DEANB:
Dont know if International sold alot of trucks in the UK ? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Heres one from 1966.
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I did wonder if the wrecker was an International, did they make them at Doncaster , in the same factory as the tractors?
Sorry dont know “Suedehead” although sounds possible ?
One or two operators in the NE had a few SWB four wheel International tippers namely Andy Charlton (demolition man Gateshead) and Owen Pugh (plant and transport) Dudley north of Newcastle.
DEANB:
Dont know if International sold alot of trucks in the UK ? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Heres one from 1966.
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Just before I started with Ilkeston Haulage in the late 60s they had had a few of these as tractor units. But many, if not all American trucks of that era had no front brakes and these were no exception. Drivers, fully freighted had some problems stopping them and when one ran straight on at the bend just below their yard, they called a halt and got rid.
The driver was lucky he got stopped by the canal bank, and the canal was higher than the road at that point.
All that was left were Mandators and Highwaymen. Although I had a Mandator at first, I was lucky and got a Scammell, a no rush motor at 38 mph flat out in 6th behind (not alongside, which was why I loved it ) a 150 Gardner.
Yes Oily a Charlie Alexander Albion, and a James Hemphill tanker (they had a small number of changeover drivers at Carlisle, ) the white cabbed AEC belonged to Buchan Meat Producers from Inverurie painted white with green cab top and wings. W & J Wass from Stoke on Trent, Hewitt from Morpeth near gate, Western SMT buses and fairground folk at the top of the photo.
DEANB wrote:
Don’t know if International sold a lot of trucks in the UK ?
International Harvester actually had good sales of their trucks in the UK not long after WWII, the model known as the KB was assembled by International in the UK from CKD imports. In 1965 the factory at Doncaster now producing farm machinery, started production of the 4x2 Loadstar in rigid and tractor form. A conventional layout based on their US Paystar. Sales of the Loadstar were not huge and by 1968 International decided to call a halt to production, a cab over model had been planned but competition from the growing Euro imports and poor profits from the vehicles produced spelt the death knell. My Father drove one at Owen Pugh, they had several of these short wheelbase tippers, I found them comfortable and quiet and the International engine done the job asked, it seems a few Northeast companies bought the tippers. These models complied to UK C&U regs unlike the post WWII models. Franky.
Froggy55:
Received this morning by e-mail, a few odd British trucks.
2Fortunately, this outfit is registered in Holland but, nevertheless, being stuck behind it must have been no fun, especially on hilly roads!
1What about this small Thames 6-wheeler; is it a conversion?
0And coud this Bedford OSC be the same? Can’t see where it’s registered, ppossibly some Northern European country?
I suspect the Bedford was registered in Stockholm, Sweden. It is RHD, as were vehicles there pre-65 (I think it was), and the registration fits the Swedish pattern of the time.
The Fordson Thames would be factory built, they were sold as either the ‘Sussex’ or ‘Surrey’ depending on wether they were double drive or single. I worked on a few of the K Series Trader’s, they were pleasent to drive.
Suedehead:
What make is the lorry,2 to the right of the Dukes box van ? Looks like its got a sleeper cab
That caught my eye too. My first thought - back in the '50s some of the ministries had BMC FE or FF vans with fibreglass cabs instead of the standard steel. I think they were for easier access with long doors. London County Council also had them for delivering supplies to schools etc., saw them often when growing up in London, looks like one of those. Too bulbous and windows the wrong shape to be a TK imho.
Bernard
Suedehead:
What make is the lorry,2 to the right of the Dukes box van ? Looks like its got a sleeper cab
That caught my eye too. My first thought - back in the '50s some of the ministries had BMC FE or FF vans with fibreglass cabs instead of the standard steel. I think they were for easier access with long doors. London County Council also had them for delivering supplies to schools etc., saw them often when growing up in London, looks like one of those. Too bulbous and windows the wrong shape to be a TK imho.
Bernard
Just looked at it again and i am still none the wiser
Also, is it coupled to a drag, or close parked in front of another van ?
