I think the N10 EAB114S possibly is the one my uncle bought 2nd hand ,it was new to a fuel firm from tenbury wells who didn’t keep it long before selling it to Holland’s cheese nr Nantwich who made it a sleeper cab ,my uncle was the 3rd owner ,Steve Poole a scrap merchant from stoke ran it after and then Aden Hare from fole ,it’s now in preservation.
DEANB:
Some Welsh motors.Owens Renault.
9
G.Jones Scania.
8
Chilton bulk transport Volvo.
7
P.M.Rees Volvo.
6
S.R.Andrews Scania
5
Hicks Volvo.
4
Cant make the name out on this one ■■
3
Alan Price Scania.
2
A.E.Gough & Sons Volvo.
1
Cardiff Container Link DAF
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The Scania Topliner R 490, reg CE67 RAM belongs to Llantilio Transport…
Buzzer:
Dean I would put a five pond bet that the Merc is one of Morrie Macness’s, he ran quite a few Mercs on traction back in the day out of Southampton and those colours and the way it is painted makes me believe it to be one of his, there were a lot of OD’s and men with a few motors doing such work back then and it was common not to have a name on as most were running on someone else’s permits buts that’s how it was back then, Buzzer
Reckon thats a good shout Buzzer. That building looks like its still there, Canute Rd at corner of Saint Lawrence Street. That puts it in the right place doesn`t it?
Dean this is not a definitive Atkinson answer Chris can give you a more concise answer i think he has told you before 
The first photo is a Silver Knight model these ran from roughly 1969-1972 G-K reg plate.
Second photo is a these ran from 1972 to end of production the quick visual difference is the raised headboard and interior trim had a pepperpot holed type trim.
Borderer
You can see the interior trim on this third picture, but is this a Silver Knight or a Borderer because as the cabs were basically the same they could be swapped updated. Sandersons who my father drove for had a late Silver Knight model YVN 321K which was involved in an acccident about a year into service on the A38 one night and was recabbed with a later Borderer cab. Hope this helps again and Chris can correct any errors on my part
kmills:
Isaac Caswell also had an F88 cabbed Atkinson Borderer - useless info I know…Cheers, Keith
Why would they do that? 
I bet that thing would be a pleasure to drive. 
Dean this is me as an old friend of ours on 1of his breaks from Ralph , we were in Campogalliano , not good the next day.R.I.P Alex
jshepguis:
Dean this is not a definitive Atkinson answer Chris can give you a more concise answer i think he has told you beforeSecond photo is a these ran from 1972 to end of production the quick visual difference is the raised headboard and interior trim had a pepperpot holed type trim.
Borderer (sorry, not quite… see below!)You can see the interior trim on this third picture, but is this a Silver Knight or a Borderer because as the cabs were basically the same they could be swapped updated. Sandersons who my father drove for had a late Silver Knight model YVN 321K which was involved in an acccident about a year into service on the A38 one night and was recabbed with a later Borderer cab. Hope this helps again and Chris can correct any errors on my part
OK, since you asked…
‘Silver Knight’ was the term used by Atkinson for all tractor units from 1964 to late 1970, including big bonneted tractors, View-Lines, etc. The generic name was then supplemented by a code to identify what it was in more detail.
Examples would be:
T3046X Tractor, 30T, 4 wheels, 6 cylinder, 6LX engine
BT7566C Bonneted Tractor, 75T, 6 wheels, 6 cylinder, ■■■■■■■ engine (power rating not included in those days)
T3266RR Tractor, 32T, 6 wheels (6x4), 6 cylinder, Rolls-Royce engine
TRS3266XB Tractor Rear Steer, 32T, 6 wheels (6x2), 6 cylinder, 6LXB engine
The new Mk.2 cab was announced at the 1967 Scottish Motor Show at Kelvin Hall, and went into production late the following year. Tractors were still Silver Knights, but designated as Mk.2.
