rward:
Went in. Pub last night down west wales cenarth falls were I got caravan got talking to a woman turns out to be Sid Evans j and m transport daughter
Ex Middle East driver who I know andrew cooper greatly admired I told her he was a legend I never met him she was so pleased to talk obout him and his Middle East days with pride lovely girl and then l look at this brilliant thread and j@m is on here regards rowly
Hi Rowly,
What are the odds on that? Amazing sometimes how things can work out.Dean excellent images once again.loveing the J&M photos,my childhood was spent with them.
Regards andrew.
Stanfield:
LPG Batley also had one of the best Driver Trainers (Tankers) you could wish to meet Mr Alan Walker any of you Tanker lads remember him ? I have a feeling he was a member on here at one time.
Was he thinning on top and wore glasses , I remember when I was around 17 , out with my dad and uncle in the local club sunday dinner and he introduced me to a bloke who worked for LPG a nice chap and I`m sure he said he was the trainer there
Tut Tut “Ramone” that was a bit late 17 to starting supping ! I recall having my first pint of Duttons Bitter ( bought for me ) at 14 in The Victoria Tavern, Kendal, just by the railway bridge over the A6 1/10d a pint from memory in 1961 ! Cheers Dennis.
Now then Dennis i didnt say i started drinking at 17 but to be fair it was 15 before i còuld get away with it on a regular basis then again i supose up in ■■■■■■■ they probably didnt have tv electricity or running water when you were a lad so there would be very little for you to do. Obviously its reached there now
smallcoal:
Morning dean, j&m were Bridgend based this pic is of Ian underhill one of the drivers who also worked for prothroes ,they had a transcon shunting in port talbot driven by crazy horse ,the pics again are brilliant, one of the members on here scania81 is an ex j&m driver cheers John
Thanks for your comments “crazy horse” sounds like he was a character !
rward:
The red Sedon Atkinson is brooks transport Caerphilly . Butchers Atki was from cross keys Gwent regards rowly
Thanks Rowland for confirming that !
Spud1960:
DEANB:
A fair few Welsh motors about today !
FWT Ross Foden
9
Anyone recognise the Crusader tanker ■■?
8
Could by Sykes - Steve Cook’s yer man to ask
Anyone recognise the ERF flat bed ■■?
7
Rubery Ltd ERF bulker.
6
John Eckley DAF
5
BP Oil F86 tanker.
4
Owens Borderer.
3
Crow tanker.
2
British steel Seddon Atkinson with Crusader on the back.I see one of the drivers has his son with him !
Does not appear to be much fastening the Crusader on ? Can only make out the one chain ■■?
1
Brown Bros Foden bulk powder tanker.
0
Cheers “Spud1960” for your input !
gingerfold:
DEANB:
Wynns ERF tanker. Did Wynns run many tankers ■■ Looks like a commer going the other way.
4
Yes, Wynn’s had quite a large tanker division in the 1950’s and 1960’s in particular. Mainly Guy Warriors and Invincibles back then
Thanks Graham i did not realise they did so much tanker work. You always just think of the heavy haulage
side.
grumpy old man:
Stanfield:
LPG Batley also had one of the best Driver Trainers (Tankers) you could wish to meet Mr Alan Walker any of you Tanker lads remember him ? I have a feeling he was a member on here at one time.
I grew up with Alan, we were born in Heckmondwike, Alan was a good man and what he didn’t know about the tanker job wasn’t worth knowing.
I once attended one of his hazard courses, we did 3 days at it, everybody passed and as we were leaving…“oh Brian, do you want/need an ADR card”
“that’ll be very nice Alan, thank you very much”
How much today to get an ADR card??
scania81:
smallcoal:
Morning dean, j&m were Bridgend based this pic is of Ian underhill one of the drivers who also worked for prothroes ,they had a transcon shunting in port talbot driven by crazy horse ,the pics again are brilliant, one of the members on here scania81 is an ex j&m driver cheers John
Hi smallcoal i was a bit young to work for J&M.
Got photos from years ago,remember them loading at costains and down the abbey works.
Ian Underhill also worked for David Beer when he ran two trucks.
Love the butchers motor.Sure they were from Cross Keys by the side of the old Cory Distribution yard.
