Hazard a guess that this Scammel started life in Cornwall as it has a Cornish registration number and was probably operated by English China Clay ECC and could well have been prchased from one Kenny Flowers who sold commercial vehicles from a yard behind his bungalow on the road to Poole, bought a couple motors of him in me time, Buzzer
Hi Dean more on A Stevens you mentioned about the Foden and it being a cut down rigid, which will probably be correct. Stevens used a few eight leggers as tractor units,i think with aiding axle loading and reducing overall lengths, a couple of photo’s which i may have put on before, first a Scammell which by all accounts not many drivers liked using and then a LAD cabbed Octopus.
Think these were taken at South Mimms with an F88 and my uncles F86 in view.
smallcoal:
Hi dean David howells,still going the one driving that is john Williams,the one with the portacabin on is me driving that from Bridgwater to truro on a Saturday hobble,some of dais earlier trucks
Great pics John,bet you cussed those tree branches. 
“DAZ” Thanks for your comments DAZ. 
Buzzer:
Hazard a guess that this Scammel started life in Cornwall as it has a Cornish registration number and was probably operated by English China Clay ECC and could well have been prchased from one Kenny Flowers who sold commercial vehicles from a yard behind his bungalow on the road to Poole, bought a couple motors of him in me time, Buzzer
You could be right Buzzer ! I wonder if all the trucks were ordered by the main depot which i think was St Austell
which would explain the reg ?
I am sure English China Clays had a quarry up Worth Matravers way back in the 70’s,maybe someone can confirm ?
Heavy Transport is something to do with ECC although i am not sure exactly what ?
ECC were the largest producer of china clay in the World and accounted for 20% of the World’s production in the 1960’s/70’s.
Kenny Flowers certainly sold alot of motors from behind his bungalow like you say chap.
jshepguis:
Hi Dean more on A Stevens you mentioned about the Foden and it being a cut down rigid, which will probably be correct. Stevens used a few eight leggers as tractor units,i think with aiding axle loading and reducing overall lengths, a couple of photo’s which i may have put on before, first a Scammell which by all accounts not many drivers liked using and then a LAD cabbed Octopus.Think these were taken at South Mimms with an F88 and my uncles F86 in view.
Fantastic photos “jshepguis”, thanks for popping them on enjoyed looking at them old motors. 
I dont know how common it was for hauliers here to use 8 wheeler’s as tractor units,found one below and i know
they were more popular in New Zealand and Australia.
New Zealand.
Australia.
They seemed to have favoured 8 wheelers in artic form on “long” jobs Dean, concrete or steel beams for example, probably because it was more easy to fit a turntable on it?
The Allelys DAF is quite something I discovered recently, apparently it’s one of the original Leyland DAF’s with hydraulic suspension that Hill’s from Pyebridge used. Allelys updated it here and there obviously, but it’s astonishing (to me at least) that it’s still earning it’s keep!
Yes Heavy Transport Limited was part of the ECC Group, the large quarry at Croft in Leicestershire was owned be ECC as well but Aggregate Industries ran it later.
Pete.
What was the biggest selling 8 wheeler in the 1970’s ? I remember reading that the Scammell Routeman was the biggest
seller for tipper operators,and had a large following.
The other large sellers would have been Atkinson Defenders,AEC Mammoth Major’s,Foden S83’s,Leyland Octopus,
ERF B’s,Volvo F86’s,Seddon Atkinson 400’s and several other european manufacurers,Maggies,MAN,Mercedes.
When you look back there were an awful lot of manufacturers competing for the same business.
What about the GUY Big J8 ■■ Did they sell many does anyone know. I was looking through the older photos
from the 1970’s and was surprised how few photos there were of Guy Big J8’s compared to the other makes.
I wonder why that was ? I know it was an old design but then so were alot of the other’s above like the Routeman for instance.
One thing i can remember as a kid was the big air tank dial on the back wall of the cab.Looked like a clock from
memory,and can always remember when you started up in the morning the buzzer would go off as you built the
air up for a minute or two.
Heres a bit about the GUY Big J8.
In 1970 GUY showed this 350 BHP model at The Earls Court show that was designed for 56 ton draw-bar
work. I dont know how much heavier it was than the standard GUY 8 wheeler but according to “gingerfold”
none of these were ever sold. In 1970 that would have been a beast of a truck.
Spec sheets.
Rolls Royce.
■■■■■■■ engine.
Gardner engine.
Scunthorpe BRS used Leyland Octopuses for long loads with dollies.This one has a 1961 Reg plate and I remember seeing one similar on the A1 when I was in RAF.
