PAUL GEE's PHOTO COLLECTION (Part 1)

[coomsey]

Interesting article about the J8 Dean, you’d have thought they’d have been onto a winner. Having said that only Mason’s n Fletcher’s had any my way on,n they never bought anything else. Most private companies stuck with Erf,Foden n Akky n Gardner ruled. Local Quarries n brickyards were more inclined towards Leyland but none of them had Guy’s. Must have been summat up with em? I never drove one but came within a gnats doo dahs of having this one of Joey Pallets,got a Foden instead thank God. Cheers Coomsey

[windrush]

B.J Waters were big Guy operators, they had both Invincibles and Big J eight leggers plus a four wheeler Big J that a friend drove for a year until he couldn’t stand the pace any longer and left to go and drive powder tankers for another local firm!

Pete.

[mantronic]

DEANB:

pete smith:
Hi Dean,
Squibb are Essex boys, I think they used to be called Squib and Davies and they demolished the first part of the Longbridge works when that shut down after the Phoenix group, they ran the scrap in to EMR Smethwick and their drivers were a good set of lads, I remember a bonneted 124-420 on the job!

Thanks for the details Pete,good stuff chap.

ArcDaz:
“DEANB”

Anyone know where Squibb Demolition are based ■■

Hi Dean Squibb Demolition now have all brand new Mercedes Benz eight wheel tippers which replaced the Dafs & Scania tippers they are a big old company with lots plant and highreach demo machines etc etc they are based in Essex we often see them about and working in London Hertfordshire city of London and many other areas too nice to see this photo of there old Daf CF Daz
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Thanks for the info Daz,good stuff chap.

windrush:
Walkers still have a garage at Cromford Dene although the trucks have long gone and they just do mot testing and repairs. I used to take my LDV there for Class V11 testing, they were an ERF agency at one time as well but I never held that against them!

Pete.

I thought you might know about them Pete,at least they are still in business even if the trucks have gone.
They are listed as an ERF dealer here.

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mizzo:
Hi Dean, Containerships are from Teesside, they used to be based on Teesdock but are now at Haverton Hill, still going strong apparently. Regards, Mizzo,

Thanks for the info Mizzo.

MANTRONIC:
“mizzo” Hi Dean, Containerships are from Teesside, they used to be based on Teesdock but are now at Haverton Hill, still going strong apparently. Regards, Mizzo,

Hey Dean and mizzo ,im sure i have seen them in Newport at the old Bellport before they moved over to Avonmouth ,MT

You have been missing MT,everything alright chap ? Hey Dean yes im fine mate have been working nites the past month ,so have not had much freetime ,. Dean enjoyed those Russell Bevan motors a few pages back they did a lot out of Bellport ,withsome of those Volvos in Bells colours ,stay safe ,thanx MT

Suedehead:
“DEANB”
G.D.S. Transport F88.

It takes all sorts . . . boom tish

Sorry you have lost me on that one Suedehead,i am obviously missing something ■■

jshepguis:
Hi Dean still a cracking site keep up the hard work. On Containerships comments are right. They did originally takeover/ operate out of the old Bell line terminal on Teesport which would also tie in with what Mantronic mentions about at Newport Bell line terminal.
As you can see on the photo of the FH their specialty routes were to Finland, Russia. They are now part of the CMA group.

Thanks for the comments “jshepguis”

jshepguis:
Thanks for the Stevens trailer supplement Dean. My uncle who drove for them gave me a photo a few years ago of an aerial shot of their yard in my home village of Great Ayton. I can date this photo around 1965 as the house being built in top left of photo the next plot along is the house that we moved into as a new build in 1966 and my parents still live there now.
Seems amazing but back then Stevens lorries would come into village from the left in the bottom of picture then back into the yard with load lengths up to 90ft and that was up to when they packed up around 1990, you struggle get a car down now with traffic parked up all over.

The big shed on the right was not Stevens for years this was Curtis Moody workshop and vehicle parking, they had a mill further down the road in the village which was later taken over by Dalgety and Spillers before being closed down. As the original supplement that you posted Stevens took this shed over as they branched into a little bit of storage and warehousing, before closing down both this site and the mill are as usual all housing now.
Here is the Scamell breakdown vehicle which never ventured far i think it only did about 20mph and no fancy electric start on it it was a rope pull start. Picture is in the village pulling tractor out of the River Leven by the the Low Green.

And finally an old shot of a Foden parked up on the road opposite the yard.

Great post “jshepguis” and photos.

Spot on chap as that clipping was from a 1966 magazine. Rope pull start on the Scammell !

