PAUL GEE's PHOTO COLLECTION (Part 1)

Ray Smyth:
The Ainscough ERF has an “A” type logo on the cab door, I think that Ainscough became part of Allied Mills.
Gingerfold and Flourpower will be better informed than me regarding flour millers. Ray Smyth.

H & R Ainscough were acquired by Associated British Foods in 1961, and became part of Allied Mills. The wagon in the picture was being driven at the time by Dave Walsh, who inherited it from it’s first driver Bob Bell. The second man in the passenger seat is Mike Riley. Mike later went on to become a driver at Ainscough’s. KBG55P was unique in the Ainscough’s fleet of B Series ERFs as it was the only one with the 12 litre ■■■■■■■ 220 engine. All the other B Series tractor units were either Gardner 240s or ■■■■■■■ 250s. There was one eight-wheel B Series tanker, PLV150T, which was powered by a Gardner 180 and thanks to the ‘awkward’ diff setup was restricted to a top speed of 48mph - it was driven by my Dad’s cousin, Reg Ashton. The motif on the door was the standard Allied Mills twisted ears of wheat in a roundel.

Oh, and if you’re from Burscough, it’s pronounced ‘Boska’, while Ainscough’s is pronounced ‘Ainskers’.

I think Bass had some day cabbed F10’s as well Dean, I know one of the fuel companies ran some as well, blue with yellow on the cabs, can’t for the life of e remember the company! C.P.L Petroleum? Cheer’s Pete
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re the debate on F10/12 day cabs it’s quite simple I had one on Demo from Hallam commercials for three months,the first one they sent was a normal sleeper cab but when coupled to our forty foot trailers it was found to be overlength and the fleet engineer sent it back and they sent a Day cab to comply with current legislation, British Steel Rotherham ran three F12/400 day cab ballast tractors,plenty pics but this site won’t allow me to post em from my iPad (file to large) regards Alan
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Thats very interesting Alan, generally the day cab units were shorter wheel base than the sleeper models ( from memory 3m & 3.4m ) and as the 5th wheel position would be the same on both I would think (only a guess) that your trailers had a very shallow pin lengh. Harvey

HRS:
I think Bass had some day cabbed F10’s as well Dean, I know one of the fuel companies ran some as well, blue with yellow on the cabs, can’t for the life of e remember the company! C.P.L Petroleum? Cheer’s Pete

re the debate on F10/12 day cabs it’s quite simple I had one on Demo from Hallam commercials for three months,the first one they sent was a normal sleeper cab but when coupled to our forty foot trailers it was found to be overlength and the fleet engineer sent it back and they sent a Day cab to comply with current legislation, British Steel Rotherham ran three F12/400 day cab ballast tractors,plenty pics but this site won’t allow me to post em from my iPad (file to large) regards Alan
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Thats very interesting Alan, generally the day cab units were shorter wheel base than the sleeper models ( from memory 3m & 3.4m ) and as the 5th wheel position would be the same on both I would think (only a guess) that your trailers had a very shallow pin lengh. Harvey
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Sainsburys at Basingstoke also had some F10 day cabbed tractor units

Hi dean,jakey sent me a book he was having a clear out here’s some pics from it ,thanks Steve arrived today your a gentleman mate

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Caswell pic

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Hi John , I thought you were like it mate ,glad your happy ,I love the firm with the roadtrains .

robthedog:

HRS:
I think Bass had some day cabbed F10’s as well Dean, I know one of the fuel companies ran some as well, blue with yellow on the cabs, can’t for the life of e remember the company! C.P.L Petroleum? Cheer’s Pete

re the debate on F10/12 day cabs it’s quite simple I had one on Demo from Hallam commercials for three months,the first one they sent was a normal sleeper cab but when coupled to our forty foot trailers it was found to be overlength and the fleet engineer sent it back and they sent a Day cab to comply with current legislation, British Steel Rotherham ran three F12/400 day cab ballast tractors,plenty pics but this site won’t allow me to post em from my iPad (file to large) regards Alan

Thats very interesting Alan, generally the day cab units were shorter wheel base than the sleeper models ( from memory 3m & 3.4m ) and as the 5th wheel position would be the same on both I would think (only a guess) that your trailers had a very shallow pin lengh. Harvey
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Sainsburys at Basingstoke also had some F10 day cabbed tractor units
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Did Bulmer’s not have some as well IIRC, Buzzer

JAKEY:
Thats a nice old Volvo brs wagon ,thanks Dean , I wonder what depot had them ?