Suedehead:
What make is the lorry,2 to the right of the Dukes box van ? Looks like its got a sleeper cab
That will be a BMC FE Series, Southern Gas had a lot of them with cabs made by (I think) either Willenhall or Homalloy and we used to do any major engine work needed on them. Some had extensions and some didn’t.
I used to love seeing Coopers lorries ,my Dad did haulage for Coopers for many yrs and in to the Emr times too and all the places he took scrap from and to for them I can’t ever remember going to the Swindon yard .
oiltreader:
Thanks to Suedehead, DEANB and Froggy55 for the pics and Spardo for the video also all the info and craic
A 1951 Fordson Trader Sussex.
Oily
Well Walker Bros Ltd of Newburn had two of these Fords, They were D/D. They were used on a cable laying job in Newcastle, They had a frame work section where the cable drums sat in to unwind, I cant remember the Cable firm for certain but It may have been BICC IIRC somewhere on TNUK There is a photo of one at work in the Old Eldon Square in Newcastle 50/60s , Regards Larry.
Frankydobo:
DEANB wrote:
Don’t know if International sold a lot of trucks in the UK ?
International Harvester actually had good sales of their trucks in the UK not long after WWII, the model known as the KB was assembled by International in the UK from CKD imports. In 1965 the factory at Doncaster now producing farm machinery, started production of the 4x2 Loadstar in rigid and tractor form. A conventional layout based on their US Paystar. Sales of the Loadstar were not huge and by 1968 International decided to call a halt to production, a cab over model had been planned but competition from the growing Euro imports and poor profits from the vehicles produced spelt the death knell. My Father drove one at Owen Pugh, they had several of these short wheelbase tippers, I found them comfortable and quiet and the International engine done the job asked, it seems a few Northeast companies bought the tippers. These models complied to UK C&U regs unlike the post WWII models. Franky.
Intresting post Franky. I imagine that alot of American trucks were left here after the 2nd World War
as there seems to have been alot used as wreckers. That must have given the USA manufacturers a foot hold in
the UK market and that is why the sold them here in the 50’s and 60’s and 70’s i assume ?
Not really sure why the likes of Mack & White stopped selling motors here in the 1970’s. Was it due to the exchange
rate does anyone know ■■
Leyland600:
That is a great account of Macrae’s operations which I remember well due to seeing them parked up on The Sands lorry park in Carlisle and the drivers digs on London Rd where I worked at a well known crane makers premises about 300 yards further south 1957 to 62. I always fancied a job with Macrae’s when I became 21 however another driving opportunity arose with a well known haulage company here in ■■■■■■■ where I was thrown in at the deep end on a sharp learning curve firstly with a mouth organ fronted Leyland Comet then a brand new LAD cabbed Albion Clydesdale on livestock haulage. Back to the Sands and how dozens of lorries were driven off the site by Carlisle council thus signing the death knell for the numerous drivers digs landladies in Corporation Rd and London Rd etc when everyone was encouraged to go to the Truck Stop at Kingstown. The local fairground families used to winter on the site also along with Western SMT buses laying over during the day from schools and works services. Then they built a huge leisure centre which was prone to floodind as it was built on the banks of the River Eden, now just this week they have started part demolition of the building with a view of building a swimming pool and other sports facilities.
All the other Aiberdeen and Fraserburgh fish lorries also parked up on the Sands at some part of their round trips to the south six or seven different companies to be seen all with top quality wagons in their day.
Cheers, Leyland 600.
What a cracking photo that is G brings back a lot of memories.
Cheers
Oily
I’ll second that Oily,a brilliant nostalgic photo. I was trying to identify the AEC MK5 MM bottom r/h corner but there were so many tanker companies running them in those days. Last time I stayed in Carlisle were 1968,stayed on London Road and wagon parked in BRS Parcels yard,although I didn’t work for BRS.
) a 150 Gardner. 
IIRC somewhere on TNUK There is a photo of one at work in the Old Eldon Square in Newcastle 50/60s , Regards Larry.