To add describe a twin split floated upshift from 3rd to 4th which obviously also means a split shift from high to low.How can the splitter make a torque sensed downshift from a floated upshift ?.Obviously a moot question given clutch actuation in that case.
The break in torque actuates the shift.
Which is achieved by theâŚâŚ.. accelerator.
So any change in the accelerator application and resulting change in torque, after preselecting the shift, will actuate it.Which makes preselection virtually impossible.Thatâs exactly what I said.
What has that got to do with floating constant mesh gears.Which is bad practice because of the potential for a torque load in either direction to be applied to a partially engaged/disengaged dog or gear in the case of sliding mesh.Thats why double de clutching was invented.
Out of my depth Iâm only paddling.
Youâre the expert so describe your idea of a shift from 3rd to 4th on a twin split without using the clutch.My take on it is a preselected, clutch actuated, split and double de clutched shift.That explains the advert.The split shifts in conjunction with full stick controlled shifts are preselected and clutch actuated.
Good luck with floating that.
Yes, Mercâs installation of knock-thruâ ZFs was the worst of the lot. They werenât so bad when the mechanism was worn and the lorry was ready for the knackers yardâŚ
Not in the least odd! They varied hugely. Think ZF 16sp syncro: ghastly in a Merc, excellent in a DAF. Think Eaton Twinsplitter: hopeless in a Sed-Atki, superb in a MAN. I could cite loads more examples. Itâs the installation that counts!
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They were ready for the scrappers from new and still aređ
No you didnât!
The first 95s were heavy gear changes but nothing like the Mercs but they sorted that quite quickly the 2800s i drove had the knock over and they were ok too
- Your first sentence. You engage 1st position on the 3-position switch and timing it beautifully, you move the stick from 1st stick position to 2nd stick position. You can do it with or without the clutch.
- Downshifts on the switch (there are 3 positions in each corner, remember) can be done clutchlessly. Downshifts from stick positions to stick positions have to double-declutched, obs.
It is not âbad practiceâ in a gearbox specially designed by geniuses to safely achieve what you call bad practice. You tell tell âem CF, all those charlatons at Eaton: wouldnât know a gear-stick if it wacked them round the head 
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The answers to all these questions, which youâve asked time and again, are all on here, CF:
My name is not Carryfast, as such l would not be presumptuous or stupid enough to try and describe or argue how to use a gearbox I have never seen.
You tell me what you understand floating to mean (apart from what you do with your rubber ducky, in the bath), because in my parlance, it is running in neutral, as in floating off the top of a hill.
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Thatâs âBig Paulâ at the wheel who hales from West Wales on his way to Germany there is another two motors in the convoy , Tommy P in his new 660 unit and another top Lad called Danny from Hull on one of the BEWICK 770âs. Three top Lads and a top outfit !
How did you know SDU that CF does funny things in the bath with his Rubber Duck !
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I imagine you would have loaded a few of these in your time Dennis i would watch J&H Hinchcliffes and Richard Nuttalls loading out of Trinity at Holcombe many years ago.Richard Nuttall had an Octopus like that but before my time.
Agreed, Probably looks that bit better sprouting the Welsh Flag Boyo âŚâŚâŚ.
Hopefully Dennis will agree!
E.W.
A mate of mine from the IOW just bought this second hand all the way up in Scotland, the chap he bought it from just got an identical new one which set him back K360.
Unloading sheep after getting the cattle off at Salisbury Market today.
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Looks like invisible ropes.Itâll be fine until he does it with the wrong load and heâs left with a pile of intact ropes and shredded sheets and no load.