Year.

boardo96:
Hi Dean and all,
I could be wrong but I think right in saying the Scania was something to do with the Heaver brothers
from Exeter, back then known as Madderns, I think I’m right by saying it was run by one of the sons.

I’m sure the Volvo used to be run and owned by a chap called Andy White,
he ran a few motors in Aggregate Industries (Bardon) Warmwell quarry, used to see him regularly.
I’m sure you’ve posted a photo of his more recent wagon on here before, can’t think how many
pages ago, it was blue/greyish version 2 possibly 3 with grey or silver stripes on the cab pulling an aggy tipper, obviously not working out of Warmwell anymore as it closed a while back now.

You mentioned about the All Seasons wagons working at a grain mill in Blandford when you were a youngster, would this of been the BOCM mill ? You probably know that they were bought out by Forfarmers and unfortunately Blandford closed about 5 years ago.

A nice lot of photos again Dean, Paul and the others posters,
Hope your all keeping well and away from the “C”
Happy New Year to you all
Cheers Nigel

Long time no speak Nigel ! The Scania was owned by a company called Helmet and before that by Brian Dobson as Pete Smith messaged me.
I dont know how he remembers everything.

Thanks for the info on the Volvo. Good old All Seasons spent many hours in there as a kid.

Happy New Year Nigel.

ERF-NGC-European:
“DEANB”

We have had a few of Gro Continental motor’s on here.

Before it was called Grocontinental it was called Grocott. Here’s a Grocott outfit being hauled by an ERF demonstrator they set on the Middle East run.

I knew you would post that pic ! Did you read the article ? Happy New Year Ro.

Ray Smyth:
Hi Bri, Welcome to Trucknet, If my memory serves me well, Ritsons were fridge lorries carrying meat from the abattoir on
Prescot Road in Liverpool, not far from the Wholesale Fruit & Veg Market. I think there are some pictures of Ritsons lorries
on the Liverpool Hauliers thread. Cheers, Ray Smyth.

Happy New Year Ray.

kingswinford kit:
“DEANB”

Keith you mentioned TSP Transport. Heres a couple of there motors.

Hi Dean ,i forgot to say thank you for these ,yes they also hauled a lot of nickel out of the former Inco Nickel works at Clydach above Swansea , HL Robinson also did this work and would see them both at Wiggins Hereford ,.
TSP ,if my memory serves me correct is Trotter ,Seymour and Powell ,regards and a Happy New Year to both you and Paul ,Keith

Thanks for the info Keith and Happy New Year !

Happy New Year to everyone else,too many to mention but you know who you are,and lets hope for a better year !

Dont drink too much as you will have a headache in the morning…

[neversweat1]

Hi Dean
You haven’t got the missing bit of the Vincent’s horse box article by any chance ?
Cheers
Steve

[ray_smyth]

Hi Dean, The Wilson-Duke Volvo is attached to a Thomas Wilson fridge trailer. I remember Thomas Wilson Transport,
I think they were from Canal Street in Bootle, the same street as Jarvis Robinson Transport. Perhaps the " Duke " part
of the later company name was connected with Dukes of Northern Ireland.

Best wishes for 2022 Dean, Ray Smyth.

[mark_r]

Great to see the photo of the A Wood Mercedes 1625. Soon after this photo was taken it would have had a third axle fitted so it could run at 38tons. Unfortunately this killed the 1625 pretty much stone dead as they weren’t particularly powerful anyway.
A Wood & Son were based at Detling Aerodrome on the A249 between Maidstone and Sittingbourne Kent.

[mark_r]

Would also like to say Happy New Year and many thanks for continuing to share these great photos… Hopefully you have a few more left for 2022.

[steam]

DEANB:
Elliots Transport Foden.Used to do alot of steel and timber off Poole docks.

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“steam” Any idea who run this ERF,probably an owner driver ■■

Hi Dean, Yes I remember this chap when I drove for Eatons, cant remember his name but I know he lived in Ferndown and yes he was an owner driver.