Chris Webb:
Scunthorpe BRS used Leyland Octopuses for long loads with dollies.This one has a 1961 Reg plate and I remember seeing one similar on the A1 when I was in RAF.
Hi Chris I think this was a 1954 model. Didn’t
the 1961 have the organ mouth cabs?
DEANB:
What was the biggest selling 8 wheeler in the 1970’s ? I remember reading that the Scammell Routeman was the biggest
seller for tipper operators,and had a large following.The other large sellers would have been Atkinson Defenders,AEC Mammoth Major’s,Foden S83’s,Leyland Octopus,
ERF B’s,Volvo F86’s,Seddon Atkinson 400’s and several other european manufacurers,Maggies,MAN,Mercedes.When you look back there were an awful lot of manufacturers competing for the same business.
What about the GUY Big J8 ■■ Did they sell many does anyone know. I was looking through the older photos
from the 1970’s and was surprised how few photos there were of Guy Big J8’s compared to the other makes.I wonder why that was ? I know it was an old design but then so were alot of the other’s above like the Routeman for instance.
One thing i can remember as a kid was the big air tank dial on the back wall of the cab.Looked like a clock from
memory,and can always remember when you started up in the morning the buzzer would go off as you built the
air up for a minute or two.Heres a bit about the GUY Big J8.
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Dean these photos and articles of the Guys trucks are class brilliant work again from you chaps on this thread Daz 
TIDDERSON:
Chris Webb:
Scunthorpe BRS used Leyland Octopuses for long loads with dollies.This one has a 1961 Reg plate and I remember seeing one similar on the A1 when I was in RAF.Hi Chris I think this was a 1954 model. Didn’t
the 1961 have the organ mouth cabs?
I do remember seeing pictures in one of, i think Bob Tucks books of those lorries, taking steel down to Lynmouth after the flood disaster in 1953
One for you Dean as I know you likes Sym’s of Calne, who later had a Volvo dealership IIRC, cheers Buzzer.
DEANB:
What was the biggest selling 8 wheeler in the 1970’s ? I remember reading that the Scammell Routeman was the biggest
seller for tipper operators,and had a large following.The other large sellers would have been Atkinson Defenders,AEC Mammoth Major’s,Foden S83’s,Leyland Octopus,
ERF B’s,Volvo F86’s,Seddon Atkinson 400’s and several other european manufacurers,Maggies,MAN,Mercedes.When you look back there were an awful lot of manufacturers competing for the same business.
What about the GUY Big J8 ■■ Did they sell many does anyone know. I was looking through the older photos
from the 1970’s and was surprised how few photos there were of Guy Big J8’s compared to the other makes.I wonder why that was ? I know it was an old design but then so were alot of the other’s above like the Routeman for instance.
One thing i can remember as a kid was the big air tank dial on the back wall of the cab.Looked like a clock from
memory,and can always remember when you started up in the morning the buzzer would go off as you built the
air up for a minute or two.Heres a bit about the GUY Big J8.
2
1
0
9
8
7
6
5
4
3
Hi Dean,Paul and Mark just been catching up on this great thread excellent work by all then i saw the cracking Guy tanker Pickfords tank haulage then i get a Spillers French flour tanker cracking Sunday They looked good as a powder tanker eight wheeler cheers Keith flourpower.
Suedehead:
TIDDERSON:
Chris Webb:
Scunthorpe BRS used Leyland Octopuses for long loads with dollies.This one has a 1961 Reg plate and I remember seeing one similar on the A1 when I was in RAF.Hi Chris I think this was a 1954 model. Didn’t
the 1961 have the organ mouth cabs?I do remember seeing pictures in one of, i think Bob Tucks books of those lorries, taking steel down to Lynmouth after the flood disaster in 1953
Tidderson.You are correct,I read the plate as AFW when it is in fact KFW - October 1953. I do remember seeing one the same though. I thought it were strange for it not to be a Mouth Organ cab in 1961.Must get to Specsavers. 
Chris Webb:
Suedehead:
TIDDERSON:
Chris Webb:
Scunthorpe BRS used Leyland Octopuses for long loads with dollies.This one has a 1961 Reg plate and I remember seeing one similar on the A1 when I was in RAF.Hi Chris I think this was a 1954 model. Didn’t
the 1961 have the organ mouth cabs?I do remember seeing pictures in one of, i think Bob Tucks books of those lorries, taking steel down to Lynmouth after the flood disaster in 1953
Tidderson.You are correct,I read the plate as AFW when it is in fact KFW - October 1953. I do remember seeing one the same though. I thought it were strange for it not to be a Mouth Organ cab in 1961.Must get to Specsavers.
NMP This is the Octopus being towed up the hill from Lynmouth
