PAUL GEE's PHOTO COLLECTION (Part 1)

“windrush” Pete i remember you mentioning the Foden rubber suspension a few times in the past. Heres a bit about it from 1980.

Anyone driving a tipper must have been chuffed when the automatic tail gates were introduced,especially if tipping in a
real muddly site.

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“steam” Another colour scheme Whites had. Leyland Constructor seen here on the Wimborne bypass.

Upton Oil Foden from Poole.

Anyone know where the Harris Carpets Volvo F6 was based ■■

Dont remember ever seeing a Express Independent truck before,anyone know anything about them ■■

Not sure of the manufacturer of this dump truck,possibly Haulmatic ■■

Cant make the name out on the upholstery Mercedes artic ■■ Seen here heading towards Branksome and almost certainly heading
into the Redlands pipes old site which had several furniture outlets on it. Ray Smyth can you remember roughly when Redland Pipes
finished ?

No idea who operated the Leyland Buffalo ?

John Marsh - Blackpool Van Haulage Seddon tkinson 401 seen here heading towards Poole.

Anyone recognise the reg on the DAF 2800 or the name “Gina” on the front ■■ Seen here heading towards Poole from Wimborne.

A.J.Wood & Son Mercedes from Paddock Wood i think.

DEANB:
“windrush” Pete i remember you mentioning the Foden rubber suspension a few times in the past. Heres a bit about it from 1980.

The Fodens I ran for Smiths had the rubber suspension units, never caused us any problems whatsoever Dean.

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Anyone driving a tipper must have been chuffed when the automatic tail gates were introduced,especially if tipping in a
real muddly site.

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FKJ 777Y was an NG 1625, Dean. I drove it’s sister, 776Y, on occasions for A. Wood of Detling, Kent.

DEANB:
“steam” Another colour scheme Whites had. Leyland Constructor seen here on the Wimborne bypass.

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Upton Oil Foden from Poole.

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Anyone know where the Harris Carpets Volvo F6 was based ■■

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Dont remember ever seeing a Express Independent truck before,anyone know anything about them ■■

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Not sure of the manufacturer of this dump truck,possibly Haulmatic ■■

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Cant make the name out on the upholstery Mercedes artic ■■ Seen here heading towards Branksome and almost certainly heading
into the Redlands pipes old site which had several furniture outlets on it. Ray Smyth can you remember roughly when Redland Pipes
finished ?

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No idea who operated the Leyland Buffalo ?

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John Marsh - Blackpool Van Haulage Seddon tkinson 401 seen here heading towards Poole.

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Anyone recognise the reg on the DAF 2800 or the name “Gina” on the front ■■ Seen here heading towards Poole from Wimborne.

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A.J.Wood & Son Mercedes from Paddock Wood i think.

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Hi Dean, I know very little about Redlands pipes, other than their site at Branksome where I often parked overnight,
having delivered to Remploy at Alder Hills, and their local site at Cale Lane, New Springs, Wigan. Cheers, Ray.

DEANB:
Anyone recognise the Iveco reg ■■

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“steam” Do you remember this company from Wimborne WA ■■? Says 10 phone lines on the front.Is it something to do with Whites,
Gravel Hill.

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Trefor Bedford TM. Wonder if he passed.

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Castrol Leyland Constructor.

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Anyone recognise the Mercedes with the distinctive colour scheme ■■

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Foden dumper truck.

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Anyone know where the J.E.Edwards F88 is based ■■

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Think it says Chindwell ? from London on the Mercedes.

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Channel Express Volvo F10 from Bournemouth airport. They operate freight planes back and forth to Jersey.

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Whiteheads Distribution Volvo F7 from Croydon seen here heading towards Bournemouth from Poole and no doubt will be
going up the spur road towards Ringwood and the M27.

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Hello again DEAN ,the Edwards Volvo F88 were from Oakengates Shropshire ,.what a nice surprise ! this was always a small set up ,those pipes are from Johnston Pipes who used to be at Doseley a few miles away ,thank you Trevor

DEANB:
Anyone know where the Harris Carpets Volvo F6 was based ■■

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Not sure where Harris carpets where from, might have been Westbury ?
One thing is for sure, the sale will end bank holiday Monday :slight_smile:

DEANB:
We have had some cracking steel hauling motors on here over the last couple years.

