Ford D series was only 28 ton… not sure about Bedford either… Probably Atki, ERF, Seddon, Don’t know if Volvo F86 had a big hold in 72… I think Volvo was out selling the Scania 80’'s …Was the question… what was the top selling British 32 ton artic?.. or what was the best seller 32 ton artic in Britton?..
Jeff…
Morning Dean.
I don’t know much about Cargill Albion as they were foodstuffs manufacturers,but I think it was a tie up between the old Albion Sugar company and Cargills.I believe Cargills have a big site in Trafford Park and it was the former Corn Products company.I would say that the ERF is one of Tankfreights on contract,having that Leeds/West Yorks reg plate.
As far as the leading 32 tonner question is concerned I’d go for the AEC Mandator…………… 
Chris Webb wrote:
Morning Dean.
The AEC Mercury HWJ 142J is ex Frank Philips Haulage Ltd,Sheffield.
Thanks Chris,did you drive for them?
Hi Dean,no but I knew the company and some of their drivers int 70s.I recognise the old livery and reg plate,had a lift in it to Leicester Forest when on a dodgy.
Yes,sad I know……………. 
Seddon 32/4 ? 
Leyland Beaver?
marky:
240 Gardner:
DEANB:
Ashcrofts Atkinson. Cant remember seeing one of these before.Anyone know where they were based ?
0Tommy Ashcroft was a long time Pandoro subby, based in Rufford in West Lancashire. He had a handful of Atkis like this, and I believe he even operated a Bedford KM tractor at one time.
The trailer looks unfamiliar, but the box looks like a Pandoro (ex-Ferrymasters Ireland, I think) ‘bulktainer’, and which would have loaded out of ICI Fibres at Pontypool before purpose-built tanker trailers were bought
Tommy Ashcroft died last year - well into his eighties and was still driving one of his own wagons up until a few months before he died. The business still exists at Rufford, although the last of the liveried wagons (ERF ECs) have now been sold. They now operate a clutch of white unlettered DAFs.
Thanks Marl - sorry to hear that. He was a funny old bloke in some ways, to say the least.
DEANB:
Right then chaps, there is a question at the end of todays photos,have a look and drop your answer on
here please. Should be intresting to see who gets it right ■■?
Bulmers F88.They had a hard life on Bulmers double and triple manned. Article on page 122 about them.
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Blue Dart Seddon Atkinson for the Welsh chaps.
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Tilcon Foden for “windrush”
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Cargill Albion ERF tanker. Know anything about these Chris Webb ■■?
Thats a rare one behind Coakes Transport Scania from Corfe Mullen. He still has a collection of some of
his old trucks and as far as i know he still shows them.6
I think we have had this roadtrain on before ! Anyone recognise it ■■?
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Says Robinson on the door of the ERF so i imagine it was on contract to Astbury Silca Co.
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A & E Transport Scania from Sheffield.
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James Brady from Carlisle. Smart looking FIAT,looks like trilex wheels on the front.
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How about this one “FLOURPOWER”.
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Citizen Seddon Atkinson draw-bar passing a Holts 400.
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Hello Dean ,always good to see Bulmers they had some lovely old Fodens ,forever up the A49,wouls see them around Burtonwood nr Warrington ,they may have had a depot thier ,thank you Trevor
“Hello Dean ,always good to see Bulmers they had some lovely old Fodens ,forever up the A49,wouls see them around Burtonwood nr Warrington ,they may have had a depot thier ,thank you Trevor”
Hi Trevor, Bulmer’s wagons including Fodens dailymotion.com/video/x3apo7t
Oily
DEANB:
Right then chaps ,lets see who has been paying attention !Now i dont want any cheating read the question and answer please. No looking at old truck magazines
or google searches ! Read and answer.“What was the top selling 32 ton model sold in Britain in 1972 ?”
Make and model please.
I was only 6 in 1972
Should be intresting to see the answers and i will pop the answer on Sunday.
Will pop some more stuff on tonight ,off to work.
Something of a trick question, the best selling 32 tonner, maybe unwittingly on your part Dean as you were only 6 at the time! In 1972 I think that was the first year that “foreign” imports actually achieved 10% of sales in the UK. In the artic sector then the medium weights, 20 to 28 tons gross were still selling very well. I know from the research I did for my Gardner book that in the early '70s the total number of Gardner powered 32 tonners, i.e. ERF, Atkinson, Foden, Seddon was approximately the same as all the other 32 tonners combined. I would say, and this is without looking back at any information I might still have, then the top three (not necessarily in the correct order) would have been Seddon 32/4 (It was the cheapest), AEC Mandator, and Guy Big J. And as the dark horse the Leyland Buffalo headless wonder.
