Past Present and in Between in Pictures (Part 2)

Not sure about a tractor unit but a Cat powered eight wheel tipper chassis was an option

I had a 4x2 Foden a 1986 model just before the 4000 series were launched.I loved it a great motor

There wasn’t much around in the 1980’s that could make almost 2,000 lbs/ft at 1,200 rpm and 425 hp at 1,800 rpm.

That’s a misprint carryfast, 1966Nm is 1450lbft. That was right up there in 1988, a Mercedes 1748 was 2000Nm or 1476lbft. There was absolutely nothing at that time anywhere near 2000lbft.

What’s the story here? I don’t know where this is but I’ll guess Turkey.

I can see where you’re going with that (it’s a Bedford too):

Looks like typical CM article confusion I thought the first figures were referring to the lower spec output. But either way the 3406B was about as good as it got by the standards of the day.

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:+1:

Off FB.

Yes, Imranli in Turkey. The truck was frozen in place and when a grader tried to pull it out, it ripped out the front axle.

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That would’ve been an interesting phone call. :grimacing:

Yes indeed! It was between Sivas and Erzincan and could be a bit of a challenge in winter. I seem to remember there was a TIR control point somewhere near Imranli so perhaps that’s where the grader came from. I’ll bet the Scammell’s remains are still there!

Is it a Scammell? I can see why you think so (unless you really know :wink: ), but it has the look of a Yank about it too. :thinking:

It’s quite clearly a Scammell Crusader. The only reason it looks American is that

  1. The tall version of the Mk4 Motor Panels cab looked American anyway
  2. The aerodyne-looking high cab is a snow drift
  3. The set-forward axle (Yankee style) has only been set forward by a six-wheel grader tearing it off!

EDIT to add: I’ve just found a much clearer picture of the same Crusader on page 88 of David Bowers’s book, Beyond the Bosphorous.

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It was an informed guess, thanks to reading many stories on here (yours and others) about overland journeys to the ME and particularly in winter.

Yes, Turkey was terrible in winter for snow. Folk forget that the Anatolian plateau is quite high and gets severe weather; and Eastern Turkey can get temperatures below 50 in the Kars area.

The classic bad bits were Death Valley, as brits called it and Tahir mountain. I never did Death Valley because it was by-passed by a motorway by the time I did it, but I did have to brave Bolu in snow, which you have to cross beforehand. And I never did Tahir either because I always went via Syria. The salt flats to Aksaray and Pozanti, going south to cross the Toros mountains could be very bleak in winter. Oddly, one of the worst snow storms I encountered was in a normally inoccuous corner of Turkey on the coastal road from Istanbul to the Greek border at Ipsala. It’s a very hilly road and the snow rendered it almost un-navigable. Snow chains on - ugh! I never want to see a snow chain again!

^^^
Pah !
That’s nowt.
Have ya ever been over Shap in November ?
Sometimes that M6 is down to 2 lanes.:flushed_face:
:wink:
:joy::joy:

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What’s the bucket for ? :sweat_smile: