Past Present and in Between in Pictures (Part 1)

oiltreader · 25 March 2014 17:49

Leyland600:
Hi Oily, a couple of comments to make regarding the Albion Cheiftains just posted. RSG 261 has a mid 1950s style cab built by Kirkness and Innes a Leith company I believe. JHH 249 is an ex J & W Watt motor which probably spent a large part of its life doing Carlisle to London night trunks, it is a nicely presented wagon residing in the Dumfries Thornhill area.
Cheers, Leyland 600

I was in digs in Aberdeen (1956) the husband was on with J G Barrack and his wagon was a Chieftain with a similar cab, it looked the business, gold lettering on green with coach line panels.

The J G Barrack story here archive.commercialmotor.com/arti … ad-transpo
Oily

oiltreader · 25 March 2014 18:00

Another FWD wagon this time in Sweden and flying the Norwegian flag.
Oily

buzzer · 25 March 2014 18:13

Hi all it says its a Garford but where is it from ? any one know Buzzer

lespullan · 25 March 2014 18:37

Buzzer:
Hi all it says its a Garford but where is it from ? any one know Buzzer

Hi, Ohio USA.
Les.

valkyrie · 25 March 2014 19:52

oiltreader:
Thanks to neversweat1 and Buzzer for the pics … back to the previous page and the neversweat1 FWD pic, there’s a fair chance it had an AEC engine as AEC had connections, these excerpts thanks to Wikipedia
A British subsidiary was set up at Slough in 1921. In 1926, the British FWD, also known as the Quad, was produced with a larger 70 bhp engine.

In 1932, AEC took a controlling interest in the British company and began to use more standard AEC components in the Slough-built vehicles. To distinguish these from imported U.S. FWD vehicles, they were marketed under the name Hardy. Production ceased about 1936, but AEC exploited its experience with all-wheel drive in its Second World War Matador (4x4) and Marshall (6x6) vehicles.

an advert with one of the originals.
Oily

oiltreader:
Another FWD wagon this time in Sweden and flying the Norwegian flag.
Oily

neversweat1:
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Steve

Garford.
1909-1933.
Elyria,Ohio,USA,to 1915,then
Lima,Ohio,USA,1915-1933.
Makers of motor trucks,buses and motorcoaches,the company was taken over by Relay Motors,formerly of Wabash,Indiana,USA,then Lima,Ohio,in
1927…the company went bust in December 1932 and was taken over by Consolidated Motors which made Relay and Garford motor vehicles,but failed to make a profit.

The foundations for the famous British Gilford Motor Company and it’s motorcoach,lorry and bus range were largely inspired my Garford motor vehicles,since the founder of Gilford,E.B.Horne and Company,London N7,imported Garford motor vehicles in to the United Kingdom.

The red-orange Statens Vegvesen - operated lorry,PC 9331,is a FWD HAR-O1 4x4.

In regard to Oiltreader’s comments on the FWD SU-COE,here are some details:-
FWD SU-COE,PERKINS DIESEL-ENGINED,4x4 SHOWMANS BALLAST DIESEL ROAD LOCOMOTIVE,FOT 556,VANGUARD.April-May 1947 Southampton.T.Noyce and Sons.
Had a Waukesha petrol engine from new,was re-engined with a Leyland diesel engine,has been recently restored and has been re-engined with a Perkins diesel engine and fitted with power assisted steering.As to exactly what model diesel engines they were-are I don’t know at present.

VALKYRIE

adr · 25 March 2014 21:33

Another contender for how much can you get in a windscreen & still see out

lurpak · 25 March 2014 21:38

Hi Oily, a couple from yesterday morning at T Bay

One of my local hauliers were I dropped the motorhomes

Found this on my way home at the bottom of my road, thought you might recognize her

Cheers Ade

adr · 25 March 2014 21:48

Do you know what it is yet!!!

adr · 25 March 2014 22:01

Load it then sheet it! Imagine what your modern driver would say if you asked them to do it today

erfguy · 25 March 2014 23:16

Adr says do you know what it is yet!!!. Aye its a BLOODY mess, did I get it right. Eddie.

valkyrie · 26 March 2014 03:07

Adr:
Do you know what it is yet!!!

