Frankydobo:
DEANB wrote:
Don’t know if International sold a lot of trucks in the UK ?
International Harvester actually had good sales of their trucks in the UK not long after WWII, the model known as the KB was assembled by International in the UK from CKD imports. In 1965 the factory at Doncaster now producing farm machinery, started production of the 4x2 Loadstar in rigid and tractor form. A conventional layout based on their US Paystar. Sales of the Loadstar were not huge and by 1968 International decided to call a halt to production, a cab over model had been planned but competition from the growing Euro imports and poor profits from the vehicles produced spelt the death knell. My Father drove one at Owen Pugh, they had several of these short wheelbase tippers, I found them comfortable and quiet and the International engine done the job asked, it seems a few Northeast companies bought the tippers. These models complied to UK C&U regs unlike the post WWII models. Franky.
Intresting post Franky. I imagine that alot of American trucks were left here after the 2nd World War
as there seems to have been alot used as wreckers. That must have given the USA manufacturers a foot hold in
the UK market and that is why the sold them here in the 50’s and 60’s and 70’s i assume ?
Not really sure why the likes of Mack & White stopped selling motors here in the 1970’s. Was it due to the exchange
rate does anyone know ■■
It would have been about the time Packard bought Foden Dean , I don’t know the ins and outs of the American truck industry , who owned who etc but the timing seems right . No need to sell trucks here when they could buy a manufacturer .
Frankydobo:
DEANB wrote:
Don’t know if International sold a lot of trucks in the UK ?
International Harvester actually had good sales of their trucks in the UK not long after WWII, the model known as the KB was assembled by International in the UK from CKD imports. In 1965 the factory at Doncaster now producing farm machinery, started production of the 4x2 Loadstar in rigid and tractor form. A conventional layout based on their US Paystar. Sales of the Loadstar were not huge and by 1968 International decided to call a halt to production, a cab over model had been planned but competition from the growing Euro imports and poor profits from the vehicles produced spelt the death knell. My Father drove one at Owen Pugh, they had several of these short wheelbase tippers, I found them comfortable and quiet and the International engine done the job asked, it seems a few Northeast companies bought the tippers. These models complied to UK C&U regs unlike the post WWII models. Franky.
Intresting post Franky. I imagine that alot of American trucks were left here after the 2nd World War
as there seems to have been alot used as wreckers. That must have given the USA manufacturers a foot hold in
the UK market and that is why the sold them here in the 50’s and 60’s and 70’s i assume ?
Not really sure why the likes of Mack & White stopped selling motors here in the 1970’s. Was it due to the exchange
rate does anyone know ■■
Perhaps the expense of converting them to RHD was too much to allow them to be competitive? The cost of setting up a support network too?
Suedehead:
What make is the lorry,2 to the right of the Dukes box van ? Looks like its got a sleeper cab
That caught my eye too. My first thought - back in the '50s some of the ministries had BMC FE or FF vans with fibreglass cabs instead of the standard steel. I think they were for easier access with long doors. London County Council also had them for delivering supplies to schools etc., saw them often when growing up in London, looks like one of those. Too bulbous and windows the wrong shape to be a TK imho.
Bernard
Just looked at it again and i am still none the wiser
Also, is it coupled to a drag, or close parked in front of another van ?
Yep, parked in front of another van, similar colour maybe same owner.
Bernard
Suedehead:
What make is the lorry,2 to the right of the Dukes box van ? Looks like its got a sleeper cab
That will be a BMC FE Series, Southern Gas had a lot of them with cabs made by (I think) either Willenhall or Homalloy and we used to do any major engine work needed on them. Some had extensions and some didn’t.
Pete.
The GLC ones I remember had an upside down 701 grille. If some had the extended cab Pete, I take it the extended version would be a crew cab, that’d make sense on a council motor, 3 blokes to unload 1 Parcel and one to supervise!
Bernard
I used to love seeing Coopers lorries ,my Dad did haulage for Coopers for many yrs and in to the Emr times too and all the places he took scrap from and to for them I can’t ever remember going to the Swindon yard .
I am 99.9% certain that Coopers ran a totally British fleet, until they became part of EMR, big company back in the day.
I posted a couple of pics of Coopers motors a few pages back.
Suedehead:
What make is the lorry,2 to the right of the Dukes box van ? Looks like its got a sleeper cab
That will be a BMC FE Series, Southern Gas had a lot of them with cabs made by (I think) either Willenhall or Homalloy and we used to do any major engine work needed on them. Some had extensions and some didn’t.
Pete.
The GLC ones I remember had an upside down 701 grille. If some had the extended cab Pete, I take it the extended version would be a crew cab, that’d make sense on a council motor, 3 blokes to unload 1 Parcel and one to supervise!
Bernard
The Gas Boad ones had as well Bernard. The later models on the FFK chassis had the upturned grille as well but used the FFK wraparound screen. Actually they (the FFK series) were the first British truck to use a one piece wrap around screen, the early ones used to drop out and after that they had four metal tabs secured by pop rivets fitted by the factory to hold them in place.
DEANB:
Intresting post Franky. I imagine that alot of American trucks were left here after the 2nd World War
as there seems to have been alot used as wreckers. That must have given the USA manufacturers a foot hold in
the UK market and that is why the sold them here in the 50’s and 60’s and 70’s i assume ?
Not really sure why the likes of Mack & White stopped selling motors here in the 1970’s. Was it due to the exchange
rate does anyone know ■■
Perhaps the expense of converting them to RHD was too much to allow them to be competitive? The cost of setting up a support network too?
I seriously doubt that Dipster, bearing in mind the inroads Mack were making into the Australian market in the 60s. No trouble with providing RHD there. I can’t offer a credible reason myself though.
Rigsby:
It would have been about the time Packard bought Foden Dean
I think you mean Paccar (Pacific Car and Foundry?), Rigsby, my 1939 Packard looked absolutely nothing like a Foden.
DEANB:
Intresting post Franky. I imagine that alot of American trucks were left here after the 2nd World War
as there seems to have been alot used as wreckers. That must have given the USA manufacturers a foot hold in
the UK market and that is why the sold them here in the 50’s and 60’s and 70’s i assume ?
Not really sure why the likes of Mack & White stopped selling motors here in the 1970’s. Was it due to the exchange
rate does anyone know ■■
Perhaps the expense of converting them to RHD was too much to allow them to be competitive? The cost of setting up a support network too?
I seriously doubt that Dipster, bearing in mind the inroads Mack were making into the Australian market in the 60s. No trouble with providing RHD there. I can’t offer a credible reason myself though.
Rigsby:
It would have been about the time Packard bought Foden Dean
I think you mean Paccar (Pacific Car and Foundry?), Rigsby, my 1939 Packard looked absolutely nothing like a Foden.
I am pretty sure the exchange rate played a major part in their disappearance,.
I imagine that alot of American trucks were left here after the 2nd World War
