again Paul, i take it Tom is back from his holidays then !!
is and he said that was a superb ‘on the road’ image, i have most details on file for the fleet but for some reason had nothing on URN 420R.
4This Foden S36 ELU 971J was originally registered new in October 1970 and remained on the road for twenty years until September 1990.
It’s pictured below in later life still operated by Pat Collins with an updated body and livery.
3Photograph courtesy of John Gibbs
Thanks Paul for the pic and the info. That motor lasted well,cant knock 20 years. Mind you in that line of
work the mileage but be very low as sat all week in one place before they move on to the next town. 
TruckNetUK.Old Time Lorries.Paul Gee’s Photo Collection.Fairground Vehicle Mileage.Atkinson.VALKYRIE.Wednesday,30th August,2017.
Thanks for publishing the great photographs of those very interesting fairground vehicles
Fairground Vehicles are just as much Commercial
Vehicles as any other type of commercial vehicle operated by commercial vehicle operators 
Foden S21 Spaceship Sputnik Showmans Ballast Diesel Road Locomotive,ULU 809F,painted yellow,with red relief,pulling a Meteorite Ride was
operated by Billy Roberts & Sons.It was originally operated as a bulk tanker by Blue Circle Portland Cement,Cement Marketing Company.
In regard to fairground vehicle mileage:Many fairground vehicles travel from funfair to funfair on an established funfair-fairground circuit on a
yearly basis.But also many other fairground vehicles make long distance journeys to funfair-feasts all over the United Kingdom.
For example, showmen in South Yorkshire travel up to Newcastle for the famous Town Moor Funfair,and go back to South Yorkshire or wherever to another feast.The Pat Collins fun fair outfit is based in the Midlands,and amongst the funfairs that they regularly attend in the September-October period are the famous Nottingham Goose Fair and Hull Funfair…So fairground vehicles eat up the mileage on the A1,A1-M,M1,M62,M6,M61,M25,M18,M74,M73,M90,M3,M4,M5,M20 and many other major routes - not to mention A and B Roads.
Abie Danter and his Air Ride and his other attractions,based in Moreton Valance,Gloucester,travel over the place to attend funfairs,including
the Great Dorset Steam Fair.Matthew and Douglas Taylor,of Motherwell,Scotland,trading as M & D Leisure,Stevens Fun Fairs,Staines-upon-Thames,
Manning’s Funfairs,Feltham,for example,have all been known to attend the Nottingham Goose Fair year after year.This funfair,along with the
Hull Funfair are not only prestigious,and the largest travelling funfairs in the United Kingdom,also attract some or all of the latest high-tech rides
and other attractions.Another reason for the high milages of fairground vehicles,because some of these latest ride come from afar - and also from Europe on occasion!

The Nottingham-based Mellors Group,have expanded into fixed fairground and leisure parks,but this fairground family still attends funfairs,and
are also the providers of some of the Big Ferris Wheel’s that have periodic stays in the middle of UK towns and cities.
I love this slogan and the carrier of this slogan
- My Glory Is Hauling And Lighting The Fair,QV photograph:-
Burrell DCC 3 5 NHP Showmans Steam Road Locomotive,Engine No.3926,NO 4999,Essex,March 1922,MARGARET.Henry Thurston & Sons,Northampton.MY GLORY IS HAULING AND LIGHTING THE FAIR - A great statement
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I bet this Showmans Steam Road Locomotive travelled some long distances on the feast-funfair fairground circuit when it was a working
fairground vehicle
- as did many other showmans steam road locomotives… 
Foden S21 Spaceship Sputnik,Luton Girderframe-Bodied,8x2 or 8x4 Lorry,350 DRX,Berkshire,December 1962-April 1963.Feltham,Middlesex-based Peter Manning’s Foden and his Caterpillar Ride were regular visitors to Nottingham Goose Fair
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This Foden is now preserved
I remember seeing this Foden many times at the famous Nottingham Goose Fair 
DEANB QUOTE: Lawrenson Atkinson Black Knight ■■? tanker.UNQUOTE.
It’s a:-
Atkinson L1786X Mk1-Cabbed,Tanker-bodied,Rigid 8x2 or 8x4 Lorry,852 AMR,Wiltshire,July-September 1962.Lawrenson.A good-looking and well-kept Atkinson.Mark S.Bailey:-
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Do you know the exact year or years when these evocative photographs were taken? So what time period? Please 
VALKYRIE 
Hello VALKYRIE, thanks for your in depth comments,very intresting. I will pop some more fair ground pics
on. However i cant agree with “high mileage” on that type of vehicle. Compared to normal trucks very
low as stood most of the week and not tramping day in day out. On another note the traction engines
that you see at the steam fairs is a rich mans hobby these days. I was talking to a owner at Dorset Steam
Fair last year and he was telling me the best ones were fetching £ 750,000 and upwards !