DEANB:
Right then chaps, there is a question at the end of todays photos,have a look and drop your answer on
here please. Should be intresting to see who gets it right ■■?Bulmers F88.They had a hard life on Bulmers double and triple manned. Article on page 122 about them.
9
Blue Dart Seddon Atkinson for the Welsh chaps.
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Tilcon Foden for “windrush”
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Cargill Albion ERF tanker. Know anything about these Chris Webb ■■?
Thats a rare one behind Coakes Transport Scania from Corfe Mullen. He still has a collection of some of
his old trucks and as far as i know he still shows them.6
I think we have had this roadtrain on before ! Anyone recognise it ■■?
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Says Robinson on the door of the ERF so i imagine it was on contract to Astbury Silca Co.
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A & E Transport Scania from Sheffield.
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James Brady from Carlisle. Smart looking FIAT,looks like trilex wheels on the front.
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How about this one “FLOURPOWER”.
WOW What a great photo never seen an artic Hovis Foden tanker!!can you do me a copy please you keep coming up with these beauties Dean thankyou!!!1
Citizen Seddon Atkinson draw-bar passing a Holts 400.
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I think that the Tilcon Haulmaster was from either Ballidon or Kevin quarries as it has the loading lamp on the cab roof that we fitted to them all in our workshop? A pity we don’t know where the pic was taken. Driver could well be Alan Astley (‘China Chicken’ on the CB) who lived at Tean, Staffs, and was based at Kevin quarry, he later became an OD when the fleet were being sold off and actually bought the Foden that I used to drive, C433 LHE.
I’m still waiting for a pic of one of my trucks to appear…I could be waiting a long while
Pete.
Was it the Leyland Marathon mk1 or did that come out in 73? 
I know the mk2 came in 1977
Morning Dean,
That was the year I started selling trucks and trade-in’s were mainly Mandators in the 32 ton range, so I will go for the Mandator. Harvey
1966 Austin A60 Cambridge, bottom half light grey & off-white upper.
This does not count the several green & rust, blue & rust, even purple (!) & rust heaps that I owned for short periods of extreme poverty (spouse-instigated!)
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Morning R O F
You will remember this then, great car, did many miles in one. Harvey
HRS:
1966 Austin A60 Cambridge, bottom half light grey & off-white upper.
This does not count the several green & rust, blue & rust, even purple (!) & rust heaps that I owned for short periods of extreme poverty (spouse-instigated!)
Morning R O F
You will remember this then, great car, did many miles in one. Harvey
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Like the marina car I had two of them as a youngster not the estate though
Just a guess but i’ll go with the Leyland Buffalo
smallcoal:
Retired Old ■■■■:
oiltreader:
“Whats the make of the car with the bonnet up,anyone know ■■?” Ford Consul Deanbit of trim missing sorted when repainted.
OilyI was thinking more Mk 11 Zephyr or Zodiac with the two-tone paint?
You never see two tone cars anymore just plain coloured my father had a two tone cortina ,when did the two tone stop anyone know
Land Rover still make two tone cars.
Hi Dean,
Regarding your 1972 question,I think AEC Mandator.
Regards Andrew.
Retired Old ■■■■:
smallcoal:
Retired Old ■■■■:
oiltreader:
“Whats the make of the car with the bonnet up,anyone know ■■?” Ford Consul Dean
OilyI was thinking more Mk 11 Zephyr or Zodiac with the two-tone paint?
You never see two tone cars anymore just plain coloured my father had a two tone cortina ,when did the two tone stop anyone know
I reckon it was in the 1970s when robots were employed (on greatly reduced wages!) to spray bodies. It would have cost around 50% more to apply two colours on each car body. The last two-tone car I had was a 1966 Austin A60 Cambridge, bottom half light grey & off-white upper.
This does not count the several green & rust, blue & rust, even purple (!) & rust heaps that I owned for short periods of extreme poverty (spouse-instigated!)
You could get mk5 Cortinas and mk3 Granadas with a two tone silver and blue paint job, so early 80s.
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my dad had a Vauxhall cresta same as this. beautiful car…
ps. like hrs I will say aec mandator as most sold 32 tonner in 72.