That last 2 pic’s of the Foden are intresting. Look at the length of the wheelbase on that !
Surely that was a 6 wheeler rigid converted to a tractor unit ■■

[coomsey]

windrush:
B.J Waters were big Guy operators, they had both Invincibles and Big J eight leggers plus a four wheeler Big J that a friend drove for a year until he couldn’t stand the pace any longer and left to go and drive powder tankers for another local firm!

Pete.

Hypothetical Pete, would you think the boss was trying to tell you something if he took you off your Foden n plonked you on a J8 ?

[windrush]

coomsey:

windrush:
B.J Waters were big Guy operators, they had both Invincibles and Big J eight leggers plus a four wheeler Big J that a friend drove for a year until he couldn’t stand the pace any longer and left to go and drive powder tankers for another local firm!

Pete.

Hypothetical Pete, would you think the boss was trying to tell you something if he took you off your Foden n plonked you on a J8 ?

I doubt that it would bother me too much Paul, just as long as he didn’t try to foist a Volvo around me! I have worked on a few Big J’s as we were a Guy sub agency for a while but they were all tractor units or four wheel rigids and they seemed decent enough for that period (early seventies) and the drivers liked them.

Pete.

[deanb]

pv83:
They seemed to have favoured 8 wheelers in artic form on “long” jobs Dean, concrete or steel beams for example, probably because it was more easy to fit a turntable on it?

The Allelys DAF is quite something I discovered recently, apparently it’s one of the original Leyland DAF’s with hydraulic suspension that Hill’s from Pyebridge used. Allelys updated it here and there obviously, but it’s astonishing (to me at least) that it’s still earning it’s keep!

Those 8 wheelers were a bit different used like that. In Australia now they seem to be using alot of twin steer tri drive
units so 5 axles.

Is that DAF still working then ■■? That pic was taken in 2008 so it must be getting on a bit now.

windrush:
Yes Heavy Transport Limited was part of the ECC Group, the large quarry at Croft in Leicestershire was owned be ECC as well but Aggregate Industries ran it later.

Pete.

Thanks for confirming that Pete,not sure of all the details but i knew they were something to do with ECC.

Chris Webb:
Scunthorpe BRS used Leyland Octopuses for long loads with dollies.This one has a 1961 Reg plate and I remember seeing one similar on the A1 when I was in RAF.

Nice pic Oily,they seemed popular back then,and thanks for the adverts.

DISPATCHER:
Hi Dean
Here’s another one for you

Thanks “DISPATCHER” a chinese 6.

ArcDaz:
“DEANB”

Heres a bit about the GUY Big J8.

Dean these photos and articles of the Guys trucks are class brilliant work again from you chaps on this thread Daz

My grandad had a 6 wheeler Daz and it was not the quickest thing trust me,but happy memories.

Buzzer:
One for you Dean as I know you likes Sym’s of Calne, who later had a Volvo dealership IIRC, cheers Buzzer.

Nice one Buzzer,a fairly early one.

FLOURPOWER:
“DEANB”

Heres a bit about the GUY Big J8.

Hi Dean,Paul and Mark just been catching up on this great thread excellent work by all then i saw the cracking Guy tanker Pickfords tank haulage then i get a Spillers French flour tanker cracking Sunday They looked good as a powder tanker eight wheeler cheers Keith flourpower.

Nice to see you back Keith.

Heres a press photo.

Suedehead:

Thanks for the Albion pic chap.

Chris Webb:
“Suedehead” “TIDDERSON” “Chris Webb”

Scunthorpe BRS used Leyland Octopuses for long loads with dollies.This one has a 1961 Reg plate and I remember seeing one similar on the A1 when I was in RAF.
Hi Chris I think this was a 1954 model. Didn’t the 1961 have the organ mouth cabs?

I do remember seeing pictures in one of, i think Bob Tucks books of those lorries, taking steel down to Lynmouth after the flood disaster in 1953

Tidderson.You are correct,I read the plate as AFW when it is in fact KFW - October 1953. I do remember seeing one the same though. I thought it were strange for it not to be a Mouth Organ cab in 1961.Must get to Specsavers.

Thanks for the input Chris & TIDDERSON.

coomsey:
Interesting article about the J8 Dean, you’d have thought they’d have been onto a winner. Having said that only Mason’s n Fletcher’s had any my way on,n they never bought anything else. Most private companies stuck with Erf,Foden n Akky n Gardner ruled. Local Quarries n brickyards were more inclined towards Leyland but none of them had Guy’s. Must have been summat up with em? I never drove one but came within a gnats doo dahs of having this one of Joey Pallets,got a Foden instead thank God. Cheers Coomsey

Yes its a bit odd you never saw more about “Coomsey”. Although there was an awful lot of competion back
then then you look at how many manufacturers were offering an 8 wheeler. Nice pics !

windrush:
B.J Waters were big Guy operators, they had both Invincibles and Big J eight leggers plus a four wheeler Big J that a friend drove for a year until he couldn’t stand the pace any longer and left to go and drive powder tankers for another local firm!

