remy:
oiltreader:
Two more thanks to Len Rogers.
OilyThat Williams Scammel looks powerfull even when it’s parked up
Charles
An Ex Pickfords I would say, Great looking bit of a British Made motor from the famous works at Watford, Regards Larry.
Thanks to Lawrence Dunbar for the ERF ERF ERF 
I’m a bit puzzled by the headlights, originals blanked 
this model was surely after WW2 and the blackout restrictions, anyway another Scammell this time Mechanical Horse and from the NE, with thanks to Pete Edgeler.
Oily
Hi Steve was quite surprised to see the QTR trucks, I know Paul White who runs that company as he is into driving horses which is a passion of mine. Are they his trucks or are they owned by some one else ? and just run in there colours. Always wondered what the QTR stood for and he told me it was Quick Turnover R-------. as they started out doing fruit and veg I believe, cheers Buzzer.
Buzzer:
Hi Steve was quite surprised to see the QTR trucks, I know Paul White who runs that company as he is into driving horses which is a passion of mine. Are they his trucks or are they owned by some one else ? and just run in there colours. Always wondered what the QTR stood for and he told me it was Quick Turnover R-------. as they started out doing fruit and veg I believe, cheers Buzzer.
Hi Buzzer
They do belong to Paul at QTR and they did start originally in fruit and veg at Reading Market and in Union Street or " Smelly Alley" as it’s known locally. QTR does stand for Quick TurnoveR
They are moving up to Greenham Common soon.
Cheers
Steve
Hi Steve thanks for the info, here is a picture of Paul on a drive I organized in October in the New Forest, he is riding shotgun and his son is driving just coming into a drinks stop at the Royal Oak at Fritham, cheers Buzzer.
Hi Oily, I spoke to a former haulier and coach operating friend fom up in the hills today who is much older than I, he was quite friendly with Walter Colquohoun and remembers him running one or two tippers on local work, one important job was removing sludge etc from Carlisle sewage works and tipping it on local farm field. That ERF looks much too good to be used on that kind of work. My friend says it was painted green with a light coloured mudguards.
Cheers, Leyland 600.
oiltreader:
Thanks to Lawrence Dunbar for the ERF ERF ERF
Oily
Well they appear to me as the old Butlers lamps & of course this ERF Was a 1944/5 reg if that’s anything to go by ■■?, Regards Larry.
oiltreader:
Thanks to Lawrence Dunbar for the ERF ERF ERF
Oily
This old mechanical horse is just great, The reg on it is not its original one for some reason or other, It should have a late 30s/earley 40s Reg, But never mind that its a great shot of another Watford great IMO, I drove one of these when I first started driving in the 50s JVK.44, Reg, 1944, Happy days long gone now but still remembered by me & many, many others no doubt, Regards Larry.
Buzzer:
Hi Steve was quite surprised to see the QTR trucks, I know Paul White who runs that company as he is into driving horses which is a passion of mine. Are they his trucks or are they owned by some one else ? and just run in there colours. Always wondered what the QTR stood for and he told me it was Quick Turnover R-------. as they started out doing fruit and veg I believe, cheers Buzzer.
I used to work on their trucks as an apprentice mechanic in the 60’s when Peter ran it as fruit and veg, an Austin FJK 100 five tonner and later a LWB Bedford TK dropsider. He always kept them clean and tidy, unlike some other fruiterers in the Reading area who will be nameless! 
Pete.
Lawrence Dunbar:
000VALKYRIE:
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Lawrence Dunbar:
Leyland600:
Hi Lawrence, that ERF registration number is bugging me too, it looks so familiar but I cannot say who the owner was, my initial thoughts were Smiles of Blucher but you would know about their fleet much better than anyone. What about the Co-op flour mill at Dunston, I remember them having some high radiator interim Leyland Beavers LTN ■■■ registered and possibly an ERF such as this twin steer.
Cheers Leyland 600.Well it isn’t one of Smilers the only twin stears they had was in the late 30s & were comondered by the War Dept, Its possible it may have been one of Associated Lead motors (Cooksons), or as you say one of the Co-ops, Hopefully someone might remember who it was, Regards Larry.
Larry and Leyland600 The REG MBB 222 belong to Wallsend Motor Co if my memory is still working .
crowbarERF Streamline CI561S 6x2 Twin Steer Chinese Six Lorry,Chassis No.4685,MBB 222,registered Newcastle-On-Tyne,May-June 1948,delivered on Wednesday,30th June,1948 and new to Tyne Ferries & White Star Transport,and then was operated by British Road Services.
VALKYRIE
Thank you for Info, Heres one of there older ERF,s Taken below the Tyne Bridge, Regards Larry.
And thanks for the photograph of the Tyne Ferries & White Star Transport ERF Streamline OE4 4x2 Lorry.
The magnificent Scammell Junior Constructor 6x4 Heavy Haulage Ballast Road Locomotive,VXD 531,is indeed ex-Pickfords M2071.
