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anorak:
I had not seen the Truck magazine French roadtest before, so thanks for posting it, Deanb.
The text of it reveals the lack of technical nous of the author. He says the Berliet has less torque at top revs. Both vehicles have 242bhp. The Berliet has its peak power at 1800rpm, against Saviem’s 2200. If those speeds are “top revs”, then the Berliet has 11% more torque there.
He was referring to the fact that the Berliet,like the Saviem,also ( but pointlessly ) ran up to 2,200 rpm which is logically the engine speed which he meant by ‘top revs’.Which probably says more about the manufacturer in not governing it to 1,900 rpm.
Hi John. IIRC this load was out of Natural Gas Tubes Tredegar. I had loaded and chained a 40ft trailer the night before and my cousin took it to the midlands the following morning.
He past this accident, which if it is the one I am thinking of happened on the old Abergavenny to Raglan road. It was about 40 years ago as I was19/20 waiting to get my class 1.
The winds up there in Tafarnaubach would have you freezing in no time at all, not forgetting the rain as well. I would use our F86 to bring the load down the estate, slowly and back it into Powerfab’s building. Plenty of light, no wind or rain, get it chained and sometimes sheeted ready for the morning. Nigel would switch trailers early next morning and I’d reload that one. You really had to stop and tighten those chains religiously.
HRS:
I think Bass had some day cabbed F10’s as well Dean, I know one of the fuel companies ran some as well, blue with yellow on the cabs, can’t for the life of e remember the company! C.P.L Petroleum? Cheer’s Pete
re the debate on F10/12 day cabs it’s quite simple I had one on Demo from Hallam commercials for three months,the first one they sent was a normal sleeper cab but when coupled to our forty foot trailers it was found to be overlength and the fleet engineer sent it back and they sent a Day cab to comply with current legislation, British Steel Rotherham ran three F12/400 day cab ballast tractors,plenty pics but this site won’t allow me to post em from my iPad (file to large) regards Alan
Thats very interesting Alan, generally the day cab units were shorter wheel base than the sleeper models ( from memory 3m & 3.4m ) and as the 5th wheel position would be the same on both I would think (only a guess) that your trailers had a very shallow pin lengh. Harvey
Sainsburys at Basingstoke also had some F10 day cabbed tractor units
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Did Bulmer’s not have some as well IIRC, Buzzer
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Yes, Bulmers had a fleet of day cabbed F10s. One of my pals, Gerry Taylor bought one for a bulk tipper job and was well pleased with it. Not so pleased as he became with his next motor- an F12 from North Wales with a sleeper cab! BTW, I am old enough to remember Bulmers having a fleet of Fodens with 150 Gardners.
pete smith:
I think Bass had some day cabbed F10’s as well Dean, I know one of the fuel companies ran some as well, blue with yellow on the cabs, can’t for the life of e remember the company! C.P.L Petroleum? Cheer’s Pete
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anorak:
I had not seen the Truck magazine French roadtest before, so thanks for posting it, Deanb.
The text of it reveals the lack of technical nous of the author. He says the Berliet has less torque at top revs. Both vehicles have 242bhp. The Berliet has its peak power at 1800rpm, against Saviem’s 2200. If those speeds are “top revs”, then the Berliet has 11% more torque there. Later on, it says the UK Berliet’s cab was not as plush as the French TR320s they observed in the lorry park, but there is no detail to support that.
pushrod47:
The Volvo F7 with the FUNNY LOOKING TRAILER is J R Young of Leadgate nr Consett Co Durham. They morphed into J S Y & then disappeared. What the trailer was all about beats me. Cheers pushrod47
Thanks for the info “pushrod47” on the F7. Glad it was not only me that thought it was a bit of an odd trailer !
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anorak:
I had not seen the Truck magazine French roadtest before, so thanks for posting it, Deanb.
The text of it reveals the lack of technical nous of the author. He says the Berliet has less torque at top revs. Both vehicles have 242bhp. The Berliet has its peak power at 1800rpm, against Saviem’s 2200. If those speeds are “top revs”, then the Berliet has 11% more torque there.
He was referring to the fact that the Berliet,like the Saviem,also ( but pointlessly ) ran up to 2,200 rpm which is logically the engine speed which he meant by ‘top revs’.Which probably says more about the manufacturer in not governing it to 1,900 rpm.
Hi John. IIRC this load was out of Natural Gas Tubes Tredegar. I had loaded and chained a 40ft trailer the night before and my cousin took it to the midlands the following morning.
He past this accident, which if it is the one I am thinking of happened on the old Abergavenny to Raglan road. It was about 40 years ago as I was19/20 waiting to get my class 1.
The winds up there in Tafarnaubach would have you freezing in no time at all, not forgetting the rain as well. I would use our F86 to bring the load down the estate, slowly and back it into Powerfab’s building. Plenty of light, no wind or rain, get it chained and sometimes sheeted ready for the morning. Nigel would switch trailers early next morning and I’d reload that one. You really had to stop and tighten those chains religiously.
Thanks for your input “Paul John”
240 Gardner:
"DEANB"Some trucks at the Great Dorset Steam Fair.
Atkinson.