Pete.

Yes they were Pete.

MANTRONIC:
“DEANB”

Hey Dean and mizzo ,im sure i have seen them in Newport at the old Bellport before they moved over to Avonmouth ,MT

You have been missing MT,everything alright chap ?

Hey Dean yes im fine mate have been working nites the past month ,so have not had much freetime ,. Dean enjoyed those Russell Bevan motors a few pages back they did a lot out of Bellport ,withsome of those Volvos in Bells colours ,stay safe ,thanx MT

Glad you are still enjoying the pics chap.

coomsey:
“windrush” B.J Waters were big Guy operators, they had both Invincibles and Big J eight leggers plus a four wheeler Big J that a friend drove for a year until he couldn’t stand the pace any longer and left to go and drive powder tankers for another local firm!

Pete.

Hypothetical Pete, would you think the boss was trying to tell you something if he took you off your Foden n plonked you on a J8 ?

Quality post “Coomsey”

windrush:
“coomsey”
Hypothetical Pete, would you think the boss was trying to tell you something if he took you off your Foden n plonked you on a J8 ?

I doubt that it would bother me too much Paul, just as long as he didn’t try to foist a Volvo around me! I have worked on a few Big J’s as we were a Guy sub agency for a while but they were all tractor units or four wheel rigids and they seemed decent enough for that period (early seventies) and the drivers liked them.

Pete.

If you had of got in a Volvo pete you would have been under the doctor suffering from depression after having to go back
to a Foden chap…

[windrush]

I don’t remember that Big J and trailer of Waters? The one my friend drove from new had a Leyland engine in it.

Pete.

[punchy_dan]

windrush:
I don’t remember that Big J and trailer of Waters? The one my friend drove from new had a Leyland engine in it.

Pete.

That was driven by Tommy Kirk from Tansley who passed away before Christmas.
My uncle remembers passing him on the M5 below strensham services the trailer had come off and was down the banking

[deanb]

windrush:
I don’t remember that Big J and trailer of Waters? The one my friend drove from new had a Leyland engine in it.

Pete.

Heres the only other GUY Big J i can find of Waters Pete.

Looking at the sleeper thats been added and the front of the tipping body i wonder if its a body where the
tipping ram is enclosed in the body like the pic of the Scammell Trunker or an under floor one ■■

Punchy Dan:
“windrush” I don’t remember that Big J and trailer of Waters? The one my friend drove from new had a Leyland engine in it.

Pete.
That was driven by Tommy Kirk from Tansley who passed away before Christmas.
My uncle remembers passing him on the M5 below strensham services the trailer had come off and was down the banking

Sounds nasty Dan.

[coomsey]

windrush:

coomsey:

windrush:
B.J Waters were big Guy operators, they had both Invincibles and Big J eight leggers plus a four wheeler Big J that a friend drove for a year until he couldn’t stand the pace any longer and left to go and drive powder tankers for another local firm!

Pete.

Hypothetical Pete, would you think the boss was trying to tell you something if he took you off your Foden n plonked you on a J8 ?

I doubt that it would bother me too much Paul, just as long as he didn’t try to foist a Volvo around me! I have worked on a few Big J’s as we were a Guy sub agency for a while but they were all tractor units or four wheel rigids and they seemed decent enough for that period (early seventies) and the drivers liked them.

Pete.

Thought not n me neither probably, although I had doings over an Erf n Akky ! Volvo? I had a 88 for 3 or 4 days while my old Borderer went in for plating, took me months to get over it, that was the worst thing a gaffer can do, give you a taste of what could be then back to the cold hard reality, cheers Coomsey

[windrush]

Punchy Dan:

windrush:
I don’t remember that Big J and trailer of Waters? The one my friend drove from new had a Leyland engine in it.

Pete.

That was driven by Tommy Kirk from Tansley who passed away before Christmas.
My uncle remembers passing him on the M5 below strensham services the trailer had come off and was down the banking

That name rings a bell somewhere Dan. I don’t remember seeing the truck though. Your fellow ‘classic’ ERF man Mr Prime is the chap I mentioned of course, his Big J had a Leyland engine and he was given it as his health (he is diabetic) wasn’t good with nighting out for a week at a time so they put him on an ‘easy day run’ haha! Empty from Darley to South Elmsall for 7am loading then coal up to Newcastle and coke from ‘Geordieland’ back to Gloworm at Milford near Belper but he had to be there before 3pm. Saturdays run was Bolsover to Leamington Spa. Pedal to the metal all day, he stuck it for a year and then went to drive for William Furniss where life was a lot steadier!