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Hi Dean ,some great memories here from S Wales !! .Good to see a Joint Motorways in traditional colours ,love that John James Scammel Handyman ,they were based in the Forest of Dean and mostly worked out of Llanwern ,as did Glyn Morris from Gorsley nr Ross ,he had a few Atkinsons and also did coke into Llanwern .
Also good memories of Davies of Morriston and their Crusaders ,one of their respected drivers Dickie Darroll (RIP) based in Leominster did a lot of tinplate to Wisbech ,and named his Crusader “Fenland Express” ,as i say great memories regards Keith

DEANB:

ParkRoyal2100:
“DEANB”

Just a wild guess Dean but that looks like Poole Rd in Branksome. “UB” was a Leeds area code.

Good wild guess chap,did you live local to know that,or just deliver in the area ?
Occasionally, but a long-time mate of mine I met at a transport mob the early '80s lives in Bournemouth.

Ok cheers. :wink:

ParkRoyal2100:
“DEANB”
I thought all Seddon Atkinsons were crap ■■? :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

Now now, don’t you be upsetting people on here :wink:

:unamused: :laughing: :wink:

Carl Williams:
“DEANB”

I take it this is one of Thorn’s own motors ?

Yes Thorn had 10 or 12 drivers based at Spennymoor. They were paid as staff with an extremely attractive wage but fixed with no overtime. They also booked them into 4 star hotels when overnight. They had quite a steady income and lifestyle with no incentive to work efficiently. Unfortunately accountants eventually discovered it cost them more to deliver the Tricity cookers than they were selling them for. We took over most of their fleet of D series Ford which had 30 ft trailers and drivers either retired or were promoted into jobs in the factory. However as you imagine it was a very tricky job to negotiate as at the time at Spennymoor they employed 7500 people and the union was very militant. In a 5 year period for example they never had a day without either a strike, go slow, overtime ban or work to rule. 3 drivers would not budge, and their Ford D series needed replacing, At the same time the TV tube factory which I think was at Durham was closing as tubes were being replaced by modern technology. The transport was contracted to Cawthorn & Sinclaire of Birtley (Near Gateshead) They didn’t want to buy new Tractor Units and therefore bought 3 from Cawthorn. I forget where the trailers came from, but we painted them for them in our paint shop. The funny thing was they provided a diagram of how they wanted the trailers painting based on a Ford D series boxvan. Our signwriter pointed out that the writing would look silly if he kept the same dimentions on a forty foot trailer, as the height was about the same but the length was about half as the boxvans were 20ft. So we had to wait about 10 days whilst they contacted the designers and had meetings etc to see what should be done until eventually the reply came back ‘Do it as what the sign writer thinks would look best’

Thanks for the comments Carl,intresting. Sounds like the drivers had a cracking job whilst it lasted. :smiley:

Carl Williams:
Thorn Heating had a factory in Team Valley trading estate. I cannot remember the year or the name of the Haulier but he ran about 20 Commer tractors with 28ft flat trailers delivering Boilers and radiators manufactured in the factory. We were approached by a Thorn senior executive from their head office in Enfield. & asked would we consider buying the business and taking over the contract which they would happily renew with us, as the owner wished to retire as he was quite old. We had discussions and agreed the price and with talks with the Thorn executive I suggested we would over a year or so renew the fleet with 40ft tautliner trailers and heavier tractor units, pointing out this would be a lot more efficient.
My dad had talks with one of our oldest drivers Ray Hornby who he trusted & felt could run the Gateshead operation and talks were progressing smoothly until it was put to a main board meeting of Thorn Electrical Industries who decided by using us they would be putting too many eggs in one basket. We were told we could have the Heating Contract but we would have to pull out of the Smart & Brown Domestic Appliance operation at Spennymoor, but not have both.

As a consolation we were given the contact to deliver the spares & repairs delivery contact which was one van (see photo) I cannot remember when but Barnfather & Wilkes were tipper operators mainly carrying Coal from their depot at Sherburn Hill, Durham (by memory) and eventually they took over the heating product deliveries manufactured at Team Valley

Thanks again for the information Carl,good stuff. Great pic’s of the Bedford TK’s. :smiley: :wink:

smallcoal:
Been up yard to get bedding in ready Xmas present from the kids

Good size mattress in those Daf’s John. :wink:

Carl Williams:
To illustrate the different interpretation of the painting of the Thorn trailer :

Both these trailers were painted in our paint shop with writing done by our sign writer Peter Butler. The first being one of our trailers where it was our choice The second being one of their own where they insisted the lettering was exactly as their designer had drawn (On a 20 ft boxvan). See earlier post

Looked alot better on your trailer Carl,thanks again for the pic. :wink:

I could be wrong Carl about the Thorn Radiator job, I think it might have been Eddie Atkinson from Pelton.
I seem to remember he bought a lot of those Commers from Cawthorne Sinclair. I do remember one of the
Commers had the word “Haulage” misspelt by the signwriter as Eddie Atkinson Hualage. Oops!! Regards Kev.

