Russian Urals.
oily
Some more from Roy Morgan’s collection of photo’s.
A few more from Roy Morgan.
Leyland600:
Hi Bewick, your tale of P& S would have suited RWB down to the ground and he would have backed you up in your claim 100% with a few appropriate descriptive words originating just north of Skiddaw.
I was off work with a broken leg in plaster at this time and consequently was riding shotgun in the Reiver. When we got to Scunthorpe with the two 7 ton moulds the crane driver informed RW that I had to get out of the cab because if he happened to drop a mould on the cab I would not be worth picking up. RW,s reply , "If thoo drops that mould on my cab A,hll be up that ladder into thy cab an thoo,ll not be worth picking up, so git lifting an tek it roond the cab an use a bit o common sense!! " Can you imagine the scene ■■
Cheers, happy days. Leyland 600
Hiya L600,you are spot on with the response the crane driver would have recieved from the Great RWB!! I can just imagine the scene like I was there!! When you mentioned being on your way to Scunthorpe I assumed it was with a DEC Mould/s and I was going to ask,was it one lump or two or three! However,you answered the question,they sure were lightweight motors those LAD Albion trailing axle motors and because of the ULW requirements of the then carrier licencing IIRC you could claim an automatic 10cwt lift when the motor was replaced,I’m a bit hazy on the exact time period allowed but in ADB’s case the Beaver would have been over 10 years old when the Reiver replaced it.With the Beaver being a fairly heavy motor the increase in ULW to a single drive Riever would have been fairly straightforward for old ADB to get.14 ton at 20 ton GVW is an excellent payload,and I recall the 2nd “A” Licence I got came off a 1959 AEC Mercury flat and I managed to lift it to a 26ton gross Mastiff artic at about 7.5ton ULW.Cheers Bewick.
Bewick:
oiltreader:
This is a cracking picture of a machine discussed on this thread some months ago. I remember them well, I saw at least two of them in my time(1960s) on the old A6/A74, they are a bit of a legend, not least because, nothing else could keep up, even you empty, them loaded, anyway well done the restoration man.
oilyWell “oily” I must disagree with you about P&S Macks,we could and did “■■■■ all over them” with the Brady Octopus 8 wheeler and trailer,I recall that we were in the Rosebank cafe at Gretna one afternoon,on our way to Glasgow and there was a couple of them in the cafe as well.When they upped and left,my mate Eric just winked at me,said finnish your tea lad,we’ll catch them two buggers up and “walk” past them further up road.We duly did!! ■■■■■■ all over them we did,and we were fully freighted as we always were!! I just gave them the “whip sign” out of the nearside window !!We did them a few times on the M6 as well,believe it or not thats the truth.Cheers Bewick.
Dennis I dont doubt your word for one minute, But I knew Geo Patterson, I used to back load off him in the 50/60s era, & he allways overloaded his motors no matter what, he didnt give a chuff about the law, or the weights & measure lot, I wonder if he is still about plus his son ■■?, Regards Larry.
Lawrence Dunbar:
Bewick:
oiltreader:
This is a cracking picture of a machine discussed on this thread some months ago. I remember them well, I saw at least two of them in my time(1960s) on the old A6/A74, they are a bit of a legend, not least because, nothing else could keep up, even you empty, them loaded, anyway well done the restoration man.
oilyWell “oily” I must disagree with you about P&S Macks,we could and did “■■■■ all over them” with the Brady Octopus 8 wheeler and trailer,I recall that we were in the Rosebank cafe at Gretna one afternoon,on our way to Glasgow and there was a couple of them in the cafe as well.When they upped and left,my mate Eric just winked at me,said finnish your tea lad,we’ll catch them two buggers up and “walk” past them further up road.We duly did!! ■■■■■■ all over them we did,and we were fully freighted as we always were!! I just gave them the “whip sign” out of the nearside window !!We did them a few times on the M6 as well,believe it or not thats the truth.Cheers Bewick.
Dennis I dont doubt your word for one minute, But I knew Geo Patterson, I used to back load off him in the 50/60s era, & he allways overloaded his motors no matter what, he didnt give a chuff about the law, or the weights & measure lot, I wonder if he is still about plus his son ■■?, Regards Larry.
Fair comment Larry,and I’ve no doubt that P&S were just as bad,if not worse ,than many other steel hauliers of their time,particular the Scottish contingent!!However,I can tell you that at times,more often than not,we had some awful bloody weights on the waggon and trailer.Big indivisable weights out of the Shipyard,27ton of cellophane,often,and regularly 22ton for The Abbey plus 5 or 6 ton for some other little works in S.Wales.Most of the time our loads were “transhipped” in the depot off a couple of 4 in-lines or tandems.I couldn’t confirm to what our particular load was on the odd occaision we came across a P&S Mack,but they sure were all “wind and ■■■■” from what I can re-call,more a case of “myth and legend” than fact from what I witnessed from the passenger seat of the Octopus! Keep yer elbows in wor Hinney!!! Cheers Dennis.
Swopping trailers at Lochmaddy, I had a good chinwag with the driver on the handle, who put me wise to what was going on, like the unit they are uncoupling was brand new, on its first job and that there would be 3 coming off the boat, two of which would drop trailers and take the ones they had dropped back to the mainland.
oily
Two of the three that came off the ferry for the swop, the DAF driven by a very competent woman driver, she was behind us on the boat with the empty trailers.
oily
oiltreader:
A couple more.Hiya oily the pics are fantastic thanks,i have not seen them all yet i just wondered if you can remember Dayson,s from carlisle i think i worked for Myatts/Masons Barnsley/Rotherham whilst loading one day on Ipswich docks i got loaded and pulled up the shed to sheet up and beside me was one of Dayson,s scania and the driver only had one arm so naturaly how come he said he lost his arm fitting a tyre and the rim flew off but the guy waas brill he could do his job right enough my mates would not believe me when i told them. just wondered if any of the old drivers on trucknet knew of him or Daysons
oily
found this on na3t ray contact bob hobs on na3 t for a copy
Courtesy of Roy Morgan.
Ray Leggy:
oiltreader:
A couple more.Hiya oily the pics are fantastic thanks,i have not seen them all yet i just wondered if you can remember Dayson,s from carlisle i think i worked for Myatts/Masons Barnsley/Rotherham whilst loading one day on Ipswich docks i got loaded and pulled up the shed to sheet up and beside me was one of Dayson,s scania and the driver only had one arm so naturaly how come he said he lost his arm fitting a tyre and the rim flew off but the guy waas brill he could do his job right enough my mates would not believe me when i told them. just wondered if any of the old drivers on trucknet knew of him or Daysons
oily
Hi Ray Leggy, more Dayson stuff here public.fotki.com/Scottishtruckph … -southwai/
and here public.fotki.com/kerso/scania-11 … e-035.html.
Glad you enjoy the thread.
oily
Hi, Revman ,are F A Dysons still going they use to load shotblast with us for the North East and Scotland ,out of allsopps AT Bagillt ,North Wales, yours Barry