A complete new range was announced at the 1970 Commercial Motor Show at Earls Court: the cabs carried over virtually unchanged, but chassis frames for the Borderer (4x2 tractor) and Leader (6x2 tractor) were changed substantially. Therefore, although a Borderer looks superficially similar to a Mk.2 4x2 tractor, the underpinnings have changed. The frame depth is different, as are the wheelbase and the gross weight rating. Fuller gearboxes became a standard list item for the first time too.
Visual clues for the anorak are, mirror arms projected forward of the A-post instead of a simple short tube on the door, a square-ish section 62 gallon fuel tank instead of a round 54 gallon tank, new badging and the deletion of the knight’s head (although many people fitted them in service) and, of course, the wheelbase. Just to confuse everyone though, a short wheelbase of 9’ 6” was still available as an option on the Borderer, against the standard 10’8”.
Not to mention, of course, the age: an H-plate Mk.2 tractor (August 1969-July 1970) simply cannot be a Borderer, because they weren’t even announced until October 1970.
The cab was revised slightly in 1972, with a larger headboard and improved sound deadening inside, together with new perforated plastic interior panels replacing the fibreglass panels.
‘Leader’ was a new 38T tractor, designed for the much-anticipated weight increases which never happened. It was altogether sturdier than the outgoing Mk.2 Rear Steer, designed principally to meet the legislation requiring 5 axles for most 32 tonners (based on outer axle spread). Leader had a stronger frame, different wheelbases and running gear, and different suspension on the second steer axle.
‘Venturer’ was a 6x4 tractor, again aimed at the naively-expected 44T operation, but also available to operate at higher weights, eventually up to 75T. Of course, there were all sorts of special order variations on this, as with most Atkinsons.
The detailed variant descriptions continued in the same format, so a Borderer could be, for example, T3446C, 34T gross with a ■■■■■■■■ Later on, suffixes were added such as T3446C(G) to denote a ‘Group’ (i.e. Seddon) drive axle, or power ratings for ■■■■■■■ and RR engines so you could have, say, T3446C250 for a Borderer with a 250 ■■■■■■■■ The most powerful option offered on the Borderer was the turbocharged Rolls 280, although only a handful were ever built.
Punchy Dan:
I think the N10 EAB114S possibly is the one my uncle bought 2nd hand ,it was new to a fuel firm from tenbury wells who didn’t keep it long before selling it to Holland’s cheese nr Nantwich who made it a sleeper cab ,my uncle was the 3rd owner ,Steve Poole a scrap merchant from stoke ran it after and then Aden Hare from fole ,it’s now in preservation.
I think Smith and Robinson from Leeds had one i’m sure Chris Webb will remember it
I think there were 6 at the time
Punchy Dan:
I think there were 6 at the time
I didn’t realise they had so many.
I was on my way to Chapel on le Frith last summer and notice some old bonnetted motors parked in a yard i only got a quick look but they looked like either Volvo or Scania
Punchy Dan:
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That’s Me in the bottom picture
Long before you wore the knees out of your jeans, then?!?! 
ramone:
Punchy Dan:
I think the N10 EAB114S possibly is the one my uncle bought 2nd hand ,it was new to a fuel firm from tenbury wells who didn’t keep it long before selling it to Holland’s cheese nr Nantwich who made it a sleeper cab ,my uncle was the 3rd owner ,Steve Poole a scrap merchant from stoke ran it after and then Aden Hare from fole ,it’s now in preservation.I think Smith and Robinson from Leeds had one i’m sure Chris Webb will remember it
Aye,I saw it once or twice Ramone.this isn’t my photo,not many of that N10 around.
Punchy Dan:
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That’s Me in the bottom picture
A young looking Dan nice trucks there mate
Chris Webb:
ramone:
Punchy Dan:
I think the N10 EAB114S possibly is the one my uncle bought 2nd hand ,it was new to a fuel firm from tenbury wells who didn’t keep it long before selling it to Holland’s cheese nr Nantwich who made it a sleeper cab ,my uncle was the 3rd owner ,Steve Poole a scrap merchant from stoke ran it after and then Aden Hare from fole ,it’s now in preservation.I think Smith and Robinson from Leeds had one i’m sure Chris Webb will remember it
Aye,I saw it once or twice Ramone.this isn’t my photo,not many of that N10 around.