Ray Smyth:

DEANB:
“steam” Another colour scheme Whites had. Leyland Constructor seen here on the Wimborne bypass.

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Upton Oil Foden from Poole.

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Anyone know where the Harris Carpets Volvo F6 was based ■■

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Dont remember ever seeing a Express Independent truck before,anyone know anything about them ■■

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Not sure of the manufacturer of this dump truck,possibly Haulmatic ■■

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Cant make the name out on the upholstery Mercedes artic ■■ Seen here heading towards Branksome and almost certainly heading
into the Redlands pipes old site which had several furniture outlets on it. Ray Smyth can you remember roughly when Redland Pipes
finished ?

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No idea who operated the Leyland Buffalo ?

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John Marsh - Blackpool Van Haulage Seddon tkinson 401 seen here heading towards Poole.

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Anyone recognise the reg on the DAF 2800 or the name “Gina” on the front ■■ Seen here heading towards Poole from Wimborne.

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A.J.Wood & Son Mercedes from Paddock Wood i think.

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Hi Dean, I know very little about Redlands pipes, other than their site at Branksome where I often parked overnight,
having delivered to Remploy at Alder Hills, and their local site at Cale Lane, New Springs, Wigan. Cheers, Ray.

Hi ray,used to do all the remploy with w Jones removals years ago ,cale lane is the big Redlands tiles site we load out of there regularly for Cardiff

Kempston:
“DEANB”

“windrush” Pete i remember you mentioning the Foden rubber suspension a few times in the past. Heres a bit about it from 1980.

The Fodens I ran for Smiths had the rubber suspension units, never caused us any problems whatsoever Dean.

I cant remember what Pete said about them Kempston. :unamused: :laughing:

ERF-NGC-European:
FKJ 777Y was an NG 1625, Dean. I drove it’s sister, 776Y, on occasions for A. Wood of Detling, Kent.

Cheers Ro, sounds like it would have been slow. :laughing: :wink:

Ray Smyth:
Hi Dean, I know very little about Redlands pipes, other than their site at Branksome where I often parked overnight,
having delivered to Remploy at Alder Hills, and their local site at Cale Lane, New Springs, Wigan. Cheers, Ray.

No worries Ray,think it was probably in the 80’s. :wink:

tastrucker:
“DEANB”

Anyone know where the J.E.Edwards F88 is based ■■

Hello again DEAN ,the Edwards Volvo F88 were from Oakengates Shropshire ,.what a nice surprise ! this was always a small set up ,those pipes are from Johnston Pipes who used to be at Doseley a few miles away ,thank you Trevor

Thanks for the details Trevor,amazing how many companies run out of Shropshire. :wink:

Suedehead:
“DEANB”

Anyone know where the Harris Carpets Volvo F6 was based ■■

Not sure where Harris carpets where from, might have been Westbury ?
One thing is for sure, the sale will end bank holiday Monday :slight_smile:

:laughing: :laughing: :laughing: Thats so true about sales. I remember a furniture store that used to have sales on 10 months of the year. :wink:

kingswinford kit:
“DEANB”

We have had some cracking steel hauling motors on here over the last couple years.

Hi Dean ,some great memories here from S Wales !! .Good to see a Joint Motorways in traditional colours ,love that John James Scammel Handyman ,they were based in the Forest of Dean and mostly worked out of Llanwern ,as did Glyn Morris from Gorsley nr Ross ,he had a few Atkinsons and also did coke into Llanwern .
Also good memories of Davies of Morriston and their Crusaders ,one of their respected drivers Dickie Darroll (RIP) based in Leominster did a lot of tinplate to Wisbech ,and named his Crusader “Fenland Express” ,as i say great memories regards Keith

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Glad they brought back some good memories Keith. :wink:

Thanks for the comments below “kevmac47”. I expect Carl will answer when he comes back on. :wink:

smallcoal:
“Ray Smyth”

Hi Dean, I know very little about Redlands pipes, other than their site at Branksome where I often parked overnight,
having delivered to Remploy at Alder Hills, and their local site at Cale Lane, New Springs, Wigan. Cheers, Ray.
Hi ray,used to do all the remploy with w Jones removals years ago ,cale lane is the big Redlands tiles site we load out of there regularly for Cardiff

Thanks for the comments John. :wink:

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Dont remember ever seeing a Express Independent truck before,anyone know anything about them ■■

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I think they were part of IPEC which then were taken over by TNT

DEANB:
“windrush” Pete i remember you mentioning the Foden rubber suspension a few times in the past. Heres a bit about it from 1980.