Cheers
Dai
DEANB:
Wynns ERF tanker. Did Wynns run many tankers ■■
5
They ran quite a large fleet of tankers of various sizes and shapes from the 1950’s through to the late 1970’s early 80’s.
4
3
2They even ran this unusual set up which enabled two different products to be carried at the same time.
W & J Riding also had a similar tanker, built by Carmichael of Worcester it was originally part of the BICC fleet where it was pulled by a tilt cab Leyland Beaver below…
1 When EVC took over the business the tanker was allocated to Riding’s for a nominal fee.
0 The two tanks were built to enable two different coloured products to be carried at the same time with the plastic granules compounded at Helsby and transported to Wrexham.
The hydraulic motor and the Holmes blower needed to tip and discharge the tanks were driven by a Ford four cylinder diesel engine carried under the tanker.
Thanks for the excellent pics Paul. I dont remember those twin tank trailers.
stevecook:
Spud1960:
DEANB:
A fair few Welsh motors about today !
FWT Ross Foden
9
Anyone recognise the Crusader tanker ■■?
8
Could by Sykes - Steve Cook’s yer man to ask
Anyone recognise the ERF flat bed ■■?
7
Rubery Ltd ERF bulker.
6
John Eckley DAF
5
BP Oil F86 tanker.
4
Owens Borderer.
3
Crow tanker.
2
British steel Seddon Atkinson with Crusader on the back.I see one of the drivers has his son with him !
Does not appear to be much fastening the Crusader on ? Can only make out the one chain ■■?
1
Brown Bros Foden bulk powder tanker.
0
Quite definitely Sykes Bulk Liquids Crusader spud, pity reg is not visible.
Cheers Steve !
rward:
Went in. Pub last night down west wales cenarth falls were I got caravan got talking to a woman turns out to be Sid Evans j and m transport daughter
Ex Middle East driver who I know andrew cooper greatly admired I told her he was a legend I never met him she was so pleased to talk obout him and his Middle East days with pride lovely girl and then l look at this brilliant thread and j@m is on here regards rowly
Great story Rowland,you never know who you are going to bump into or what pics are going to turn up
on here !
pete 359:
rward:
Went in. Pub last night down west wales cenarth falls were I got caravan got talking to a woman turns out to be Sid Evans j and m transport daughter
Ex Middle East driver who I know andrew cooper greatly admired I told her he was a legend I never met him she was so pleased to talk obout him and his Middle East days with pride lovely girl and then l look at this brilliant thread and j@m is on here regards rowly
Hi Rowly,
What are the odds on that? Amazing sometimes how things can work out.Dean excellent images once again.loveing the J&M photos,my childhood was spent with them.
Regards andrew.
Hiya Dean,great shots once again…one pic today caught my eye and I thought the reg number was familiar,F.J.Edwards must have been the first owner as TBX 950S ended her days with Mansel Davies.After sterling service on front line duties(my pic shows her passing Bristol on the M4) I photographed her in the yard where she was used for just the harvest period and taxed accordingly…my last visit to Llanfyrnach saw her in the graveyard and she’d been pushed to her final resting place by a loading shovel and all the front of the cab was stuffed in .Sorry to witter on,Cheers Bubbs,
ERF tractor unit Reg No TYB 452M was new in August 1973 and remained on the road for over 20 years until 1995 finishing up on the fairground circuit below…
DEANB:
Wynns ERF tanker. Did Wynns run many tankers ■■
They ran quite a large fleet of tankers of various sizes and shapes from the 1950’s through to the late 1970’s early 80’s.
They even ran this unusual set up which enabled two different products to be carried at the same time.
W & J Riding also had a similar tanker, built by Carmichael of Worcester it was originally part of the BICC fleet where it was pulled by a tilt cab Leyland Beaver below…
When EVC took over the business the tanker was allocated to Riding’s for a nominal fee.
The two tanks were built to enable two different coloured products to be carried at the same time with the plastic granules compounded at Helsby and transported to Wrexham.
The hydraulic motor and the Holmes blower needed to tip and discharge the tanks were driven by a Ford four cylinder diesel engine carried under the tanker.
Thanks for the excellent pics Paul. I dont remember those twin tank trailers.
British steel Seddon Atkinson with Crusader on the back.I see one of the drivers has his son with him !