I think Crossroads from Birstal may have ended up with this one for a while, but I’m not sure what happened to it after that
smallcoal:
Hi Dean silver roadways were part of Tate and lyles in London ,also silver roadways were based in gorseinon
Nice pics John, heres another one chap.
Punchy Dan:
I think the N10 EAB114S possibly is the one my uncle bought 2nd hand ,it was new to a fuel firm from tenbury wells who didn’t keep it long before selling it to Holland’s cheese nr Nantwich who made it a sleeper cab ,my uncle was the 3rd owner ,Steve Poole a scrap merchant from stoke ran it after and then Aden Hare from fole ,it’s now in preservation.
Thanks for your input Dan.
Me.Paul.101:
Cant make the name out on this one ■■The Scania Topliner R 490, reg CE67 RAM belongs to Llantilio Transport…
Thanks for the name Paul.
Franglais:
“Buzzer” Dean I would put a five pond bet that the Merc is one of Morrie Macness’s, he ran quite a few Mercs on traction back in the day out of Southampton and those colours and the way it is painted makes me believe it to be one of his, there were a lot of OD’s and men with a few motors doing such work back then and it was common not to have a name on as most were running on someone else’s permits buts that’s how it was back then, BuzzerReckon that
s a good shout Buzzer. That building looks like its still there, Canute Rd at corner of Saint Lawrence Street. That puts it in the right place doesn`t it?
Thanks for the info Buzzer and Franglais.
robroy:
kmills:
Isaac Caswell also had an F88 cabbed Atkinson Borderer - useless info I know…Cheers, Keith
Why would they do that?
I bet that thing would be a pleasure to drive.
Cliff luxton:
Dean this is me as an old friend of ours on 1of his breaks from Ralph , we were in Campogalliano , not good the next day.R.I.P Alex
Yeah nice pic Cliff, he was a character ! RIP.
240 Gardner:
"jshepguis"Dean this is not a definitive Atkinson answer Chris can give you a more concise answer i think he has told you beforeSecond photo is a these ran from 1972 to end of production the quick visual difference is the raised headboard and interior trim had a pepperpot holed type trim.
Borderer (sorry, not quite… see below!)You can see the interior trim on this third picture, but is this a Silver Knight or a Borderer because as the cabs were basically the same they could be swapped updated. Sandersons who my father drove for had a late Silver Knight model YVN 321K which was involved in an acccident about a year into service on the A38 one night and was recabbed with a later Borderer cab. Hope this helps again and Chris can correct any errors on my part
OK, since you asked…
‘Silver Knight’ was the term used by Atkinson for all tractor units from 1964 to late 1970, including big bonneted tractors, View-Lines, etc. The generic name was then supplemented by a code to identify what it was in more detail.
Examples would be:
T3046X Tractor, 30T, 4 wheels, 6 cylinder, 6LX engine
BT7566C Bonneted Tractor, 75T, 6 wheels, 6 cylinder, ■■■■■■■ engine (power rating not included in those days)
T3266RR Tractor, 32T, 6 wheels (6x4), 6 cylinder, Rolls-Royce engine
TRS3266XB Tractor Rear Steer, 32T, 6 wheels (6x2), 6 cylinder, 6LXB engine
The new Mk.2 cab was announced at the 1967 Scottish Motor Show at Kelvin Hall, and went into production late the following year. Tractors were still Silver Knights, but designated as Mk.2.
A complete new range was announced at the 1970 Commercial Motor Show at Earls Court: the cabs carried over virtually unchanged, but chassis frames for the Borderer (4x2 tractor) and Leader (6x2 tractor) were changed substantially. Therefore, although a Borderer looks superficially similar to a Mk.2 4x2 tractor, the underpinnings have changed. The frame depth is different, as are the wheelbase and the gross weight rating. Fuller gearboxes became a standard list item for the first time too.