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Anyone driving a tipper must have been chuffed when the automatic tail gates were introduced,especially if tipping in a
real muddly site.

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In 1980 that would be the ‘Rydewell’ rubber suspension who I believe were based in Northampton? That had the rubber ‘elephants feet’ mounted at right angles to the chassis, it was ok in service but the rear brake chambers protruded past the rear wheels so were no good for paver work. Foden fitted their own rubbers in line with the chassis (like the earlier NORDE system) so the brake chambers could be relocated and they gave very few problems.

We had a S reg Foden S83 with the air taildoor, it wasn’t a success as it often failed to open and the driver had to get out and clean it off after tipping anyway and no more were ordered.

Pete.

windrush:
“DEANB” “windrush” Pete i remember you mentioning the Foden rubber suspension a few times in the past. Heres a bit about it from 1980.

Anyone driving a tipper must have been chuffed when the automatic tail gates were introduced,especially if tipping in a
real muddly site.

In 1980 that would be the ‘Rydewell’ rubber suspension who I believe were based in Northampton? That had the rubber ‘elephants feet’ mounted at right angles to the chassis, it was ok in service but the rear brake chambers protruded past the rear wheels so were no good for paver work. Foden fitted their own rubbers in line with the chassis (like the earlier NORDE system) so the brake chambers could be relocated and they gave very few problems.

We had a S reg Foden S83 with the air taildoor, it wasn’t a success as it often failed to open and the driver had to get out and clean it off after tipping anyway and no more were ordered.

Pete.

Pete,sounds like your experience of the rubber suspension was the same as “Kempston’s.”

Not surprised to hear that the air tailgate was not a success,usually takes a while for new designs to be revamped to work. :wink:

We have had a few of Gro Continental motor’s on here.

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Article from Motor Transport paper. Anyone who remember’s these paper will know they were like the Times newspaper.

Therefore the colums are so long that sometimes they cover 2 or even 3 pages on the scanner,so you have to go back
and forth between the pages to read the articles.

On the first page dont bother reading the last column as its on page 2 and then it finishes on page 3 where you will have to
go back to page two to start reading the next column. :unamused: You will see what i mean.

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Anyone recognise the Volvo tipper. Looks like it may work from a quarry and seen near Bath.

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Mid Hants Bulk DAF. Not sure exactly where they are based in Hampshire ?

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Commodore Haulage DAF from Southampton.

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All Seasons Transport used to operate out of the grain mill at Blandford when i was a kid with a colour scheme that was
blue and white.Dont know what happened to them but looks like N.D.Young from Shillingstone took over the trucks but
not the mill.

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Heres one of All Seasons DAF’s in there original colour scheme from there basingstoke depot.

Baylis Distribution ERF.Think they had several depots.

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Dont think we have had a South Staffs Freight motor on before,anyone know where they were based ?

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Bowmur Scania. Never understand why companies dont have there phone number / website on the truck for free advertising.

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Anyone recognise this motor,looks like an owner driver ■■

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A & S Transport MAN. Think it says Chester on the door ?

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Elliots Transport Foden.Used to do alot of steel and timber off Poole docks.

“steam” Any idea who run this ERF,probably an owner driver ■■

E.F.Philips DAF. Dont remember them running DAF artic’s as were big Volvo users.

I always find it funny looking at the size of the tyres on cars back then. Was following a P6 Rover a while back and the tyres
looked so thin bearing in mind it was a V8 3.5 litre motor.

BP Oil Leyland Bison tanker.

Anyone recognise the Scania ■■

A couple of Richards & Osborne’s Volvo F86’s at auction. Would they have taken the tipping bodies off to put on new chassis ?

R.Blackman Roadtrain. Reckon hes the only fella to have appeared in two Long distance diaries in Truck magazine. One in a Marathon
and the other with this Roadtrain.

Portuguese Fiat heading for Truckline.

Ellerpack Bedford which i assume is a recovery truck. The name rings a bell,were Ellerpack a haulier ■■

Tarmac Topblock Seddon Atkinson 400.

Hi Paul loving your old photos I worked for Ritsons Haulage right up till they closed and I recognised a few of your pictures do you have any more please?

Hi Dean.
Ellerpack were a haulier,from either Goldthorpe or Thurnscoe near Barnsley.They were taken over by George Allinson,Darlington.

I think South Staffs freight were from a place called Shenstone ? Cracking pics as ever Dean.