Does not appear to be much fastening the Crusader on ? Can only make out the one chain ■■?
Brown Bros Foden bulk powder tanker.
Quite definitely Sykes Bulk Liquids Crusader spud, pity reg is not visible.
Cheers Steve !
rward:
Went in. Pub last night down west wales cenarth falls were I got caravan got talking to a woman turns out to be Sid Evans j and m transport daughter
Ex Middle East driver who I know andrew cooper greatly admired I told her he was a legend I never met him she was so pleased to talk obout him and his Middle East days with pride lovely girl and then l look at this brilliant thread and j@m is on here regards rowly
Great story Rowland,you never know who you are going to bump into or what pics are going to turn up
on here !
pete 359:
rward:
Went in. Pub last night down west wales cenarth falls were I got caravan got talking to a woman turns out to be Sid Evans j and m transport daughter
Ex Middle East driver who I know andrew cooper greatly admired I told her he was a legend I never met him she was so pleased to talk obout him and his Middle East days with pride lovely girl and then l look at this brilliant thread and j@m is on here regards rowly
Hi Rowly,
What are the odds on that? Amazing sometimes how things can work out.Dean excellent images once again.loveing the J&M photos,my childhood was spent with them.
Regards andrew.
Andrew how big were J & M out of intrest ■■
Hi DEAN,
At their peak i’d say around 10-12 Ford transcontinental units,35 plus trailers and a few subbies.
regards andrew.
GJ Virgo & Sons F88 Volvo.Bit of an unusual trailer ?
TruckNetUK.Old Time Lorries.Paul Gee’s Collection.Volvo F88 4x2-2,Stake-Bodied,Articulated Lorry.VALKYRIE.Monday,4th September,2017.
Hello DeanB The Volvo F88 articulated lorry of G.J.Virgo & Sons has,what the Americans term and call,a Stake Body,and has unusually a semi-
trailer with just one axle. I might be wrong,but the Volvo and it’s stake-bodied semi-trailer was probably used to transport lightweight products
and loads and needed the stake body to just keep the load together.
Stake bodies are usually made of wood and are not hardwearing - metal stake bodies are hardwearing and better all round
.Volvo F88 4x2-2,Stake-Bodied,Articulated Lorry.J.G.Virgo & Sons.The Americans term this type of body a Stake Body.TNUK-OTL Paul Gees Photo Collection.Page 57:-
bubbleman:
Hiya Dean,great shots once again…one pic today caught my eye and I thought the reg number was familiar,F.J.Edwards must have been the first owner as TBX 950S ended her days with Mansel Davies.After sterling service on front line duties(my pic shows her passing Bristol on the M4) I photographed her in the yard where she was used for just the harvest period and taxed accordingly…my last visit to Llanfyrnach saw her in the graveyard and she’d been pushed to her final resting place by a loading shovel and all the front of the cab was stuffed in .Sorry to witter on,Cheers Bubbs,
Thanks for the comments and pic Bubbs,lovely motors.
moomooland:
ERF tractor unit Reg No TYB 452M was new in August 1973 and remained on the road for over 20 years until 1995 finishing up on the fairground circuit below…
TYB 452M seen here in June 1984 when operated by R. Phiilips & Sons Amusements.
Photograph courtesy of Alison Price
Another good find Paul, thanks for posting the pic. That motor did well 20 years !
pete 359:
moomooland:
DEANB:
Wynns ERF tanker. Did Wynns run many tankers ■■
4
They ran quite a large fleet of tankers of various sizes and shapes from the 1950’s through to the late 1970’s early 80’s.
3
2
1They even ran this unusual set up which enabled two different products to be carried at the same time.
W & J Riding also had a similar tanker, built by Carmichael of Worcester it was originally part of the BICC fleet where it was pulled by a tilt cab Leyland Beaver below…
0 When EVC took over the business the tanker was allocated to Riding’s for a nominal fee.
The two tanks were built to enable two different coloured products to be carried at the same time with the plastic granules compounded at Helsby and transported to Wrexham.
The hydraulic motor and the Holmes blower needed to tip and discharge the tanks were driven by a Ford four cylinder diesel engine carried under the tanker.
Thanks for the excellent pics Paul. I dont remember those twin tank trailers.
stevecook:
Spud1960:
DEANB:
A fair few Welsh motors about today !