To return to the ERF Streamline CI561S,MBB 222,ELSIE,here is a bit more information on this great lorry:The DVLA file says it was built in 1947,so MBB 222 might not be it’s original registration,plus the fact when it entered the ranks of preserved and restored motor vehicles in 1987 it was registered YSV 461.It was also a fairground lorry at one time. To my knowledge,it’s had three owners since it was preserved:-
K.Dickens Motor Engineers,Northwich,Cheshire:-
ccmv.aecsouthall.co.uk/p32254533 … #h209c5472
McInnes of Alloa:-
ccmv.aecsouthall.co.uk/p32254533 … #h33125327
J.T.Evans Welsh Border Transport,Chirk:-
ccmv.aecsouthall.co.uk/p32254533 … #h39f4567e
VALKYRIE
The Scammell Junior Constructor will most likely have a Leyland 600 or 680 in it not even the power plus and do around 28 mph flat out I know this from having driven one as going up hill you could get out to see if the wheels were going round 
cheers Johnnie
VALKYRIE:
Lawrence Dunbar:
000VALKYRIE:
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Lawrence Dunbar:
Leyland600:
Hi Lawrence, that ERF registration number is bugging me too, it looks so familiar but I cannot say who the owner was, my initial thoughts were Smiles of Blucher but you would know about their fleet much better than anyone. What about the Co-op flour mill at Dunston, I remember them having some high radiator interim Leyland Beavers LTN ■■■ registered and possibly an ERF such as this twin steer.
Cheers Leyland 600.Well it isn’t one of Smilers the only twin stears they had was in the late 30s & were comondered by the War Dept, Its possible it may have been one of Associated Lead motors (Cooksons), or as you say one of the Co-ops, Hopefully someone might remember who it was, Regards Larry.
Larry and Leyland600 The REG MBB 222 belong to Wallsend Motor Co if my memory is still working .
crowbarERF Streamline CI561S 6x2 Twin Steer Chinese Six Lorry,Chassis No.4685,MBB 222,registered Newcastle-On-Tyne,May-June 1948,delivered on Wednesday,30th June,1948 and new to Tyne Ferries & White Star Transport,and then was operated by British Road Services.
VALKYRIE
Thank you for Info, Heres one of there older ERF,s Taken below the Tyne Bridge, Regards Larry.
And thanks for the photograph of the Tyne Ferries & White Star Transport ERF Streamline OE4 4x2 Lorry.
The magnificent Scammell Junior Constructor 6x4 Heavy Haulage Ballast Road Locomotive,VXD 531,is indeed ex-Pickfords M2071.
To return to the ERF Streamline CI561S,MBB 222,ELSIE,here is a bit more information on this great lorry:The DVLA file says it was built in 1947,so MBB 222 might not be it’s original registration,plus the fact when it entered the ranks of preserved and restored motor vehicles in 1987 it was registered YSV 461.It was also a fairground lorry at one time. To my knowledge,it’s had three owners since it was preserved:-
K.Dickens Motor Engineers,Northwich,Cheshire:-
ccmv.aecsouthall.co.uk/p32254533 … #h209c5472McInnes of Alloa:-
ccmv.aecsouthall.co.uk/p32254533 … #h33125327J.T.Evans Welsh Border Transport,Chirk:-
ccmv.aecsouthall.co.uk/p32254533 … #h39f4567eVALKYRIE
Good info, If in fact it was a 1947 Newcastle reg It would have been Lettered, LBB, LTN, Or LVK . Regards Larry.
Leyland600:
Hi Oily, I spoke to a former haulier and coach operating friend fom up in the hills today who is much older than I, he was quite friendly with Walter Colquohoun and remembers him running one or two tippers on local work, one important job was removing sludge etc from Carlisle sewage works and tipping it on local farm field. That ERF looks much too good to be used on that kind of work. My friend says it was painted green with a light coloured mudguards.
Cheers, Leyland 600.
I can imagine drives face lighting up when he saw his new steed and then quickly disappearing when told what the job was .
Oily
Great info input and also pics from neversweat1 and Buzzer now a quartet of Albions all thanks to Ronnie Cameron.
Oily
Hi Oily, a couple of comments to make regarding the Albion Cheiftains just posted. RSG 261 has a mid 1950s style cab built by Kirkness and Innes a Leith company I believe. JHH 249 is an ex J & W Watt motor which probably spent a large part of its life doing Carlisle to London night trunks, it is a nicely presented wagon residing in the Dumfries Thornhill area.
Cheers, Leyland 600
A couple of ERF’s from me today Oily, cheers Buzzer.
Thanks to neversweat1 and Buzzer for the pics … back to the previous page and the neversweat1 FWD pic, there’s a fair chance it had an AEC engine as AEC had connections, these excerpts thanks to Wikipedia
A British subsidiary was set up at Slough in 1921. In 1926, the British FWD, also known as the Quad, was produced with a larger 70 bhp engine.
In 1932, AEC took a controlling interest in the British company and began to use more standard AEC components in the Slough-built vehicles. To distinguish these from imported U.S. FWD vehicles, they were marketed under the name Hardy. Production ceased about 1936, but AEC exploited its experience with all-wheel drive in its Second World War Matador (4x4) and Marshall (6x6) vehicles.
an advert with one of the originals.
Oily
