Brilliant photos from John Stanfield, especially with the scenic backdrop and also fresh off the press
Oily
Tidy Austins, thanks to SG2012.
Brilliant photos from John Stanfield, especially with the scenic backdrop and also fresh off the press
Oily
Tidy Austins, thanks to SG2012.
Thanks to TIDDERSON for the pic another couple of Fodens, tidy for their age, on the A466 Chepstow, thanks to Mark Hobbs.
Oily
Well I never! I didn’t realise that Vulcan were a member of the Rootes Group (Commer, Karrier, Sunbeam, Hillman, Humber). Anyone supply further information?
Retired Old ■■■■:
Well I never! I didn’t realise that Vulcan were a member of the Rootes Group (Commer, Karrier, Sunbeam, Hillman, Humber). Anyone supply further information?
Hi Rof, another two Singer and Talbot, seem to think Peugeot took over Rootes, Vulcan made cars 1902 to 1928 and commercials until 1953. I was only six then , Google tells me the dates.
Les.
Thanks, Les. I hadn’t a clue that Vulcan made cars- never too old to learn! It seemed a bit odd to me that a Rootes company would be supplying Gardner engines as (apparently) standard. Maybe their own product was not considered powerful enough for a payload of seven tons?
You’re quite correct about Peugeot/Talbot taking over the Rootes empire, which, if memory serves, also included Fergusson for a time. In commercial vehicle terms, of course, I reckon that the major contribution of the group was the TS3 engine, fitted, of course, with a Rootes supercharger.
TS3 - Tilling Stevens, another name for the list
Hi ROF, I thought most Vulcans were fitted with Perkins engines but I may be wrong, a haulier friend 's father had one with Perkins power.
Cheers , Leyland 600
Hi
Didnt the Rootes group lorries eventually become Renaults ? At Ripponden we had Commer TS3s ,then same but with Perkins,then Commer Commandos,then Dodge Commandos,then Renault badged Commandos.After that we had full blown Renaults.
I Should say all these were operated alongside Albions and laterly Leylands,because we couldnt get enough Albions/Leylands.
Regards John.
Vulcan of Southport, Lancs bought out by Tilling Stevens of Maidstone in 1930, they in turn were taken over by Rootes Group in 1950.
from Wikipedia… Eric W Coy, Rootes’ Chief Engineer, was responsible for the development of the engine by a core team of only seven people, at the Humber plant at Stoke Aldermoor.[2][3] “TS” in the engine’s name derives from its Tilling-Stevens, acquired by Rootes in 1950. From 1954 Rootes diesel production was moved to the Tilling-Stevens plant in Maidstone, Kent.
and the Commer TS4 which never saw the light of day other than testing.
again from Wikipedia…
The TS4 engine was an enlarged four-cylinder version of the TS3. It ran 1.2 million miles as a pre-production prototype. The project was cancelled after Chrysler bought Rootes in 1968.
Oily
A TS4 engine resides in the Commercial Vehicle Museum at Leyland. Vulcan fitted Gardner engines as well as Perkins, plus their own petrol motors of course, I think ‘BASIC’ would describe them well!
Pete.
windrush:
A TS4 engine resides in the Commercial Vehicle Museum at Leyland. Vulcan fitted Gardner engines as well as Perkins, plus their own petrol motors of course, I think ‘BASIC’ would describe them well!Pete.
Hiya… if you have a look on You tube there’s a short film of a TS4 running on a test bed. i think there’s a TS4 in a Irish museum
and one in Austraila collection.it was said to be a good design but got binned.
John
The state o them ropes jist hingin loose fair makes me want to go an sort it out for him. Eddie.
Leyland 600,
I can remember a couple of Vulcans in the mid-fifties, both of approx. 5 tons carrying capacity and both fitted with Perkins P6 power plants.
old 67,
You are correct in thinking that the old Commer morfed into Dodge/Renault. I drove a Dodge Commando tipper for a week or two and recall that it was certainly nothing to crow about with it’s Perkins 354 and 5-speed (Turner?) box. I would much rather have had the Commer Maxiload from 15 years earlier with it’s TS3 and 6-speed overdrive gearbox- flying machine!
oily,
No wonder Chrysler buried the TS4 engine when they already had a more powerful, if thirsty, two-stroke of their own. Don’t you just hate the way British industry has been knackered by accountants and short-sighted directors?
Windrush,
I really must take a jaunt up to Leyland before I’m too old!