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Chris Webb:
Any idea who this belongs to Chris ■■?

Looks very familiar to me but just can’t remember.Looks like it’s carrying non - haz product.

Poplar Volvo. Poplar rings a bell was there a tie up with Comart ■■?

Poplar Motor Transport were from Lymm Cheshire,did a lot of container work.There is a truckstop on their old café site now.

Think it says Mancuman Transport on the Foden ■■

It’s Mancunian Transport from Manchester Dean.

Thanks for the info on Poplar and the correct name ! :smiley:

robthedog:

DEANB:
W.A.Wallington & Sons Guy. I like the company colour scheme.

So do I but not the motors

Croome Volvo. These boys used to get about a bit ,Russia etc. Havent seen one for a few years are they still going ■■

Croome are still going youll be very lucky to see an English registered truck though, and all driven by EE’s now.

Thanks for the info about Croome’s Rob, i know what you mean about the Guy used to go in my grandads and it was not the quickest ! :laughing: :laughing:

ramone:

whiplash:
Dean,
McGregor Cory was part of,or very closely aligned to Transflash McGregor(Bradford area H.O. if I recall).The name on the door, Ocealn,was part of the Ocean group.
Strange that a freight forwarder had a tipper,but there ya go.
The whole lot was merged eventually into MSAS,which,once again if I recall, stood for "McGregor Sea and Air Services.
Cassin Road Transport in Ireland was also bought out.
As happened with most freight forwarders,the world getting smaller etc.,P & O Nedloyd,Excel Logistics, and eventually DHL were merged.
Think that`s very roughly the story there! :smiley:

McGregor Cory owned Henry Longs at Bradford for a time now Transflash became part of Longs but i’m not sure if it was Longs or McGregor Cory who took them over .McGragor Cory were part of the Ocean group who eventually sold Longs to Albert Fisher

Thanks for the info “ramone” :wink:

MANTRONIC:

DEANB:
I reckon there are a few Leyland fans on here. Did a bit about the Roadtrain on page 200.

hey Dean ,thanx for the Blueline T45,magic MT .

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gingerfold:

DEANB:
Out of intrest is the big Rank Hovis mill on Southampton docks still going ? Used to go there regular as a kid.

Dean, the Rank Hovis flour mill at Southampton closed at the end of December 2018, with Rank Hovis walking away from the remaining open market business it had. They have kept their Wellingborough mill to supply their own Hovis bakeries with flour, and they sold their Trafford Park and Selby mills to Whitworth’s.

Thanks for the info Graham,thats a shame that Rank Hovis has shut spent many happy hours there as a kid. :frowning:

scania81:

JAKEY:
Thats a nice old Volvo brs wagon ,thanks Dean , I wonder what depot had them ?

A Runcorn based motor Jakey.
Eastern had them in Abundance
Burton,Corby etc and there were a few up scotch.
2 were in Bridgend ex contracts.
Dai

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kevmorrow:
Hi DEAN
Could be Alan Sevilles or Savilles Tanker who were based at Leigh Lancs. Used to see their drivers in the yard when I worked at Kraft Humko Westinghouse road Trafford Park carting in crude edible oils from Humko Terminal Mode Wheel Road Weaste Salford. PURA foods Blackwall. They had done a bit of work out of Peeless Refining Dunning Bridge Road Bootle.
They also did a bit of tanker repair and maintenance.
Yet again this was 40 years ago and often wrong?
KEV

Thanks for the possible name Kev. :smiley:

marky:
"Ray Smyth"The Ainscough ERF has an “A” type logo on the cab door, I think that Ainscough became part of Allied Mills.
Gingerfold and Flourpower will be better informed than me regarding flour millers. Ray Smyth.