Visual clues for the anorak are, mirror arms projected forward of the A-post instead of a simple short tube on the door, a square-ish section 62 gallon fuel tank instead of a round 54 gallon tank, new badging and the deletion of the knight’s head (although many people fitted them in service) and, of course, the wheelbase. Just to confuse everyone though, a short wheelbase of 9’ 6” was still available as an option on the Borderer, against the standard 10’8”.
Not to mention, of course, the age: an H-plate Mk.2 tractor (August 1969-July 1970) simply cannot be a Borderer, because they weren’t even announced until October 1970.
The cab was revised slightly in 1972, with a larger headboard and improved sound deadening inside, together with new perforated plastic interior panels replacing the fibreglass panels.
‘Leader’ was a new 38T tractor, designed for the much-anticipated weight increases which never happened. It was altogether sturdier than the outgoing Mk.2 Rear Steer, designed principally to meet the legislation requiring 5 axles for most 32 tonners (based on outer axle spread). Leader had a stronger frame, different wheelbases and running gear, and different suspension on the second steer axle.
‘Venturer’ was a 6x4 tractor, again aimed at the naively-expected 44T operation, but also available to operate at higher weights, eventually up to 75T. Of course, there were all sorts of special order variations on this, as with most Atkinsons.
The detailed variant descriptions continued in the same format, so a Borderer could be, for example, T3446C, 34T gross with a ■■■■■■■■ Later on, suffixes were added such as T3446C(G) to denote a ‘Group’ (i.e. Seddon) drive axle, or power ratings for ■■■■■■■ and RR engines so you could have, say, T3446C250 for a Borderer with a 250 ■■■■■■■■ The most powerful option offered on the Borderer was the turbocharged Rolls 280, although only a handful were ever built.
Thanks for you input “jshepguis” Chris why did i ask ! Thanks for all the information,you certainly know your Atkinsons.
ramone:
Punchy Dan:
I think the N10 EAB114S possibly is the one my uncle bought 2nd hand ,it was new to a fuel firm from tenbury wells who didn’t keep it long before selling it to Holland’s cheese nr Nantwich who made it a sleeper cab ,my uncle was the 3rd owner ,Steve Poole a scrap merchant from stoke ran it after and then Aden Hare from fole ,it’s now in preservation.I think Smith and Robinson from Leeds had one i’m sure Chris Webb will remember it
Yes Smith & Robinson definately run them.
Punchy Dan:
That’s Me in the bottom picture.Great pics Dan,thanks for posting.
ramone:
“Punchy Dan” I think there were 6 at the time
I didn’t realise they had so many.
I was on my way to Chapel on le Frith last summer and notice some old bonnetted motors parked in a yard i only got a quick look but they looked like either Volvo or Scania
Retired Old ■■■■:
“Punchy Dan”
Long before you wore the knees out of your jeans, then?!?!
Chris Webb:
“ramone”
I think Smith and Robinson from Leeds had one i’m sure Chris Webb will remember itAye,I saw it once or twice Ramone.this isn’t my photo,not many of that N10 around.
Nice pic Chris.
smallcoal:
A young looking Dan nice trucks there mate
Album pics. Not taken by me.
Ed Weetman Volvo F10
ICI Seddon Atkinson.
“240Gardner” P&O Scania 111
Eastern Roadways Crusader.
Wisbech Roadways Buffalo.
Charringtons Fuel Oils Guy.
Gordons Foden.
Wincantons ERF
Bishops Bedford TK.
Dens Transport Atkinson.
Linpac Mercedes.
Canning Seddon Atkinson.
Anyone recognise the Volvo F7 ■■?
Anyone recognise the ERF ■■?
Marshall ERF
Woodside Steel DAF
Lucas Leyland Cruiser.
Cant make the name out on the door of the ERF.
Rockwool Scania.
Rugby Cement Foden.
The red steel cab ERF belongs to Bob James from Rothley, Leicestershire.