A lorry in “Newspaper Livery” Actually,I think it could be a trial example of the forthcoming new Scania heavy lorry range - what will it be called
I wonder:6-Series?.or R-Series (again) or something new and original (for Scania)?

Here is some of what I said in my previous post:“The foundations for the famous British Gilford Motor Company and it’s motorcoach,lorry and bus range were largely inspired my Garford motor vehicles,since the founder of Gilford,E.B.Horne and Company,London N7,imported Garford motor vehicles in to the United Kingdom.”

And here are some photographs of Gilford motorcoaches and a lorry-based van.Although Gilford made buses and lorries,their most popular motor vehicles by far were their motorcoaches
Gilford DF 6 Robson Van-bodied 4x2 Lorry,Chassis No.11664,GN 9609,February 1931 in London.Danish Bacon Company,Fenton,Stoke-on-Trent.Preserved.1996 HCVS London to Brighton Run.Stephen Prosser photograph:-

Gilford Motor Company Gilford Motorcoaches advertisement of 1929:-

And this is the only known surviving Gilford Hera Motorcoach,WG 1620,ex-Alexander YG49…it’s been without it’s Wycombe motorcoach body
since heaven knows when - it was in chassis cab form in 1973 after having been used as a storage platform on a farm for years at Earls Colne,QV
Buses Annual 1969 It was rescued by Ted Heslop,at Hexham and now resides at the Scottish Vintage Bus Museum awaiting a new replica motorcoach body!
At least one other Gilford Hera motorcoach,WG 2322,from the same fleet,was converted into a lorry with a flat body.

Gilford Hera L176S,Wycombe C32F Motorcoach,Chassis No.12185,WG 1620,May 1934.W.Alexander,YG49.Scottish Vintage Bus Museum,Lathalmond,Scotland:-

VALKYRIE

erfguy · 26 March 2014 11:22

The old and the new.

Saw these 2 in Sanquhar earlier this morning. The Iveco at Sreg is getting on a bit whereas the Merc looks fairly new. I noticed the grass round the bottom o the Merc cab could do with a trim.

ROOF PROFILES 1.JPG

cattle_wagon_man · 26 March 2014 11:38

This worse-for-wear Leyland Bison tipper was perched on a narrow strip of excavated roadway , and being filled to full capacity.
God knows what might have happened if the trench side collapsed .
But ,…there again , the Maltese aren`t known for being H. & S. conscious.

Cheers , cattle wagon man.

cattle_wagon_man · 26 March 2014 11:47

A little further along the roadway , was this Dodge 50 Series , carrying the pipes to be used.
With plenty of rear overhang , the pipes could easily be slid rearwards with the tipper body being raised a little.

Cheers , cattle wagon man.

truckfing · 26 March 2014 12:04

cattle wagon man:
This worse-for-wear Leyland Bison tipper was perched on a narrow strip of excavated roadway , and being filled to full capacity.
God knows what might have happened if the trench side collapsed .
But ,…there again , the Maltese aren`t known for being H. & S. conscious.

Cheers , cattle wagon man.

This is the possible result maybe.

harry · 26 March 2014 12:32

adr:
Load it then sheet it! Imagine what your modern driver would say if you asked them to do it today

Don’t forget to rope it - & the fly-sheet?

ubym344 · 26 March 2014 14:37

cattle wagon man:
This worse-for-wear Leyland Bison tipper was perched on a narrow strip of excavated roadway , and being filled to full capacity.
God knows what might have happened if the trench side collapsed .
But ,…there again , the Maltese aren`t known for being H. & S. conscious.

Cheers , cattle wagon man.

would`nt want to be that bloke in the trench, fredm