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E.F.Philips DAF. Dont remember them running DAF artic’s as were big Volvo users.

I always find it funny looking at the size of the tyres on cars back then. Was following a P6 Rover a while back and the tyres
looked so thin bearing in mind it was a V8 3.5 litre motor.

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BP Oil Leyland Bison tanker.

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Anyone recognise the Scania ■■

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A couple of Richards & Osborne’s Volvo F86’s at auction. Would they have taken the tipping bodies off to put on new chassis ?

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R.Blackman Roadtrain. Reckon hes the only fella to have appeared in two Long distance diaries in Truck magazine. One in a Marathon
and the other with this Roadtrain.

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Portuguese Fiat heading for Truckline.

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Ellerpack Bedford which i assume is a recovery truck. The name rings a bell,were Ellerpack a haulier ■■

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Tarmac Topblock Seddon Atkinson 400.

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[steam]

DEANB:
Elliots Transport Foden.Used to do alot of steel and timber off Poole docks.

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“steam” Any idea who run this ERF,probably an owner driver ■■

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E.F.Philips DAF. Dont remember them running DAF artic’s as were big Volvo users.

I always find it funny looking at the size of the tyres on cars back then. Was following a P6 Rover a while back and the tyres
looked so thin bearing in mind it was a V8 3.5 litre motor.

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BP Oil Leyland Bison tanker.

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Anyone recognise the Scania ■■

Hi Dean, could be one of Comptons units

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A couple of Richards & Osborne’s Volvo F86’s at auction. Would they have taken the tipping bodies off to put on new chassis ?

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R.Blackman Roadtrain. Reckon hes the only fella to have appeared in two Long distance diaries in Truck magazine. One in a Marathon
and the other with this Roadtrain.

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Portuguese Fiat heading for Truckline.

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Ellerpack Bedford which i assume is a recovery truck. The name rings a bell,were Ellerpack a haulier ■■

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Tarmac Topblock Seddon Atkinson 400.

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[colinwallace1]

Hi Dean, Independent Express had a depot at Four Ashes. Going north on the A5, turn left past the Hollies(just before the M6).
In the 80’s we would collect the 7.5tonners and take them back to Ford & Slaters, Leicester for serviceing,mot etc.
A good run out for us as 17/18 year old apprentice mechanics. Almost felt like lorry drivers.

Happy New year to all on Trucknet. Colin.

[erf-ngc-european]

Mark R:
Great to see the photo of the A Wood Mercedes 1625. Soon after this photo was taken it would have had a third axle fitted so it could run at 38tons. Unfortunately this killed the 1625 pretty much stone dead as they weren’t particularly powerful anyway.
A Wood & Son were based at Detling Aerodrome on the A249 between Maidstone and Sittingbourne Kent.

Et voila! Here’s a pic of sister ship 776Y when I was loading her at Chingford Fruit Packers in August '87 after receiving that third axle which you can just about see in the pic.

Happy New Year Mark!

Ro

[mark_r]

Ha ha excellent. I think they had about half a dozen before getting the new 2033s. Happy new year and I hope to see you again soon.

[erf-ngc-european]

Mark R:
Ha ha excellent. I think they had about half a dozen before getting the new 2033s. Happy new year and I hope to see you again soon.

That’s right. Here’s BKR 740Y the same month, just loaded for Spitalfields Market. The extra axles made them all a bit on the long side!

[deanb]

DEANB:
“windrush”

Pete i remember you mentioning the Foden rubber suspension a few times in the past. Heres a bit about it from 1980.

In 1980 that would be the ‘Rydewell’ rubber suspension who I believe were based in Northampton? That had the rubber ‘elephants feet’ mounted at right angles to the chassis, it was ok in service but the rear brake chambers protruded past the rear wheels so were no good for paver work. Foden fitted their own rubbers in line with the chassis (like the earlier NORDE system) so the brake chambers could be relocated and they gave very few problems.

We had a S reg Foden S83 with the air taildoor, it wasn’t a success as it often failed to open and the driver had to get out and clean it off after tipping anyway and no more were ordered.