Not sure of its history, or how it came to have the Riding sleeper conversion, but it’s been in preservation for many years:
What I presume was a sister vehicle, TTJ 418L, also had a Riding sleeper, and worked at one time on the fleet of Pheasey’s of Bakewell
Thanks for the pic and comments Chris.
moomooland:
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pete smith:
I think Bass had some day cabbed F10’s as well Dean, I know one of the fuel companies ran some as well, blue with yellow on the cabs, can’t for the life of e remember the company! C.P.L Petroleum? Cheer’s Pete
Retired Old ■■■■:
“Buzzer”
Did Bulmer’s not have some as well IIRC, Buzzer
Yes, Bulmers had a fleet of day cabbed F10s. One of my pals, Gerry Taylor bought one for a bulk tipper job and was well pleased with it. Not so pleased as he became with his next motor- an F12 from North Wales with a sleeper cab! BTW, I am old enough to remember Bulmers having a fleet of Fodens with 150 Gardners.
Heres a few more of Bulmers finest. They ran their Volvos hard and often treble shifted.
I have posted 2 articles about Bulmers on pages 122 and 191 for anyone intrested.
Hi John. IIRC this load was out of Natural Gas Tubes Tredegar. I had loaded and chained a 40ft trailer the night before and my cousin took it to the midlands the following morning.
He past this accident, which if it is the one I am thinking of happened on the old Abergavenny to Raglan road. It was about 40 years ago as I was19/20 waiting to get my class 1.
The winds up there in Tafarnaubach would have you freezing in no time at all, not forgetting the rain as well. I would use our F86 to bring the load down the estate, slowly and back it into Powerfab’s building. Plenty of light, no wind or rain, get it chained and sometimes sheeted ready for the morning. Nigel would switch trailers early next morning and I’d reload that one. You really had to stop and tighten those chains religiously.
Hi Paul John ,ngt I used to pull out with tdw hated winter up there cold as hell good job for night heaters to warm you up how’s things with you hope all ok
Hiya Dean! I did a fair bit of part-time work for LASH of Norton, near Sittingbourne, back in the '80s. That’s not me at the wheel of Paul’s pic though! I drove this wagon quite a lot. It was a Merc NG 1626 with the ZF 12-sp splitter 'box. Here are some more pics of it I took at the time when I was driving it.
That last pic shows an old 10m (33’) Belgian coiler. We used to tip those in the Midlands and then ship them back empty on the back of a flat bed trailer. Happy days!
Hiya Dean! I did a fair bit of part-time work for LASH of Norton, near Sittingbourne, back in the '80s. That’s not me at the wheel of Paul’s pic though! I drove this wagon quite a lot. It was a Merc NG 1626 with the ZF 12-sp splitter 'box. Here are some more pics of it I took at the time when I was driving it.
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That last pic shows an old 10m (33’) Belgian coiler. We used to tip those in the Midlands and then ship them back empty on the back of a flat bed trailer. Happy days!
Robert
I bet they had to pick and choose to find a farmyard capable of doing a third axle conversion of that standard. It looks like a section of trailer chassis ■■■■ welded to the back of the tractor.
Mair Volvo F88. Anyone know where they were based ■■?
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Corona Seddon Atkinson.
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LASH Mercedes. Anyone know where they were based ■■?
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ARH Atkinson. Anyone know what the initials stand for ■■?
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Rowleys Potatoes Foden. Anyone know anything about them ■■?
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As an aside.
The day cab Brains Scania is on Civic Center Rd, Southampton. Looks like the ACTS liveried one is on same stretch of road too. The photographer has the Central Station behind them. There was loads of rubber on that short sharp slope, with a set of lights at the bottom. The Abbey FIAT transporter is on West Quay Rd. The old town walls are in the background. Thats reclaimed land, the town walls would once have had the mud of the tidal River Test along their base.
Before my time… discoversouthampton.co.uk/up … iginal.pdf
Bottom of page 5 is West Quay in 1910.
And a link to a video about the reclamation starting in 1927. youtube.com/watch?v=Pk4qo8KCrgQ
Bit off track, but it may be interesting to some out there.
Hiya Dean! I did a fair bit of part-time work for LASH of Norton, near Sittingbourne, back in the '80s. That’s not me at the wheel of Paul’s pic though! I drove this wagon quite a lot. It was a Merc NG 1626 with the ZF 12-sp splitter 'box. Here are some more pics of it I took at the time when I was driving it.
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That last pic shows an old 10m (33’) Belgian coiler. We used to tip those in the Midlands and then ship them back empty on the back of a flat bed trailer. Happy days!
Robert
Thanks for the pics Robert.
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anorak:
I bet they had to pick and choose to find a farmyard capable of doing a third axle conversion of that standard. It looks like a section of trailer chassis ■■■■ welded to the back of the tractor.
Have to agree “anorak” not the best of conversions !
Franglais:
ACTS Scania.
Abbey Hill FIAT.
Brain Haulage Scania.
As an aside.
The day cab Brains Scania is on Civic Center Rd, Southampton. Looks like the ACTS liveried one is on same stretch of road too. The photographer has the Central Station behind them. There was loads of rubber on that short sharp slope, with a set of lights at the bottom. The Abbey FIAT transporter is on West Quay Rd. The old town walls are in the background. Thats reclaimed land, the town walls would once have had the mud of the tidal River Test along their base.
Before my time… discoversouthampton.co.uk/up … iginal.pdf
Bottom of page 5 is West Quay in 1910.
And a link to a video about the reclamation starting in 1927. youtube.com/watch?v=Pk4qo8KCrgQ
Bit off track, but it may be interesting to some out there.
Thanks for the comments “Franglais”,that was a intresting video about the docks.