Pete.

[deanb]

Some odds and sods.

Click on pages twice to read.

This British Salt Foden that Mark caught twice features in a clipping from Commercial Motor and a
write up from a Foden news magazine from 1977. There is an article on page 85 about British Salt.

Trenchards Removals from Bournemouth had this Bedford draw-bar built by Vanplan in 1975.
It featured in a clipping and on the front cover of one of Vanplan’s brochures.

Mercury Airfield Tractor /Tug.

[deanb]

R.C.Curtis ERF bulker. They are small haulier based at Hamworthy,Poole.

The dreaded white strikes again,although the dash of blue may mean someone recognise’s it ■■

Anyone recognise the Volvo FM ■■

Dont think we have had a C & G Janes Ltd motor on before. Anyone know if they are based in Somerset ■■?

Anyone recognise the Foden tipper ■■

Dont think we have had a J.G.Godfrey motor on before,anyone know where they are from ■■

McBurney Volvo from Ireland.

Peter Green Scania.

Not had a CPL Petroleum motor on before,anyone know where they are from ■■

L.P.Stephens Scania bulker,looks like Truro on the door.

[deanb]

We have had some nice pics of trucks operated by Morning Foods who produced Mornflake Oats.

Its nice to see a company still having is own company colours,although i did prefer the old colour scheme to the
new orange one. Anyone know why the colour change ?

[deanb]

Click on pages twice to read.

Foden 1967.

Foden 1976.

Article 1976-77.

[deanb]

One from your way Trevor. Lloyds of Ludlow.

Elliotts MAN in Poole.

I think we have had J.T.Marsden motors on before but cant remember where they are from ■■

F & A Carlisle ERF. Imagine there was a grain mill nearby as we have had alot of bulkers on this road.

Another one of those mystery blue tippers seen around Poole & Bournemouth. It looks a bit like a Drinkwater Sabey
motor but would have been sign written.

“finbarot” Talking about Drinkwater Sabey how about this cracking pic.

Daz, One of your favourites.

Chris Webb ,did you ever go to the Texaco depot on Poole docks,where this Merc is heading back to. They used to
run Marathon’s and Roadtrains which i remember well. The Merc’s i dont remember which is odd so i wonder if they
were trailing them and never bought many ?

Cracking pic of the Bedford with crew cab. Think it was a J type Bedford,still selling them on a R reg which
surprises me as i thought they had stopped making them by then ?

Anyone recognise the DAF with all the crap in the windscreen ■■ Wonder he could see where he was going.

[punchy_dan]

Morning Dean is there a picture of the B series day cab following the Carlisle sleeper cab ERF cheers Dan .

[paul_c_gee]

Punchy Dan:
Morning Dean is there a picture of the B series day cab following the Carlisle sleeper cab ERF cheers Dan .

As if by magic!!!

[punchy_dan]

Paul C Gee:

Punchy Dan:
Morning Dean is there a picture of the B series day cab following the Carlisle sleeper cab ERF cheers Dan .

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As if by magic!!!

Thanks Dean ,Frank Carlisle carried grain .

[arcdaz]

DEANB:
One from your way Trevor. Lloyds of Ludlow.

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Elliotts MAN in Poole.

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I think we have had J.T.Marsden motors on before but cant remember where they are from ■■

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F & A Carlisle ERF. Imagine there was a grain mill nearby as we have had alot of bulkers on this road.

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Another one of those mystery blue tippers seen around Poole & Bournemouth. It looks a bit like a Drinkwater Sabey
motor but would have been sign written.

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“finbarot” Talking about Drinkwater Sabey how about this cracking pic.

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Daz, One of your favourites.

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Chris Webb ,did you ever go to the Texaco depot on Poole docks,where this Merc is heading back to. They used to
run Marathon’s and Roadtrains which i remember well. The Merc’s i dont remember which is odd so i wonder if they
were trailing them and never bought many ?

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Cracking pic of the Bedford with crew cab. Think it was a J type Bedford,still selling them on a R reg which
surprises me as i thought they had stopped making them by then ?

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Anyone recognise the DAF with all the crap in the windscreen ■■ Wonder he could see where he was going.

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Dean Many thanks for the mention of the Don Bush on six wheel Leyland Constructor tipper superb pictures again i love the site clearance job with the Drinkwater Constructor and the two poclain excavators Great old times for me Daz