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[robroy]

Franglais:

robroy:
You say he is wrong, in an arrogant self assured way as if you actually KNOW.
Seriously mate, you are starting to believe your own hype .I may joke with you about you being a Covid consultant, but news flash mate…You Ain’t.
So by the same token can you say ‘with any honesty’ how many deaths they DID cause?
Of course you can’t, you’re just up to your neck believing and accepting everything you are told as usual.
You’ve spent the last God knows how long totally sh scared of all this,.a result of how much of your life you spend soaking up all the rhetoric true and untrue,.and all the b/s, muffled up in your [zb] ppe.
Me? I haven’t and I would like to bet I am in the same or similar state of health as you.
I’ve gone along with the injections despite one or two reservations,.that is enough for me.
What will be will be, I’ve far too much going on in MY life to bother my arseabout it anymore…I only contribute to this thread because you are beginning to annoy me now.
I’d like to bet you are still wandering around in a mask despite the rule being lifted today, to ‘‘do your bit in protecting other people’’,.I can’t speak for all of those ‘‘other people’’ but being that I am one of those’other people’s myself , I’d say you look after your own self and business,.and I’ll look after me and mine.

Again and Again and Again…the same old stuff.
If you took just a few minutes to read replies to your posts you might save yourself getting so worked up and agitated.

I am not any form of expert in Covid.
I am not any form of expert in maths.
Because I listen to maths teachers I KNOW that 2 plus 2 makes 4.
Because I listen to Covid experts I KNOW that close social mixing increases spread of infection.
Because of those experts I KNOW that extra cases means extra deaths.
If you think otherwise than that, it is a sign of your ignorance, not my arrogance.

If you are ignorant that can be due to different causes.
Maybe you have never been told the facts.
Maybe the facts have been offered to you but choose not to see them.
The first is true for all of us.
The second is reserved for the stupid.

Again, you say I am afraid.
Nonsense. I say that Covid is a serious virus.
I say that because I listen to experts.
Recognising a risk is not the same as being frightened of it.
(No Maoster, I am not a ■■■■■-wetter, obsessed as you are with that)

Can I “say with any honesty” how many deaths were caused by the parties?
No, I cant. So, guess what? "News-flash" I didnt!
Another imaginary non-thing.

Then the double speaking woffle about how you aren`t bothered about anything, but are getting upset?

Will I be still mask wearing?
I will be doing what I have been doing.
In the open, no mask.
In crowds and closed spaces, a mask.

For what it`s worth, I am quite happy to do this little thing to help protect you and your family, even if you are too uncaring to do the same for me, and others.

Aye you’re dead right, 'like you say, ‘Again and again the same old stuff’
Ie, Franglais getting his undercrackers in a twist because he can not understand how the rest of us do not share his absolute fascination with all this stuff,.and why many of us are just getting on with things the best we can while he continuously attempts to convert us ‘‘Covid infidels’’ into his way of thinking. …and he tells ME to not get worked up and agitated. …I think you’re confusing agitation with aggravation , me aggravating you aka taking the ■■■■.

I’d already established you were no genuine expert…so no need for you to concur btw.

And what waffle ?
I’m neither over concerned and certainly not upset, like I said mate your confusing stuff,.I’m merely commenting on your obsession with all this,.and I think the concencus is that it ain’t ME who’s getting worked up.

As for you continuing to wear your mask,.that does not surprise me in the slightest, crack on,.and on behalf of my family I d like to thank you for ‘‘protecting them’’
…I’m sure they will sleep soundly in their beds safe in that knowledge.

[mazzer2]

Franglais:

Mazzer2:

Franglais:

Mazzer2:
At least I know how to have a laugh don’t recall calling you a hypocrite clearly stated that I believe you will have followed all the rules 100% throughout this. Again I said he should have sorted this out and fessed up at the start and yes he has acted hypocritically never said he hadn’t, you really should read what people write.
There are plenty out there taking umbrage who will have broken the rules so hypocrites, Keir Starmer doesn’t think the PM should get a knighthood because of his behaviour a fair point and one I’d agree with yet he thinks Blair should a man whose lies have implicated the UK in over a million deaths in the Middle East and still rising should so lie about a party no knighthood, lie to parliament and involve the UK in many deaths knighthood all ok.
Spare us the crocodile tears Starmer is just using this for political capital as would any opposition party and there are bigger things to be getting on with rather than 1 or 2 year old events which in the scheme of things didn’t cause one death.