Paul was taking photos all the way through the 70s and used to like taking alot of pics in early August as
he used to like to see the new registerations. 
Bewick:
240 Gardner:
Bewick:
Did Pandoro not have a firm vehicle buying policy Chris i.e. stick mainly to one Marque or was it just a case of going out to tender for X number of units of a similar spec at any given time ? Cheers Dennis.
It was fairly firm for many years, Dennis, inherited from its constituent companies, Northern Ireland Trailers and Ferrymasters (Ireland)
At the start, it was 220 ■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■ Borderers and A Series, with 6-speed David Brown gearboxes (not a happy combination, in my opinion). There was a solitary Marathon form the NIT fleet and, strangely, a pair of Mercedes tractors on Northern Irish plates, one of which was based in Fleetwood.
They were followed by 250-engined 400 Series, RR265 & 265L ERF B series and a solitary Buffalo, followed by a batch of 10 Marathons and 20 Buffaloes, the latter to satisfy a requirement for light tractors. For the next few years it remained fairly straightforward as SA and ERF.
The Buffaloes were an utter disaster (I recall the day when 16 of the 20 were VOR, many awaiting parts), and were swiftly replaced with 32T SA 300 Series tractors, Pandoro having participated in the development. They weren’t much cop either, but the requirement went away in 1983 with the weight increase to 38T.
I left in 1982, and the fleet seemed to become rather more cosmopolitan in the years thereafter.
Many thanks for the comprehensive explanation Chris ! I seem to recall Ian Fowler telling me Scotts Of Nottingham sold P & O a number of Atky tractor units. As regards that terrible spec CU220/ DB 6:600/ Group axle I recall that I had three Borderers on the fleet with that poxy gear box, '73, '74 & '75. The later ones did a decent job from memory, one had the D85 diff and the other had the Eaton 2 speed axle. But the '73 unit was the worst Atky we ever operated, maybe double shifting it brought out it’s failings quicker but we had problems with the Group axle and we changed the DB box twice from memory and then finally the engine gave problems over heating ! It was 18 months old when I sold it ! And what “rubbed the salt in” was it was a unit I had to beg for at the time when they were in short supply, I paid “List” plus £250 notes sweetner !
Happy days !
Cheers Dennis.
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A shot of the “offender” when it was new. 
Thanks for your comments Dennis !

kenfig bill:
DEANB:
“Kenfig Bill” Heres one for your dad, Geraint ! 
Hello DEAN …super shot TWN 920N …that F86 spent most of its working life hauling motor panels from the former RTB Llandore plant in Swansea…formally known as the Cwmfelin press works …they supplied panels and bonnets to Land rover…Triumph at both Coventry and Speke as well as Ford …that shot is a little gem …RTB had a similar plant at Gorseinon …many thanks from us both …Geraint
Thanks for the comments Geraint ! 
moomooland:
DEANB:
Paul dont know if you have seen these Edward Beck pics
Yes have them both on the website thanks. Edward Beck & Son Ltd.
Here’s a better picture of ‘Katy’ 
Edward Beck & Son Ltd Scammell Constructor 6x6 heavy haulage ballast tractor Reg No HJA 148F named ‘Katy’.
Seen here on the A49 Mill Lane, adjacent to Newton-le-Willows railway station. it is hauling a 1850 H.P Diesel Electric Locomotive from the nearby Vulcan Works destined for Ghana Railways & Ports in South Africa.
Tidy looking motor Paul,thanks for the pic !

Tubbysboy:
moomooland:
0These are a couple of Seddon Atkinson press release shots featuring Ray Beardsley, transport manager for Courtaulds Northern Spinning, when eight brand new Seddon Atkinson 400 Series tractor units were introduced into the fleet in 1975.
The large depot was located next to the British Areospace factory on Greengate, Middleton, Manchester.
Dean have you noticed the huge dent in the offside front of the brand new 400 Series above?

It’s been airbrushed out for the advertisement.
Great photos on this thread,
Bit before my time, but as a Braintree boy I remember courtaulds very well. They used to have big mill in Bocking and one at halstead.
The old hospital in braintree, where I was born, was William julian courtauld hospital.
I never knew until this afternoon how big a company they were. So thanks !
Thanks for your comments “Tubbysboy” 
Carryfast:
VALKYRIE:
Do you know the exact year or years when these evocative photographs were taken? So what time period? Please 
VALKYRIE
Going by the contemporary traffic scenes often/usually mid-late 1970’s.The Atki tanker has an ■■■■■■ Mk 2 behind it for example.Like the car world it seems to have been a time of very large swings between oldest types of vehicles being used together with newest types.Which seems to fit my own experience of it being nothing unusual for late 1950’s/early 60’s types of vehicles to still be common on the roads even as late as 1980 for example.Whereas 20 - 30 year old + vehicles are now a relatively much rarer rare sight on the roads.From memory parts supply for those older types seeming to be much more plentiful then as opposed to now for example.

hayday:
240 Gardner:
The White 88 with red stripes was ex import Cardiff anyone remember them regards rowly
At Rhymney, weren’t they, with a depot in the Warrington area, and later in a white & pale yellow livery?
I had a driver at Bowker, who told me that Ex-Import was owned by his brother
240 Gardner, and Rowly. Yes Rowly I remember ex-import they were based off Newport Rd late 80s with a number of F7s.
That may well of been a Rumney Cardiff address 240, not Rhymney Heads of the Valley. The Rhymney river passes through there before hitting the sea.
Thanks for that - I do remember them having F7s - I was right about the white and pale yellow livery? I’m trying to remember where their northern depot was - somewhere around Warrington, I think.
And I should have googled before:
Ex-Import Transport (GB) Limited
Waters Edge Industrial Estate
Rumney River Bridge Road
Cardiff
South Glam
They did indeed have a large warehouse on Woolston Grange Warrington, which I think became part of the Salstream buildings (M&S clothing)
Thanks for your input “hayday” 
Boatchaser:
Ex-import Transport
They were next door to were I worked when I was with Baxter Healthcare ( 1978- 1990 ish ) 4 Kingsland Grange, we were next to the weird shaped building which stored money then us then Ex-import from what I remember when they left it was empty for some time looking on Google Maps the building has changed and now belongs to Fedex. Baxters ( Travenol Labs ) was the first company in that building then moved to Northampton and at some point DODD,S had it again on google maps its DHL , I don,t remember it being part of Salstream
Thanks for your comments “Boatchaser” 