Pete.

Pete / Kempston, was trying to find this yesterday to pop on but only found it today.

1979

neversweat1:
Hi Dean
You haven’t got the missing bit of the Vincent’s horse box article by any chance ?
Cheers
Steve

Yes i have it Steve,finding it is another issue !

Ray Smyth:
Hi Dean, The Wilson-Duke Volvo is attached to a Thomas Wilson fridge trailer. I remember Thomas Wilson Transport,
I think they were from Canal Street in Bootle, the same street as Jarvis Robinson Transport. Perhaps the " Duke " part
of the later company name was connected with Dukes of Northern Ireland.

Best wishes for 2022 Dean, Ray Smyth.

Thanks for the info Ray.

Mark R:
Great to see the photo of the A Wood Mercedes 1625. Soon after this photo was taken it would have had a third axle fitted so it could run at 38tons. Unfortunately this killed the 1625 pretty much stone dead as they weren’t particularly powerful anyway.
A Wood & Son were based at Detling Aerodrome on the A249 between Maidstone and Sittingbourne Kent.

I can imagine that must have been slow to begin with Mark,but at 38 tons…

Mark R:
Would also like to say Happy New Year and many thanks for continuing to share these great photos… Hopefully you have a few more left for 2022.

Cheers Mark,same to you mucker and we are ok for pics chap.

steam:
“DEANB”

“steam” Any idea who run this ERF,probably an owner driver ■■

Hi Dean, Yes I remember this chap when I drove for Eatons, cant remember his name but I know he lived in Ferndown and yes he was an owner driver.

Ok cheers “steam”

steam:
“DEANB”

Anyone recognise the Scania ■■

Hi Dean, could be one of Comptons units

Yeah it could be “steam” or possibly one of Pat Duffy’s from Southampton ?

colinwallace1:
Hi Dean, Independent Express had a depot at Four Ashes. Going north on the A5, turn left past the Hollies(just before the M6).
In the 80’s we would collect the 7.5tonners and take them back to Ford & Slaters, Leicester for serviceing,mot etc.
A good run out for us as 17/18 year old apprentice mechanics. Almost felt like lorry drivers.

Happy New year to all on Trucknet. Colin.

Thanks for the info on the MAN Colin. “Almost felt like lorry drivers”

ERF-NGC-European:
"Mark R"Great to see the photo of the A Wood Mercedes 1625. Soon after this photo was taken it would have had a third axle fitted so it could run at 38tons. Unfortunately this killed the 1625 pretty much stone dead as they weren’t particularly powerful anyway.
A Wood & Son were based at Detling Aerodrome on the A249 between Maidstone and Sittingbourne Kent.

Et voila! Here’s a pic of sister ship 776Y when I was loading her at Chingford Fruit Packers in August '87 after receiving that third axle which you can just about see in the pic.

Happy New Year Mark!

Ro
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ERF-NGC-European:
“Mark R”
Ha ha excellent. I think they had about half a dozen before getting the new 2033s. Happy new year and I hope to see you again soon.

That’s right. Here’s BKR 740Y the same month, just loaded for Spitalfields Market. The extra axles made them all a bit on the long side.

Certainly left a big gap between trailer and the back of the cab so mpg must have suffered Ro.

Thanks for the pic’s Ro. Chingford Fruit Packers,thats a blast from the past.

A couple of clippings about A.Wood & Son’s from 1987.

Clipping about the brother R.J.Wood from 1992.

[deanb]

Molo Scania 110 “Super” from Poole.

Will pop some more pics on later but under pressure in the kitchen cooking a roast…

Ro, i see you were asking somewhere about what the “Super” meant on the Scania’s. Heres an explanation from Commercial Motor.

[erf-ngc-european]

It was swings an roundabouts with those NG 1625s and 1626s Dean. At 38-tonnes you ground your way, largely uphill, from Faversham to London gearing down in fistfuls; but at 12 or so tonnes coming home downhill it was 70+ mph all the way