FWT Ross Foden
8
Anyone recognise the Crusader tanker ■■?
7
Could by Sykes - Steve Cook’s yer man to ask
Anyone recognise the ERF flat bed ■■?
6
Rubery Ltd ERF bulker.
5
John Eckley DAF
4
BP Oil F86 tanker.
3
Owens Borderer.
2
Crow tanker.
1
British steel Seddon Atkinson with Crusader on the back.I see one of the drivers has his son with him !
Does not appear to be much fastening the Crusader on ? Can only make out the one chain ■■?
0
Brown Bros Foden bulk powder tanker.
Quite definitely Sykes Bulk Liquids Crusader spud, pity reg is not visible.
Cheers Steve !
rward:
Went in. Pub last night down west wales cenarth falls were I got caravan got talking to a woman turns out to be Sid Evans j and m transport daughter
Ex Middle East driver who I know andrew cooper greatly admired I told her he was a legend I never met him she was so pleased to talk obout him and his Middle East days with pride lovely girl and then l look at this brilliant thread and j@m is on here regards rowly
Great story Rowland,you never know who you are going to bump into or what pics are going to turn up
on here !
pete 359:
rward:
Went in. Pub last night down west wales cenarth falls were I got caravan got talking to a woman turns out to be Sid Evans j and m transport daughter
Ex Middle East driver who I know andrew cooper greatly admired I told her he was a legend I never met him she was so pleased to talk obout him and his Middle East days with pride lovely girl and then l look at this brilliant thread and j@m is on here regards rowly
Hi Rowly,
What are the odds on that? Amazing sometimes how things can work out.Dean excellent images once again.loveing the J&M photos,my childhood was spent with them.
Regards andrew.
Andrew how big were J & M out of intrest ■■
Hi DEAN,
At their peak i’d say around 10-12 Ford transcontinental units,35 plus trailers and a few subbies.
regards andrew.
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Bugger the transcons Andrew look at them F88’s !
Hi Dean,
What a cracking looking truck, well ballanced and a great headboard sign, bet that would look fantastic in colour.
Thanks for what you two do to put this site to-gether and the work you put in. Harvey
Morning chaps, the trailer behind the Virgo F88 reminds me of the type run by Calor Gas as the bottles needed restraining. They had a depot in Southampton and quite often used sub contractors during the winter months when they got really busy due to the cold weather, Buzzer
GJ Virgo & Sons F88 Volvo.Bit of an unusual trailer ?
1
TruckNetUK.Old Time Lorries.Paul Gee’s Collection.Volvo F88 4x2-2,Stake-Bodied,Articulated Lorry.VALKYRIE.Monday,4th September,2017.
Hello DeanB The Volvo F88 articulated lorry of G.J.Virgo & Sons has,what the Americans term and call,a Stake Body,and has unusually a semi-
trailer with just one axle. I might be wrong,but the Volvo and it’s stake-bodied semi-trailer was probably used to transport lightweight products
and loads and needed the stake body to just keep the load together.
Stake bodies are usually made of wood and are not hardwearing - metal stake bodies are hardwearing and better all round
.Volvo F88 4x2-2,Stake-Bodied,Articulated Lorry.J.G.Virgo & Sons.The Americans term this type of body a Stake Body.TNUK-OTL Paul Gees Photo Collection.Page 57:-
1
Hi Dean,
What a cracking looking truck, well ballanced and a great headboard sign, bet that would look fantastic in colour.
Thanks for what you two do to put this site to-gether and the work you put in. Harvey
Thanks Harvey for your comments. I agree that truck looks great and the cab sign is a gem !!
Buzzer:
Morning chaps, the trailer behind the Virgo F88 reminds me of the type run by Calor Gas as the bottles needed restraining. They had a depot in Southampton and quite often used sub contractors during the winter months when they got really busy due to the cold weather, Buzzer
I recall having my first pint of Duttons Bitter ( bought for me 
) at 14 in The Victoria Tavern, Kendal, just by the railway bridge over the A6 1/10d a pint from memory in 1961 ! 
Cheers Dennis.
.Sorry to witter on,Cheers Bubbs, 
The Volvo F88 articulated lorry of G.J.Virgo & Sons has,what the Americans term and call,a Stake Body,and has unusually a semi-