No. You are wrong.
You can take your mean and nasty “crocodile tears” comment and shove it. Many people are crying real tears, for real reasons.

The laws broken we`re laws made up to inconvenience party goers or to make wine and cake a crime.
They were there to cut down mixing of people and slow the spread of Covid. They were there to save lives.

You cannot say with any honesty that the parties "didnt cause one death". If you stop to examine that statement for one second you will see how utterly stupid it is. How can you possibly know who at those parties transmitted the virus around? You Cant!

Half a seconds thought will show that more mixing means more spread and more deaths.
Anything else is denying what the majority of us (outside of fantasy land) know as a simple truth.

Have a chat with Whispering Smith he knows a bit about fishing and he’ll tell you throw the right bait out there and you’ll always get a bite, special Franglais bait Brexit, Covid Johnson 100% succesful
Speaking of sounding ridiculous laws to make wine and cake a crime it is not illegal to eat cake or drink wine except perhaps in your world and oh how joyous that world must be
Just to add do you have the figures for the number of people who have died since attending the parties at number 10 after all you seem so sure that they were mass killing events

Bait?
You want to post on subjects that I find interesting, and they give yourself a pat on the back, when I show interest?
Wow! Small things really do please you don`t they?
Easy to see why.

You think Covid is a game for trolling?
I can`t stop that.

Do I have the figures for how many were killed by Johnsons parties? No I dont.
Neither do you. Unless you have some expert knowledge?
So your assertion that they “didn`t cause one death” is obviously false.

Carry on trolling if you want, I`ll keep on treating Covid as serious subject.

No pat on the back at all, yes plenty of things do amuse me both big and small,but please explain the easy to see why comment. Like the fact that if someone disagrees with you they are now a troll ( Jake give you that tip ?) obviously your unable to see the caricature you have become in here but yes it does provide a small amount of amusement when waiting on a boat or getting tipped

[franglais]

troll2
/trɒl,trəʊl/
Learn to pronounce
verb
carefully and systematically search an area for something.
“a group of companies trolling for partnership opportunities”
fish by trailing a baited line along behind a boat.
gerund or present participle: trolling
“we trolled for mackerel”

[mazzer2]

Franglais:
troll2
/trɒl,trəʊl/
Learn to pronounce
verb
carefully and systematically search an area for something.
“a group of companies trolling for partnership opportunities”
fish by trailing a baited line along behind a boat.
gerund or present participle: trolling
“we trolled for mackerel”

[franglais]

Mazzer2:

Franglais:
troll2
/trɒl,trəʊl/
Learn to pronounce
verb
carefully and systematically search an area for something.
“a group of companies trolling for partnership opportunities”
fish by trailing a baited line along behind a boat.
gerund or present participle: trolling
“we trolled for mackerel”

Wot?

[mazzer2]

Franglais:
Do I have the figures for how many were killed by Johnsons parties? No I dont.
Neither do you. Unless you have some expert knowledge?
So your assertion that they “didn`t cause one death” is obviously false.

If you were to step back for one second and think logically and with reason, do you not think that had someone contracted covid at one of these parties and then gone on to die, that this persons death would be the most infamous covid death in the Uk. The fact that this hasn’t happened means that it is a fairly safe assertion that no one who attended one of these parties died within 28 of attending it from covid so my assertion is not obviously false

[mazzer2]

double post

[franglais]

Mazzer2:

Franglais:
Do I have the figures for how many were killed by Johnsons parties? No I dont.
Neither do you. Unless you have some expert knowledge?
So your assertion that they “didn`t cause one death” is obviously false.

If you were to step back for one second and think logically and with reason, do you not think that had someone contracted covid at one of these parties and then gone on to die, that this persons death would be the most infamous covid death in the Uk. The fact that this hasn’t happened means that it is a fairly safe assertion that no one who attended one of these parties died within 28 of attending it from covid so my assertion is not obviously false

So, you step back for one minute and think.
I didn`t say nor suggest that only those present were likely or possible victims.