H & R Ainscough were acquired by Associated British Foods in 1961, and became part of Allied Mills. The wagon in the picture was being driven at the time by Dave Walsh, who inherited it from it’s first driver Bob Bell. The second man in the passenger seat is Mike Riley. Mike later went on to become a driver at Ainscough’s. KBG55P was unique in the Ainscough’s fleet of B Series ERFs as it was the only one with the 12 litre ■■■■■■■ 220 engine. All the other B Series tractor units were either Gardner 240s or ■■■■■■■ 250s. There was one eight-wheel B Series tanker, PLV150T, which was powered by a Gardner 180 and thanks to the ‘awkward’ diff setup was restricted to a top speed of 48mph - it was driven by my Dad’s cousin, Reg Ashton. The motif on the door was the standard Allied Mills twisted ears of wheat in a roundel.

Oh, and if you’re from Burscough, it’s pronounced ‘Boska’, while Ainscough’s is pronounced ‘Ainskers’.

Thanks for the info “marky” :wink:

Thanks for all the comments about the F10 non sleepers from HRS,robthedog and Buzzer. :wink: Yes Bulmers did run non sleepers Buzzer ! :smiley:

smallcoal:
Hi dean,jakey sent me a book he was having a clear out here’s some pics from it ,thanks Steve arrived today your a gentleman mate

Great pics John ,thanks for posting ! :smiley: :wink: From what you can see the Mammoth Major seems to have little damage considering how far it has
dropped onto the railway line !

JAKEY:
Hi John , I thought you were like it mate ,glad your happy ,I love the firm with the roadtrains .

:wink:

A couple more

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Another from the book a very bad one

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sm240:
hello dean
you have photos of foreign trucks coming from:
-Italy
-France
-Spain
etc?
Thank you Dean !!!
bye
MIMMO

MIMMO, so does “sm240” stand for the model Saviem 240 ■■? :unamused:

Saviems.

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Saviem SM240 brochure.

Click on pages twice to read.

Adverts.

Click on pages twice to read.

Building Nice airport in 1978.

Saviem article 1977.

Saviem roadtest from 1975.

Click on pages twice to read.

Some trucks at the Great Dorset Steam Fair.

ERF

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Foden.

Atkinson.

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Atkinson.

Foden.

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Atkinson.

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ERF

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Thames Trader.

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Foden.

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Foden.

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Anyone recognise the Ford Transcon ■■?

Timsbury Transport DAF.

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DAF .Unusual looking motor,i assume its some sort of drain cleaning machine ■■

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Foden, think its British Telecom ■■?

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Tidy ERF livestock truck.We have had some of this company on here before but i cant remember the name ■■?

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Anyone recognise the Volvo ■■? Bit of an odd looking trailer,why are there gaps above the sides on the trailer ■■?

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Silk Cut Volvo F88.

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Sun Valley F10.

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Hansons ERF

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K.R.Joyce Scania.

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I had not seen the Truck magazine French roadtest before, so thanks for posting it, Deanb. :slight_smile:

The text of it reveals the lack of technical nous of the author. He says the Berliet has less torque at top revs. Both vehicles have 242bhp. The Berliet has its peak power at 1800rpm, against Saviem’s 2200. If those speeds are “top revs”, then the Berliet has 11% more torque there. Later on, it says the UK Berliet’s cab was not as plush as the French TR320s they observed in the lorry park, but there is no detail to support that.

DEANB:
Anyone recognise the Ford Transcon ■■?

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Timsbury Transport DAF.

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DAF .Unusual looking motor,i assume its some sort of drain cleaning machine ■■

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Foden, think its British Telecom ■■?

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Tidy ERF livestock truck.We have had some of this company on here before but i cant remember the name ■■?

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Anyone recognise the Volvo ■■? Bit of an odd looking trailer,why are there gaps above the sides on the trailer ■■?

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Silk Cut Volvo F88.

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Hi Dean ,the ERF ,livestock ,is R H Goulding of Newent ,one for our ROF ! regards Keith
Sun Valley F10.

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Hansons ERF

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Hi Dean.I’m sure the ERF is one of R H Goulding’s from Newent,Glos.

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The Volvo F7 with the FUNNY LOOKING TRAILER is J R Young of Leadgate nr Consett Co Durham. They morphed into J S Y & then disappeared. What the trailer was all about
beats me. Cheers pushrod47