Anyone at those parties could have picked up the infection there and passed it on to a third party.

The more contacts there are, the more the virus spreads, and the more people die.
It is a simple concept.

[mazzer2]

Franglais:

Mazzer2:

Franglais:
Do I have the figures for how many were killed by Johnsons parties? No I dont.
Neither do you. Unless you have some expert knowledge?
So your assertion that they “didn`t cause one death” is obviously false.

If you were to step back for one second and think logically and with reason, do you not think that had someone contracted covid at one of these parties and then gone on to die, that this persons death would be the most infamous covid death in the Uk. The fact that this hasn’t happened means that it is a fairly safe assertion that no one who attended one of these parties died within 28 of attending it from covid so my assertion is not obviously false

So, you step back for one minute and think.
I didn`t say nor suggest that only those present were likely or possible victims.

Anyone at those parties could have picked up the infection there and passed it on to a third party.

The more contacts there are, the more the virus spreads, and the more people die.
It is a simple concept.

And do you not think it would be traced back to a contact who was at the party you know full well that had there been any infections resulting in deaths that could be traced back the parties it would have been done so. Do you not think that the likes of the Guardian and the Labour party will have gone through the lists of attendees and done their best to link any infections to the parties? So far silence so until otherwise shown it’s safe to assume that no one died as a result of these parties

[robroy]

Mazzer2:

Franglais:

Mazzer2:

Franglais:
Do I have the figures for how many were killed by Johnsons parties? No I dont.
Neither do you. Unless you have some expert knowledge?
So your assertion that they “didn`t cause one death” is obviously false.

If you were to step back for one second and think logically and with reason, do you not think that had someone contracted covid at one of these parties and then gone on to die, that this persons death would be the most infamous covid death in the Uk. The fact that this hasn’t happened means that it is a fairly safe assertion that no one who attended one of these parties died within 28 of attending it from covid so my assertion is not obviously false

So, you step back for one minute and think.
I didn`t say nor suggest that only those present were likely or possible victims.

Anyone at those parties could have picked up the infection there and passed it on to a third party.

The more contacts there are, the more the virus spreads, and the more people die.
It is a simple concept.

And do you not think it would be traced back to a contact who was at the party you know full well that had there been any infections resulting in deaths that could be traced back the parties it would have been done so. Do you not think that the likes of the Guardian and the Labour party will have gone through the lists of attendees and done their best to link any infections to the parties? So far silence so until otherwise shown it’s safe to assume that no one died as a result of these parties

I tend to agree, if the predatory press and Uncle Keir had got hold of a potential story on that,.they’d have been on it like Prince Andrew on a One Direction fan.
Could it be …shock horror …wait for it.

Nobody was infected.
We can only assume so, but Frangers will be ‘hunting for facts’ so stand by.

[franglais]

Mazzer2:
And do you not think it would be traced back to a contact who was at the party you know full well that had there been any infections resulting in deaths that could be traced back the parties it would have been done so. Do you not think that the likes of the Guardian and the Labour party will have gone through the lists of attendees and done their best to link any infections to the parties? So far silence so until otherwise shown it’s safe to assume that no one died as a result of these parties

Every victim of Covid has all of their contacts from the past month tracked?
Ridiculous.

[janos]

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[/quote]
Protest? What protest?
I have no political affiliations. None whatsoever. I speak as I find.
As for the rest of your piece it is full of flaws. Who has been in control of the government (controlling passport and driver’s licence issuance and the NHS) for the last decade? Fervent lefties?
You are not related to Carryfast are you? He often writes similarly flawed posts too.
[/quote]
C/F? That is a low blow.
NHS anti-vaxxers were protesting in London and Manc at the weekend. It is always public sector workers with their socialist worker sponsored banners protesting about something.
There are countless online blogs about the dubious impartiality of civil servants. Dominic ■■■■■■■■ mission was to destroy the power the civil service holds…is he just imagining that? More than half of public sector workers are in a union compared to about 13% in the private sector.
I bet there would not be many civil servants brave enough to state a tory affiliation in any branch of the public sector. Am surprised you are apolitical, as you have that hard faced ignorance of those on the left.

[mazzer2]

Franglais:

Mazzer2:
And do you not think it would be traced back to a contact who was at the party you know full well that had there been any infections resulting in deaths that could be traced back the parties it would have been done so. Do you not think that the likes of the Guardian and the Labour party will have gone through the lists of attendees and done their best to link any infections to the parties? So far silence so until otherwise shown it’s safe to assume that no one died as a result of these parties

Every victim of Covid has all of their contacts from the past month tracked?
Ridiculous.

Franglais you wouldn’t need to trace them all for the last month it would soon become apparent that a group of infections had one or two common links. How do you think they have tracked down the source of other outbreaks or does that science not work in Westminster?

[franglais]

Mazzer2:

Franglais:

Mazzer2:
And do you not think it would be traced back to a contact who was at the party you know full well that had there been any infections resulting in deaths that could be traced back the parties it would have been done so. Do you not think that the likes of the Guardian and the Labour party will have gone through the lists of attendees and done their best to link any infections to the parties? So far silence so until otherwise shown it’s safe to assume that no one died as a result of these parties

Every victim of Covid has all of their contacts from the past month tracked?
Ridiculous.

Franglais you wouldn’t need to trace them all for the last month it would soon become apparent that a group of infections had one or two common links. How do you think they have tracked down the source of other outbreaks or does that science not work in Westminster?

What group of infections?
And how would anyone start looking at records from that long ago?

Don`t need to track them all?
Only the relevant ones??

[franglais]

The other point is that it irresponsible behaviour.
Whether or not anyone died as a result, the actions were still selfish and risky. (And apparently illegal, but that doesn`t worry everyone)

Speed past the schools gates? Then as defense say no kids were actually killed?

[robroy]

Franglais:
The other point is that it irresponsible behaviour.
Whether or not anyone died as a result, the actions were still selfish and risky. (And apparently illegal, but that doesn`t worry everyone)

Speed past the schools gates? Then as defense say no kids were actually killed?

You’re starting to sound a bit self righteous now Frangers, ease off a bit ffs man

I’m trying to imagine you at school…the good lad who obeyed all the school rules, always handed his homework in on time, who used to grass up me and my mates at the back of the school bus.

Btw…your mega dramatic analogies you use to ram home a point kill me mate …seriously.

[dipster]

Janos:
.

Protest? What protest?
I have no political affiliations. None whatsoever. I speak as I find.
As for the rest of your piece it is full of flaws. Who has been in control of the government (controlling passport and driver’s licence issuance and the NHS) for the last decade? Fervent lefties?
You are not related to Carryfast are you? He often writes similarly flawed posts too.
[/quote]
C/F? That is a low blow.
NHS anti-vaxxers were protesting in London and Manc at the weekend. It is always public sector workers with their socialist worker sponsored banners protesting about something.
There are countless online blogs about the dubious impartiality of civil servants. Dominic ■■■■■■■■ mission was to destroy the power the civil service holds…is he just imagining that? More than half of public sector workers are in a union compared to about 13% in the private sector.
I bet there would not be many civil servants brave enough to state a tory affiliation in any branch of the public sector. Am surprised you are apolitical, as you have that hard faced ignorance of those on the left.
[/quote]
Carryfast calls me a Commie too…

[robroy]

Here’s a link for Franglais to enjoy…we all know how he likes his links.

Boris and The Beastie Boys.
Enjoy.
youtu.be/iJNu0eylAp0

[dipster]

robroy:
Here’s a link for Franglais to enjoy…we all know how he likes his links.

Boris and The Beastie Boys.
Enjoy.
youtu.be/iJNu0eylAp0

I enjoyed that. Thanks for posting.

[franglais]

Dipster:

robroy:
Here’s a link for Franglais to enjoy…we all know how he likes his links.

Boris and The Beastie Boys.
Enjoy.
youtu.be/iJNu0eylAp0

I enjoyed that. Thanks for posting.

Nice to see RR giving us a serious critique of the situation.

Nice one!